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Episode 56 · 2 years ago

#56 Val Kelly - HS French Teacher and VO Actor - BrianVee Whywework


Val Kelly is a voice actor, CEO, executive producer, Host of “Live with Squacky” Podcast, but she is also a high school French teacher and mother. With her hands full, she takes the time to share with us her passion and desire to do all that she does with kindness and determination.

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"I began my VO training in 1997 with Dan Levine from "Such a Voice." They produced my commercial demo for me - but I did not have the marketing skills to do anything with it at the time. Since getting back into the industry in 2011, I have trained with "Edge studio" in NYC and LA. They produced my Narration demo for me. I have also attended two animation VO workshops with the very talented Bob Bergen. I did Cartoon VO training with Sunday Muse for a year and I attended VO Atlanta 2014, 2015, 2016. I completed my commercial demo- produced by Roy Yokelson and am currently preparing to have my animation demo produced. My work has included character voices for “FurReal Friends" toys for "Hasbro", a few short audiobooks, a short film for “Theory Films” and both French and English children's iPhone apps and commercial work as well. I have also worked on children’s e-learning projects in both French and English.

I am also the Owner, President/CEO/Executive Producer for Mid-Atlantic Voiceover,LLC. We have an upcoming online conference taking place on November 6-8, 2020! It’s going to be a great online event with opportunities for learning, networking, VO practice, social time and fun!! I’d love to see you there!! For more info and to register today, visit www.midatlanticvo.com" (LinkedIn, 2020)

...welcome to why we work with your host Brian V. As he speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice, which would be an encouragement to us all to get up, get going on, keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now here is your host to why we work. Brian V. I'm Brian V, and this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure speaking with Val Kelly, also known as scratchy voice, for she is the CEO and executive producer of Mid Atlantic Voiceover LLC and the host of Live With Scratchy, a podcast where she interviews people from the entertainment industry. I know she has a desire and a passion for voiceover work and acting in all sorts of things in the industry, but I also know she is a teacher, so I wonder how she balances ah, career with the desire to do something. Mawr. Join me today in this conversation with Val Kelly scratchy voice. I'm Brian V, and this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure. Speaking with Val Kelly Good morning, young lady. Good morning. Thank you so much for taking the time to chat with me. I Well, I know this isn't going to be a little difficult for you because you're usually the one asking the questions. And as you just told me, this is, you know, a little bit of a reverse for you. So I thank you for coming and giving me the time to talk to you about work. Of course. Balle. Can you? I mean, can you give us a little intro of yourself? And I want to bring you back. So I don't know if you've ever been brought back in time, but just a little bit about I did a little introduction just before we have started. So they have a little idea of who you are, but maybe you'd like to fill us in a little bit better. Um, well, I am a voice actor, and I, um, started out in the industry in about 1999 and back then, I really had, you know, no idea, really what I was doing. I was just starting out and taking classes and things like that. And I ended up taking one of those, like intro to voiceover classes. It was like, you know, six weeks and and then they're like, Oh, producer demo at the end. So I was like, Oh, great, that sounds good, you know, because I didn't know any better. And so that was kind of my first intro it to the world of voice over. And then once I finally had my demo produced, which was horrible because it was like a commercial demo. After six weeks, I, um you know, I was like calling radio stations and stuff because I didn't know how toe get my voice to the right people, you know? And I remember having this conversation with somebody had a local radio station in upstate New York and he was like, Wow, he's like, you have a great voice, you know? You should totally get into animation and moved to L. A. And I was like, Oh, that sounds great. And then I just kind of like I was like, How do I do that? You know, And so that was kind of like my you know, my first interview it and I My demo sat on a shelf for like a good long time after that because I really didn't know what to do with that. I was sending it to, like, advertising agencies and, you know, not hearing anything back because it was not to the right people. And so that was kind of like where it all started. And then in 2011. So there was a lot of time in between in 2011 when, after I had my...

...second daughter, I was like, You know, I'm not getting any younger, and this is what I really want to do with my life. And I'm also not getting any not getting any younger. I wouldn't even to guess she had two daughters. I thought you were much younger than that. I mean, I could go by 1999 but you know, that being said, having two daughters you're doing well, thank you. Well, I mean, you know, it was it was a weird kind of. I mean, I think everyone has a kind of a strange transition into voiceover. However, they end up falling into it. Either, you know, are born into it, or they discovered at some point, and I was doing in college in place that I was in and things like that. But I just didn't realize that's what I was doing. And so when I when I had my second daughter, that was when I said, like, I want to pursue this for real, Like I want to put myself 100% into it and, you know, see if I can make this work. And so I went to a voice of her conference in Toronto and I met some great people, and, um, I started training. And then from there, I just you know, I started auditioning and I ended up booking my first gig, which was a short a super short audio book, which is, like, seven pages or something like that. And, uh, that was the start. And from there it just kind of took off, and I just started booking stuff. What year was just I'll come back to it. Probably. What year was that you did your first audio book? Was it still 2011 or after? Oh, no, I don't think it's 2011. I think it was. I was probably 2012. It was like a year I auditioned for like a full year before I actually, you know, booked stuff. And then when I booked it, I remember because I had gone to some animation coaching with, like, Bob Bergen in New York City. And he and I was like, Oh, my gosh, I booked this short audio book. What do I do now? You know, it was like, Okay, he's like, you got to get a I've had and you got to get this microphone And here's how you do it and get someone to teach you how to edit. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, this is crazy. I didn't expect to book it. You know that quickly because it was, you know, probably from the time I started in 2011 seriously, in training with EJ studio and then going to a conference. And I think the conference was probably 2012 and then, you know, shortly after that, maybe, like, you know, within six months of going to that conference, I both to that first audio book, and it was for like, a student, it wasn't like a huge thing, you know, seven pages, and it was kind of weird. It's like, Okay and then I just remember, you know, seven pages taking a ridiculous amount of time to edit. And I was like, I don't know if I could do audio books. I don't know if I could do this, so But then after that, he started booking other stuff, like, you know, in French and in English for little, um, like, for e learning and stuff like that. I would like Thio like to get get into some of those things. But, Val, can you bring us back? So now that we know that you have a couple of Children, you've been doing this for a few years, but this being why we work, what was your very first job since? Obviously it wasn't in voiceover work. What was the very first thing you did? Maybe as a teenager that got you out of the house Thio experiment or earn a dollar? Oh, actually, I think my first job was, um, my first real job where I was getting paid. Uh, well, it could be it. It might not even be that I was speaking to someone the other day. They dove for golf balls. You know, it wasn't really job something they did a person was. I'm pretty sure maybe it wasn't the same person, but, um, puppets, they had people come over for puppets. And you know who it was. It was It was Roy...

Yockelson. Oh, that's that's how we met. That was the first, because I was think I was going to say it was him that told me that. But it was him who? He had a puppet. He was sick one day, and his mom and dad bought him a puppet. And then him and his friends there is another friend that had one, and then they would have shows and charge 10 cents a show. So but those are the things that get people working and starting, right? So, yeah, it may be a paid job or something else that you were doing. Yeah, they first job, um, was at a an amusement park called Jubilee Park. It was like a really small one in North Carolina, and I was the person who ran like the little kiddie rides and stuff like that. And yeah, that was my first ever job. I don't know if it really opened any voiceover windows for me, but it was interesting. At least we'll know I did a couple of jobs like that, too. Small amusement parks you could do. I mean, I did, um, the Ferris wheel. And there's bumper cars, I think, and are even racing cars that we had and water slides. It was all fun, Sort of, um, entertainment. It's It's in the entertainment industry. However. You wanna look at it? Yeah, that's true, right? You're there to entertain people. So why did you get that job, And how old were you? I don't think you mentioned, um I think I was 19 because I was in college, and, um, I just I wanted to get a job just to bring in some extra money and, you know, summer off of college, So yeah, and I was like, Where can I work? And we were living in Wilmington, North Carolina at the time. And so my mom was like, Well, aren't you apply there, and I was like, Okay, so yeah, so that's a little bit older than most people that I have experienced or interviewing in North America. 19. So was there any other things that you got out of the house to do? besides going to school? I mean, I'm playing with friends. Oh, um, well, I did like, baby sitting, you know, And in high school, when I was probably, like, 13 when I started doing that, So yeah, so I know that you are, Ah, high school French teacher. So when did your aptitude for French develop, or was it something that someone in your family or do you have a French background? When did that start to become important to you? Um, well, in high school, all of my friends were taking French and I was taking Spanish. I started taking Spanish and, like, third grade and, um, in ninth grade, I remember being on the bus with my friends, and they were, like, all speaking French, They were learning. I was like, What is that? I love that, you know, I love the way that sounds. And so that was when they first kind of thought Oh, I wanna I wanna take French as well. So I took French and Spanish all through high school, and it turns out which I didn't know earlier in my life. But it turns out that my well, I know that my bad side of the family was from northern Italy, but I didn't know was that my grandfather spoke both French and Italian. And so when he lived with us for a little while when I was little, um, he spoke both French and Italian to me. So that's how I kind of developed my ear for the language and just love it. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. So when eso if you're taking both languages and obviously English as well in high school, when did you decide you wanted? I think you took a certificate in French studies after high school. Or was that part of your high school degree? And then you went into your bachelor's and master's. I went thio. My undergraduate studies were a little Ryan University, and I got my bachelor's degree in French. But I lived in France while I was in undergraduate studies and the south of France, and so I kind of did six months there and came back to the U. S. And...

...then did another six months in France and then came back again because I loved it so much. And then I went after and got my master's degree in French so That's a great experience. You're gonna learn the language, Thio. I mean, I'm living in South Korea and I've failed. If I was to take a test, I would be so horrible. And I've been here long enough, so I have no excuse. But I rely heavily on my dear wife. So in speaking, French, learning French, taking into the point where you're fluent at what point did you think I want to be a teacher, or was that the path you want to take? Um, it actually wasn't the path that I wanted to take. Um, when I was in college, I was getting towards my senior year and I came back and I was in the in the US for my whole senior year instead of being in France. And my French professor, who was my advisor, said, Well, what are you gonna you know? Like what? What's your plan? What you going to do with this? And I was like, I don't know, speak French. And he was like, Okay, that's not a job. So was this. Was this the rial thought right? I have a degree now I can speak French. Yeah, I don't know what I thought I was going to do with it. Yeah, I don't think I really, you know, like I don't think I'd never thought going into it. I want to be a French teacher. That wasn't my initial thought. But then when he said like you have to make a decision, you have to either go international business or you can go education. And he's like, Let's get really your math skills are not great. So international businesses, like off the table for you. And I was like, Okay, well, yes, you teacher, that I wish I had an adviser like that. I don't recall eso when at least cutting it straight, right? Like, Okay, you're probably not good at this. And here's the path that you might want to follow. He was the best. Yeah, he was really looking out for me. And And then what was great was that when I started doing student teaching and I got into the education program, Then I ended up being really good at it. So I love kids, and it was just something that came naturally to me. And I quickly decided that I don't wanna, you know, teach elementary or middle school. Those were, like, rolled out really fast, and then high school just was like a natural thing for me. So it was really easy to make that transition. And I love it, you know. That's why I still do both, because I don't really want to give it up because I love teaching. So you have been teaching for a number of years now, So I mean being a teacher and even for you, knowing that you were in baby sitting and you worked as an amusement park operator like there's a path being cut out for you. Where did the voice I mean, I know you're also known a scratchy voice. If no one has noticed by this point, it's something for your live show. It's live with scratchy. When did that flourish? Or when did people start to notice? When did you kind of take it as your own? And was that a difficult process? I would say it started really young, that whole squeaky voice thing because it started when I was really little. My dad and I always like, played little games like improv games. I didn't know where improv at the time and that helped me Thio develop into, you know, having all these characters and having all these voices. But I didn't really know what the time that that was something I was going to pursue. But I always loved acting like in college. I took acting classes, and after college I did some other acting, you know, some theater and stuff like that. And e think the moment when squeaky voice really came into play was, you know, when I really decided to say I'm going...

...to make voice over a big part of my life and I wanted to be something I am able to dio. And so, um, because my dad passed away in 2009 I wanted to kind of honor him by having the whole squeaky voice thing be a name of my show. So that's why I call it Live was wacky because I figured he would, you know, beat wherever he is in heaven. You know, I figured he would I feel proud of me. So that was something got inspired from my dad. Sorry to hear that. I also lost my mom this year and started my podcast because of work and how much he works. It was quite interesting. So along the way, you're So you're saying you didn't even, you know, take the persona of scratchy voice fully, even as your soon it, um, until 2011. E mean you did in two 1009. But you really Not even before. I mean, I think that, like I said, it was always something that was there, and I just was developing, You know, that part of my life. But I just didn't know how to fully develop it. And so once I finally figured out how to put myself 100% into it, and it really kind of started to flourish, and then I'd say, probably, I don't know, 2016 or so I think, was when I first started. Life was wacky on YouTube. And then just recently, in the last year in the last few months since the pandemic started, I took it to an audio only format just because I got ah, lot of people saying like we love your videos. But like we wanted, we just want to listen to it in the car wherever we wanted it in a better format. So that's when I enlisted the help of Uncle Roy to help me produce it. So So your voice is unique, you know that. And obviously, you're you're playing off of it to your using it for your job, for voice over, and you have a live show with it. Was it ever a problem where you thought you didn't like your voice? I mean, it's unique to the point. It's very special. But was there a point when you were younger? You were You're not comfortable, and then you grew comfortable with it to like maybe people made fun of you for it. It was there any of that sort of stuff just because it is so unique? Yeah. I mean, as a kid, I remember and I never really got bullied, for it was more just like, you know, being at summer camp in winning, like the cute voice award stuff like that. I mean, that was one of, like, the moments where you go, like, Oh, maybe I have something here. And I remember getting that award at my campaign, just going like, oh, thanks, you know, And just everybody always was really complimentary. No one was ever really like making fun of it where they were. But it was like I never I don't think there were very many times when I took it like in a bad way. Just thought like This is my voice. You can take care of me that you know and just it's not going to change. So it just is what it is. And, yeah, I think it's interesting. It's well, it's interesting attitude that you have for people who are listening in that if there's something about them that they find is unique, you know, embrace it because it is who you are and is something special. When I first heard your voice, it just brought a honestly, it brought a huge smile to my face and like, I really want to talk to this young lady E. I mean, it's but it's not like it's I don't know what's the definition of swanky like swanky to me? I don't know what is the definition of scratching. I think this wacky part just because, like my dad and I used to play these games where I would be like the baby duck and he would be like a fox and he'd be chasing or whatever and like those were our game. So, like he would...

...call me Swag. And so it always had something to do with ducks. And the thing is that it really ended up. You asked how it developed? Well, my voice gets really scratchy in the morning because I have bad allergies, like seasonal allergies. So that's where the schooI key part of it came from. I just think of it as, like, scratchy kind of sometimes. Yeah, yeah, I would say it's more on the cute side, right? Like this quack is like, kind of a negative to me. I mean, I don't think I've ever heard the word but scratchy, you know, quack e or something like a mixture of the But it's like it's a cute sound, but not so squeaky I wouldn't say. I mean, maybe in the really early morning in the hay fever season, you might say differently, but eso as you're you're now in your career. Now you have as a full time French teacher and you're pursuing. So how do you now find your gigs? And how hard is the pursuit one. To balance out your full time teaching position with pursuing your long term desires and gold Thio really get into some voiceover work. E mean, I think I try to balance it pretty well. Like I you know, I have a couple of agents now, and so they send me, you know, auditions and I do those whenever I can and ended up booking a couple of really big toys for Hasbro over the summer. So that was great. And so that I mean, it's I would say, you know, stuff doesn't come along as frequently as it does for people doing other genres, a voiceover. But I'm also kind of particular about what I auditioned for, because I really want to do the work that I want to dio. You know, I want to do things that are character based, and it really wanted. I'm not. I'm not saying I wouldn't do a commercial, you know, But I don't do as much. Commercial work is. Maybe some other people do, because my voice is very particular and because it's it's not something that I can easily adapt Yuhas for first, like commercials where they want the voice to not be high pitched. You know, it's just my voice is high pitched so I can't. I can lower it a bit, but I can't make it go super low. I always sound young, so that kind of limits me and what I could do. But, I mean, I think I I try to find a good balance between the two. I mean, French teaching branch obviously. Now we're teaching all online. So that actually has allowed me to do a bit more with my voice over stuff being home all the time. I can, you know, run into my studio, do a quick audition, go back, teach a class. And so in that respect, it's been good. You know what does ah day look like in when you have a gig or you're you know, you're teaching a class you can run off. But what does it look like? What does the process You even mentioned? How difficult you didn't know it was when you first did the book where you had to edit for that seven pages of ah, student. What does the process look like for you? I guess even now with having an agent. But how hard is that process or what does it look like, um, I think the process of of seeking work is still very difficult. You know, even with agents, it's still a process of what's actually, because I don't think agents Ah, lot of times agents are not Onley sending, you know, they're not going like, Oh, this is a perfect audition for vow. We're going an incentive to her. You know, it's like this is a perfect audition for whoever wants to audition for it. And so it's, ah, lot less of them fine tuning and saying, We're going toe send you You know all of this stuff that's perfect for your voice. So it's still a...

...process of kind of waiting through the auditions. And then, you know, if I book something, then I just have to arrange my schedule to make it work, you know, and in the summer obviously have a lot of flexibility. So I was lucky that when they booked those things for Heisbourg over the summer that I was able to just do it whenever they needed me, because I I'm not teaching in the summer, but otherwise it's It's tricky. I have to plan my schedule around it, you know? Are you doing all of the editing like, you know, post production work for the commercial. Are you going into there their buildings or how does how does that work? Um, usually, no. Usually, if it's like if it's a toy that I'm booking, which is more ah, lot of what I book. Um um, they have like it will have, like the engineer on the call, and they'll have the toy creator or creators on the call, and then they'll be directing live. And then I record on my end, and then I send them all of the raw files. And then the engineer takes what he needs from it and does all the editing. So luckily for that, I don't have to do the editing at all. I just have Thio do the performance, thinking about the performance. What, and you've got this question many times, but the satisfaction Where is the peak satisfaction? You get out of doing voice over work, especially thinking of people, and I've seen on linked and there's lots of voice over. There's lots of competition for you, as you are kind of alluding to with with having a manager who's like whoever wants this they can have it. So where where does this lie with you and in understanding how difficult it is or how it would be or the satisfaction someone would get? What is? What brings you that satisfaction? Is it the final product? Is it just doing the work? I mean, I love doing the work. So when I book something, it's like, you know, I love I love the performance part of it. I love getting I'm I'm actually like a very method actor, like I get super into it. And then sometimes it's hard for me to come out of it, which is funny, because when it's a toy, it's like, you know, if I'm looking like a cat or something and I'm coming out of my studio and I'm like, you know, my family is like, What is wrong with you? Like I'm sorry. I just spent one full hour like recording. Yeah, I was in purse, so e, I have to come out of my character. They're like, Okay, that's where, but now they're used to it. But yeah, it's I think the performance itself is really what makes me happy. And then, of course, what's really cool with toys in particular is just seeing the finished product, you know, And going into the store and showing my kids like this is me. This is me, you know, like, and at first I thought it was crazy. But then, you know, after a little bit of time and seeing how Maney different ones there have been it's like, Oh, that's pretty cool, Mom. That they're still using your Yeah. Was for that kitty toy seven years later. You know, as a voiceover actor, actually, even as a French teacher, because you're a teacher and teachers don't always get the respect that maybe we deserve, as I'm a teacher as well. No, either. Or what would you like someone to understand about you, Val Kelly, the person to what it is you're trying. I mean, you obviously you have a family is well, so being a teacher is a full time job. But you're also pursuing something on the side as well. Which, you know, given the work, you would probably do many hours a week if if it was presented to you, what would you like people to understand about you and the work that you do so they can have a better appreciation for the person behind the microphone or behind the...

...desk. Oh, I think, um, well, I'm just a really kind person. Like everything I dio. I always I'm thinking of how it's going to affect other people with my students. I'm always concerned about, you know, Are they doing well in the class or the understanding or they not being entertained? But I think especially in this virtual format that were in teaching on Zoom has really been challenging because I'm not used Thio having the restrictions of, like sitting there instead of, you know, moving around the classroom and interacting in person with my students. So I think, you know, and then I just I put 150% into everything I do. So I do that with my teaching, and I do it with my voice over, and I do it with my company, Mid Atlantic voiceover, which is the, you know, third component of what I do. So it's a lot to balance, but I'm always super busy, but I'm always, you know, trying to put 100% into it. What is the determination? What is that motivation that's getting you to put the 150% into your students in your work and your company and your family. I mean, I just wanted E. I've always been driven. I've always been a very driven person, and I think it's just a desire to be successful and to pursue my dreams at, you know, and to make my family proud of me to make my kids proud. Just show them that they could do whatever they want to pursue. They can make it happen. They just have to set their mind to it. You know what is a tool that you use that you couldn't do without, whether it's it's as a teacher or as a voiceover or even a company owner, a tool that you use that keeps you efficient. It could be your mind or your tongue or pen or your chalkboard. If you or white board. I guess nowadays it's probably my phone. Actually, don't think you could live without my phone. Don't tell your students. Don't tell your students, you know, right? No phone. You don't need that. When we were younger, we didn't have a phone you could do without it for five minutes and then we looked at the phone. E No, it's bad, but I'm very, very organized. And I think I would be less organized if I didn't have my phone and just my paper calendar like, you know, my agenda. Because I write everything in there and that's how I stay organized and go like, OK, this is your deadline on this and this one. You have to have this done. Yeah, so thinking of my, my, my listeners of them getting into work, Maybe you as a baby sitter or working in amusement park just starting out in your teenage years, some of them might be starting out or changing a career. I mean, I think I noticed you were You were teaching at a couple of different high schools changing, and sometimes it happens or different voiceover work. But what sort of tipped you for people getting into work or getting into a new career? Well, I think you have Thio really think about what it is that your goal is before you go into something and make sure that it's going to be a job that you really thank you will love doing because I think that if you are doing something that you don't love, it makes it a lot harder to dio. And so whether it's, you know, baby sitting your teaching or voice over, if you don't love it, it's...

...going to just make it miserable. So you have to decide that before you go into it. We really think about what are the things that you're good at? And this is something I always tell my students. It's like, Oh, what do you want to be when you get out of high school? And they're like, Oh, I think you want to do this and I think you want to do that and I'm like, That's great. You should do whatever you want to dio. But think about what you're really good at. What do you naturally, really good at? I am naturally, really good at French. I naturally have a unique voice. So let me use those things to do something with my career that's gonna come easily to me. So I don't have to go like Oh, this is such a hard job. Well, but you know, But yeah, that would be My advice is to figure out what you're really good at. And then take that and kind of veer your path in that direction of saying things. My possibilities of what I could do with it is your school of French school. Or you have the French students in French immersion per se. Um, it's just a public high school, So I have different. I teach all the French classes. Yeah, all the French classes. Is it some of them doing French immersion or it's just a record. A chosen elective. I guess it's a chosen elective. Yeah, because I know growing up from Canada, I mean, you said you went to a conference, but maybe not. That was for voiceover work, but opposed to Spanish in America. Um, the students that took French immersion tend to do better. They stand, they tend to stay at a trouble more. Or maybe just people doing two languages. I mean, there may be just generally wiser kids in the first place, but that's what I always felt like, Oh, those French immersion kids. They're just so bright. And there seem like they're right on the right track. Yeah, I think definitely I get the better students and French class. A lot of times like there, a lot of them are really determined to learn the language, and and they really love it. So I tried to make it interesting. At least speaking of interesting, how do you separate your work? And how do you keep your work Life choices in check of I mean, you're like, doing three times the work of some people, right? You have your full time teaching job, you have your business Mid Atlantic Voiceover LLC, and also you're taking on voice over work when it comes, and then you have your life and and things that you enjoy. I mean, going for a walk or watching a movie. How How do you keep those in check? Um, well, sometimes I don't Honestly, it's sometimes it's just a huge like like, what do I have to do? How am I going to get this done? Um, but I try. I mean, I try to maintain some level of balance, but it's really tough. E think during, you know, during the school year, I really try to focus as much as I can on my teaching French, because that's obviously my first priority because my students are my priority and I love that job. And then but at the same time, I have to balance it 50% with my company, Mid Atlantic voiceover, Because this year we have a conference coming up in, like, three days if we have to switch it to fully online. And so that's been just actually crazy, you know, really, really crazy process. But yeah, you ever I don't online eso that being said, I don't e don't I really don't. There's no balance, but at least you know it, right? At least you could say Yeah, you know, Nan Pa Moi, It's not me, right? E will overextended myself 100%. And at least I recognize that Well, you're extending 100 50%.

...50% over because you're working at 150%. So you mentioned your math earlier, But what is something you But you're overextending yourself nonetheless thinking back What is it? Anything that you wish you would've known now that maybe you do impart on your students and that's why it's a good message. And it just keeps on you a lot in life because, you know, if you would have known this one thing. You think something would have been a little bit different? Easier or you might not have made a mistake. Well, I think it comes down. If I was giving advice like that, I would say it really comes down to figuring out who to trust and who not to trust e think that I've made some mistakes in my life of of too easily trusting people and then, you know, getting burned in the end for that. So I would say that also applies to, you know, business as well as just, you know, personal life. But that's something really important, you know, you have to build that trust with people, and and you have to be so careful now because I think there's so many people that are not honest and and I'm a very honest person. So and because of that and because of my kindness, I think that sometimes I've gotten walked all over, and so I think that I would try to relay that message to my students and saying, just to be careful, you know this next question. I think you've actually answered it, not directly, but you're just implying it through your life. But do you put your career first or is your character first in the work that you do? Uh huh. So you defined by your character or you defined by your career Cash. That's tough, because I think my character makes up who my career is, but I think, yeah, hey, it's tough. It is tough, right? Like it Z like I am. You know, I was explaining this to someone yesterday, and I'm like, Yeah, you know, I am this job, But if I could just re title it and just change the title that I would feel a little bit better about it just, you know, But what we should be doing is saying, you know, regardless of our job, But I think this is where you know, some people feel bad that they're in a particular job and they're not this. You know what seems to be this more flu didn't hire class job. But if you're in any job and you're willing, if you're able to say that you do your job with the utmost integrity, that really is what's important, not the title that you have, right? It za temptation, right and you could be, um, one of character. But then you see someone that has a career, and then I mean, even like you're in the entertainment business, right? You know, how many things How many roles do you need before you say, You know, I finally made it or what is that benchmark that makes you say, You know, I'm fine, I'm who I wanted to be and there's a temptation. But as long as you bring your character and I think you're doing that because you're saying, you know, putting in 100 I've all I'm kind, I'm caring and I do that with my students. I do that with my work. I do that with my company, and I do that with my family. And I think that's what you're hinting at in a humble person is not going to say Well, yeah, I mean, the non ha proud person will say, I'm I'm pretty wonderful at what I do and a humble person not going to say Yeah, you know, I always put character first, but I think it's something to think about because the temptation is their toe to say who I am. Look who I am versus being humble and saying, You know what I do defines me rather than my career, right?...

How do you find? I mean, you're a teacher. Education plays a role in people's lives in the sense of my listeners, because I find there's a little push where people say education is not important. But I also know that education comes in many forms. So how do you value education? Oh, I think I mean, obviously being a teacher, I value it. E think that it's so important. Thio Have an education Thio. Make sure that my Children have a good education and then also to provide education for my students and, um, mhm. I was thinking, um, no, I was thinking a moment ago when you said about you got a French degree, but I could speak French at the time. It wasn't as you thought. You know, I could get something out of it, but I didn't. You didn't know the true value in it at the time, and sometimes people are in education or their informal education, and they're taking things that they're not quite certain about or they change them. And it's not until later you've realized the value or sometimes people drop out completely and do something completely different. But the idea of even if it's formal or, you know, in your work and voiceover, as you said when you first started to learn to edit and all this sort of stuff, you went to conferences, but you needed to learn this whole thing, that it wasn't a formal education. It was, you know, grinding it out right there and then because this is something you wanted to pursue and that education is just a valuable Well, yeah, definitely. I think education and voiceover is so essential. I think that that's definitely one thing that people really need to understand, especially if they're just starting out. Is that you can't really ever stop with the education You're never like done. You know, I'm still learning new editing skills after all this time. I mean, Uncle Roy is my like I don't know what I would do without him, because he literally has saved me so many times on adding and stuff and just he, you know, produces my podcast for me and helps with the final mixing and mastering and all of that. But in addition to that. Just, you know, going to conferences and going Thio coaching sessions. And there's always something to learn with it. And I think that that's so important because some people have this attitude. And I was talking about this the other day in an interview I was doing with someone for my show, and I was saying how important I thought it was. And she was like, Yeah, because some people do have that attitude of like, Oh, I've reached this level in my career So I don't need to take classes anymore And it's like, Okay, but actually you probably should, you know, because there's always something new to learn, and then the industry is always changing. Yeah, we mentioned Uncle Roy. Yoko's in a couple of times. That's how I got connected with you. And he just said, You know, many wonderful things about you and some other talented voice over people that he's worked with. And I think he produced your demo. Is that correct? Yeah, he did it just like he's in the know and he's very helpful. As you mentioned Val Kelly, Is there anything else you'd like to say? Especially for listeners? encouragement because now you know, with 2020 there's a lot of people that lose jobs. They're not certain of their jobs like you. They have a passion to do something else. And maybe they need a little encouragement to get over that hump to give it a try and not sit on the laurels or people who think I don't need any education. Um, but it's just a...

...word of encouragement for people who might be a little distraught in their work. Of course. Well, I think you just can't give up. You have to just push through no matter what. I mean, When I when I started Mid Atlantic voice over, it was literally me going. I'm I'm going to start my own company and my family thought it was completely nuts and like, What are you doing? It's that determination. You have to have that drive and that determination to push forward and go. I can do whatever I set my mind to doing, especially now, because we're living in uncertain times and, you know, and we hear that from everybody, but it's really true. We don't know what's gonna happen, and I think that you just have Thio do your best to stay positive no matter what, find whatever there is positive in whatever situation. So that's really hello. I move through my life going like Oh my gosh, I'm overwhelmed. What? Ideo And then I go Okay, like, take a deep breath, figure out what you absolutely have to do on your list and then move through your list and get it all done and and then just, you know, take a deep breath and before with a positive attitude Yeah, you're right. With uncertain times are uncertain in the best of times and and having that attitude. And I believe that you do have that attitude. It's It's commendable. Thank you. Eyes, Val Kelly, where can people reach you or how can they get in contact with you? You do have that conference coming up. I believe as well coming up next week. Yeah, I dio s Oh, well, they can connect with me on any of my social media platforms. Squeaky voice. So that's Instagram Twitter. And then I'm also on Facebook and LinkedIn as Val Kelly and then, um or admit Atlantic video that's my other handle or at life was lucky for my for my podcast and theme in Atlantic Voice of her conference. Many Naval 2020 is coming up this week in like three days. Press on and yeah, coming online. Voiceover conference. Correct. Yeah, yeah, right. So we have pre conference. We have one pre conference session on the fifth at night and then a pre conference happier on the fifth at night as well after that. And then the main event starts on the sixth, and it's the 6th 7th needs. So it's three full days of Jim packed sessions that Air Interactive and I worked really hard to make sure that the sessions will be interactive and fun, even though they're online, and that it's not the same as in person. But I think it's gonna be great. We have some great guest speakers lined up like Eric Bauza and Mark Scott and Uncle Roy just J. Michael Collins and so many people. So it's gonna be really great. I'm excited and I'm nervous for it, but it should be good. I'm sure you are. Well, you're a teacher, so I'm sure you're well prepped. Yes, you are ready to go, and I'm sure you will do? Just great. I was listening to someone today about fear and just using that fear. Nervousness as as just that fire. I mean, what was it? Fire can be damaging, or we can use it for cooking. But in the same sentence, It's fear, right? We use that fear. We could be afraid. Or we can use it to drive us to do what we want to do. And your passion is in voiceover work, and I'm sure this will go off without a hitch. Val Kelly, I have one more question for you. And that is why do you work? Why don't work? Because I love it. E Love it. Enough answer for me. Yeah. Perfect. Val Kelly, I thank you for the time and enjoy the rest of your day.

And I hope the most success on this up and coming conference that is on Lee a few days away. And all of your other work, even as a teacher and as a mom. Thank you so much. Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, follow and share with others so they to be encouraged in their work. E hope that you have yourself a productive, joyful day in your work.

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