WhyWeWork BrianVee
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Episode 23 · 1 year ago

#22 Vadim Davydov Brand Political Public Relations Business Consulting

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Vadim takes us on a journey from Russian to America through his work and life experiences. He went from loading vegetables to being a highly sought after Brand Consultant as he helps individuals shine through to his or her true self. Based out of Tampa, Florida, Vadim is a photography professional with a goal to help re-wire our thinking of ourselves.    

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Welcome to why we work with your hostin Brian Ven as he speaks to people like you from all over the world, as wetogether dive deeper into our motivations struggles, joys, seeminglymissteps warnings and advice, which will be anencouragement to us all to get uget going and keep on workingworking sbutworking is good. Now, here's your Housbnd to why we were crindmeat is abriandyour. Why we workwith Mister Badim Davidov good day find sir. I Gus I' think very much more invitingme for this forecasting. He I would love to Shure it's my pleasure. It's mypleasure and you and I had the pleasure of speaking last week and I mentionedthere, but I this is our recording. We met on and through Lingcon, and I thinkthat is a great place for people who are in business, whatever theirbusiness may be, to make the connections necessary to help yourbusiness grow or just to learn something fsome professionaldevelopment, and it's just M it's a great resource for me, and I think I amgrateful to it for having met you. Thank you me too, and I'm agree withyou about Lindy and Lindian is huge, and for many years Lindin was just likea risima place where you, even it stays right now in stereotypesin minds of people that git place for your resumen n when you're looking fora job, but when you're already looking for a job, it's too late, yeahabsolutelyth should be your personal brand development platform. Where you develop it, whileyou worn and then when you need new job, you already develop something thatpeople know you and you itwill be very easy to find a job thereyou you should promote it. 'cause I've never heard it promote it like that. Iwas always hesitant an I was like. AH, should I put my reside on there,because if someone sees it might mean that M, I need a job when I alreadyhave a job right, but it's you're right, you're, building your brand y. u youshould put your face every day there yeah at least because people see thisvideos with your thoughts with a story. People wofwine Biwe, met, H meeting. I meanour offline circle about maybe three hundred people Max Mhm, some people.They have five hundred yeah, but the online you have like unlimited H, eyebals whoe, able to see you every day, and this gives you credibility and also,if you ah talking about certain topic, I give you authority and then, when youbuild this authority, people know you are professionaly in this area and the they will recommend you. They will hireyou. I mean it's like open up a whole bunch of opportunities, people travelaround the world and speaking th. They never achieve this resolvedlingian. You make a good point, because if you're on facebook or instagram andyou're talking about a certain topic, you're not usually gaining credibilitythere right in the name way, you'regainingcredibility in Lingtoln, Righe people say: Oh, this he's becoming aspecialist or he's, as you said pro developing professionally versus justsaying something to your friends on facebook. It may not be perceived asyou're a professional on that or that you have the knowledge to speak uponthat. But if you're in a group and say in Lingcton, you have this. This H, this network that you're working withand you're helping one another where facebook and and instogramg the othesthey have a certain certain purpose, a good purpose, but it's just it's not asfine tuned as it is in Lingcon. I find yes, I agree, but also lingin beautialflinging is you can find and you can reach almost anyone in professionalworld like from the highest level of executives. You can, you canengage with them and it's not that hard, how people think and uh on social meit's more like et's say, is the grammar or whizbook it's just more noi therelingin it's less noisy a right now, forit, it's good there! It'Stoyea,because you start getting all this...

...automation, requests, automation, messages and you start feeling thatreattachment, like you start feel like buts, is gunning to you. You know yeah,but it's still huge and the also, if you think about your personal brand,you don't have to pitch on Linding your product or your service or yourbusiness. If you start pitching it's like everywhere everywhere else, whenyou go to network in event, if you start like H, this is what we do. Thisis how we sill this is whywe best like nobody, don't care about you or yourproduct at this moment. But if you tell your story, people start cear about youand it's not supposed to be related to your job on leading. They will go in toyour profile and they will read what exactly you do and then it will, as youwil associate with this profession and because of highlevel of trust, because you just show up every day. You remember like in allthese, when you Weav only like fifteen channels on TV and one person show up-and we know this person very well, like full country, know this person,everybody trust this person o much. We like without dot. We will invite to ourhouse yeah at the forefront of their mind, 'cause they alversee him. Letthem say with our keys and all this stuff, so this kindof a similar idea.You have a circle that you can build. Wo you'll see you often and h,especially if you ill include stories of your day of your life and you canconvert the stories and mix it with your experience in yourjob field. So this is how you became an expert and authority. So it's powerful.That's that's good advice. I didn't even think of it. Th I've only beenusing it a couple of weeks. I mean I e I've seen some benefits to it, but Ihaven't begun to dive into the use of it. He proper use of it. So vedam goahead, lost one. The gaegs no go ahead EAS and I hope it will help a lot ofpeople only. So, of course, you have to figure out your target audience onlinging like make a list of people who would like to work with or a trucklet's Sa, if you do, if Youare videographer, for example, and youneedd some marketing or social media specialist incompanies, so director of marketing, for example, you can make a list ofthose people, then you can visit their pages and see on linding whatactivities they have and what pe? What kind of people do follow no startfollow their influences and when you follow their influencers comend and like those posts, because your targetaligence will be there in Thiseu in the commens. So this way you became on thesame level with them in UANGICH inside the common first, that's like Gat, anall this Porson in the commens, and then you can send derect missage inpullbury. How much? How much time do you spend doing that or had have youspeen doing that? If you spend about like thirty minutes daily in one year, you can uh, you cangenerate like you. If your goal is generate lit,you can generate a lot of kids by posting one video you can generate onetwo leads for your business or in torks of connections. You can easilygain about ten thousand connections in one year. Real engaging connections, but you haveto post you have to like you have to talk people you have to take theirstory, include to your story and ask questions and to create tdisengagementconversation through the same topic. Very good, that's good! That's verygood INC information, but I speaking of professional, you are a professional,but before we get into how you became the professional thatyou are, can you bring is back to your first job, so my fer job was with my parents and they used to havea fruit and vegetable,a whole sale distribution. And where was this where, where are youoriginally from Budy, I'm from Sain Pizerop, a Russian San? He, where areyou now, I'm in Temple Florida there's a bigjump right. There yeah we actually jumped from Sait Pete Russia to sit petFlorida. My first daughter Sheis from sit IDRUHAN. Second, one from SaingPEFOR. That's funny! Isn't it...

...so back in the vegetable store? How?How did that come about? And what did you do there? So I was a loader and it was like abarhouse that Lok Av, a bunch of fout and vegetables. Did your parents have afarm or e you guys? No, so we basically used to live about.Maybe forty fifty miles away or fifty kilonders no silinters from San Peop,but it still was a same peat. It was like a resort area. Yeah and uh, it's wer close to Fengland A, and there is a lot of places whereolder people or even younger people they go and they rest. I don't know howts called like a resort gin, resolt MHM and for all theseresorts, my parents, they deliver infortant vegetables and they Turchese in the whole sale in the same peet, andthen they deliver intothe. How long did your parents have that business over ten years? I don't in to be honest with you right now. Istart forgetting, like the Sonzenger n o yeah, but I remember for a long timeI M for a long time. My hops me once I camer again start o no problem, so my parents, they h my mom. She used to work for store as acashier and then she becam a the store manager, the mainstore Managor, thenother storemenger. It was very stressful. Work Anshe gained a lot ofexperience at that time and my father used to work for a military for likeyears. I don't remember how Manyaowat so and then he started working for oneguy who seving coting vegetables and he gained this experience, and then theydecided to open their own business. What is was a great decision and it waslike a jumped nowhere. At that time you had just open. You topen read how to do mooking or like often started fromscratch. Yeah my father. He attends some college for business and HEU. He learnabout business before to open it. What I was great- and I think that's, whywas part of his success as well, so nowege is the key and the informationis teg. What was your motivation t to get that job ore? You Ere, you justtold okay, it's time to come, help the business, the family business. No, myparents never was like that. Okay, it was only my decision because one summerwe hang out with friends and then, when you' used to it, it's too much y. u yougot bored, then you, you feel that you maybe need some moneyto buy sneakers. How old were you when you startedworking for them? I think it was about twelve very good howohow di. How long did you last withyour parents working for them? I work big and FOURH, maybe till sixteen orSeventeen, and that brings you into high school yeah and, like I, I used to work on lone summer, because when it's winter you can't work andvegetables legally and you can work because you covea school, like Youyou,have to go to the school. What is whare did that take you in in your lifejourney of work. What did you do either next or something else notable I'm Iyourse. I learned TAT different professions like it's yourchoice. What you want to be because we used to cover like an office where my parents used to see andtherere like a whole Aris froting vegetables with loaders and the those was clear. Your choice where you wantto be HM and h because to be a Lorer, you don't have to think a lot. IT'SKINDAF! Even pleasurable. You know you just work physically and then you justhang out and you talk twith people. You know it's Kinda cool yeah at some point,but then, if were of eall beworking, they always do something you know, andwhen you look at it, you like what is the better for you so and you decided...

...yeah. I think I learned that there is a choice and then my first jobwhen I fully find job by myself, H like without ananybody, a couple of friends,cannetions Yeah Patorees, and she invite me to work there because shesaid they help Yor grow so quickly, so shoejumped from one position to another. They promote yeah quickly, so I gothere and I choose to Ma, because there was a lot of options too, like be aloader to be a controller, to be like a lot of things and also you can sit inthe office and they choose to be in the office. The feller at the other SIDEYEApillery, was lower than to be a loader, for example, but it still was like ideato grow on the leater of the career leaden, but it was the most boring job in mylife. No on lackd her yeah, it's hard. It's actually hard tounderstand people like security people whoare sitting and do nothing it's hardlike, especially if you on the mindset of meditating like to discover yourselfand all the stuff. Yes, you can see and meditate and like be in peace and allthis stuff. But at that age I didn't have them as a little extra a littleextra time, tha more than you needed, and there was no h smartphones, theneither so yeah we're unable to I I used to have like a computer, butthere was no intern connection, so also I used to cover like a tape. It was alot of tape with logger or this company, the when I, when I left this job, I tak uplike this big, the Bal ehe kept maing a ball. I just make I oll it was my ar Wltis j. You shouldhavetook a picture of that and hung that in front of your computer, that would havebeen nice or make another one or something yeah. How long did you lastthere maybe about three months, Acor HormanBeca- and I learned so. I learned my my profession I near this well and then soquickly. I get at the point when it's nothing to learn, that's it and then Istart get bored and UH. I ask, I mean I', I'm lying, I'm not asked forpromotions ECAUSE. I was young and I was shy and I I can say I I always poutthat people should see how far e'm working and this is misty. And but you didn'task for promotion. You were helping people woul watchya. Yes, I did Gorflike everything is perfect. I nail the process. Everything was past. Everybodyenjoy to work with me and, like everything was Grat, but then what Irealized. I killed this position and they like. Okay. This is done what kind of positions we have to feel,but they not consider me yet because they didn't fire New People.You know they. They just feel they just removed the Spain that theyused to Havp ye and you always have to ast you think wou. You would have putyourself out there more yes, bt Am wouleveson would have promoted channelleadard yeah, not only perfect job help you to be higher. It's Asin will helpyou behire, not only on the corporate everywhere yeah to get notice an a goodexample. Wies home o like homeless people. They don't sell products, theydon't solv services, they don't they basically do nothing when they ask formoney and they get this money and only one thing they do, they askthey ask and people getto USK. You know, andthey get rejected a lot too, but they keep asking yes, they don't give up.Yocan do o Thegis Bostn Yeh, and I did't know that, like I just starteddiscovering the world n the like, I have no idea about to be once with him.The also was shy, and I did know that I have to go and ask because I thoughtmaybe I will look miserable. Maybe they thin that I'm asking, because I'm not good enough.I mean it's a lot of thaughts. What's going on that, you just reject on theon the like very deplayl idea of going in. Ask Yeah there's theadage that we have it's. It never hurts to ask, and I I live. I live by it,never hurts it hurts not to ask or...

...right or you'll, never know. If youdon't ask, I still learning this. It's I've not been shy to ask anyoneanything but now, like th you're saying with Lington okay, I can do that. Youknow T, that's Y. U know, I can do it in this, this realm or this m capacity,but so to do it everywhere, wherever you want to se when you get at thepoint of like a good trust with another person that you're trying to attractit's, you will feel that it's time to ask and Dont Esetat, you know and ask,and if you get rejected, that's why you need the least nlike this rejected it's one morecloser to yes and also the a Rg m. The people who are beingasked have been asked before. So it's not new to them right. They expect tobe asked right. If it's your boss and you're going to say, Hey, I wa, youknow, I don't know if you've seen what I've been doing, but I'm looking atthat new promotion coming up. It's not like no one has ever asked him beforeright, so they're used to it too, and people have asked in the worst of waysso yeah. No, that's really good. That's really good advice, and they also willgive you an information of what you have to do to accomplish, because ifyou never ask you don't know, and you can go to another direction and assumethat you will get promoted because of this this and this but Theye, probablynot looking for it. I mean you can be this way, but now you start playingthese chances Y h. So why playing chischiances go and ask what exactlyEOG ACHEVE and get it? That's it the next step. So it's great and you lastYoul last it three months there yes and remember how I so they give you like an biggerfactoris. They give you least things that you have to go to each person andmark that you didn't harm them or, like BN, the Camp Company, or something likethat. So I go to t everybody. Everybody was like. Why are you leaving Blah BlahBlah and in my pats I was like Yeh, it's kind of playing a victim ofcircumstances and I thought, like they didn't promote me now. I have to leaveMHM and UH. This is funny when I seep with the executive and the CAS likewhat's going on, why you're leaving- and I like, I can't even say that, because they as she care me, it'sbecause you didn't hire me yeah. I was like how you guys don't understand and you're thinking. They are going toread your mind. Yes and I'm like come on and- and I said that and I'm likeyou guys, didn't promote me they're like. Why? Should we promose you? Wehad no idea, yes, and it was good experience, but I belief Istill didn't get at that point that I don't have to play this meetum and theycame to ask. I still didn't get even after rejection like I still believedthat they didn't get it so, but you were playing the victim.Yes, a lot of I I didn't know them, but a lot of people do that now I it's like,especially if they don't open their mouth and S. Well, they didn't th Y. Igot looked over well did they know? Did they know that you wanted the promotion?Did you do everything you could do di? Have you been you know what I likeabout? Some jobs is on a resume. They'll. Ask You: What have you donesince your last nomasters degree, your bachelor degree, what professionaldevelopment have you done since then? So is they're looking for people whoare active right and then you're like well, I haven't been doing anything.I've just been waiting for this promotion. That's not the right way togo about it year, correat and the. I think the another thing I thus when I just started it was not likethat. But later I met a lot of people who work for other companies and theybelieve truly that they invist themselves to others. They not think this way that unvist inyour knowledge, you we your time in yourself. Even you work fortecoporation, because even if you will work for your own company, you will bestill unemployed and it's the same. You will gain some experience and as soonas you reach at the level when you're not able to gain anything, you have toask or then you have to make this decision, but it's very important toknow that, like you work for yourself for selfdevelopment, as you said, and people not supposed to waiting when somebodywill tell you like okay now, it's your...

...next step h going Dun this, because you always willhave gaps without learning. If you will work wayly, if you're wait over otherpeople to tell you what to do. Yes, so like be your own boss, even if you work for a company and make this company betterby making them better, you will make your sell better and you gain this circle. People around you like, don'treject it like be with them tobete. You know Yeu forma little community in your work, and everyone knows that they're investinginto it because people care yeah and it all you'll be good for you anyti likeanyway, if you ter open your Os. If you live in another company, the keep thisgood relationship and good experience in the job. It's always well get goodfor you. If you start reject things, it will be not good for you. So where did alleg o Edam so after this job M, so you're seventeen still seventeeneighteen yeh, maybe eighteen and Catl Oar, waslike a eighteen, maybe nineteen, I I remember some gaps when I didn't workyeah so also I at eighteen and seventeen and eighteenI go to work for Nutwork I go to university. Okay, whyt didYoumile, I cave Lik h, so the the FEG is that's pretty young, though seventeento be going off to university. Yeah we've finished the school at. We haveeleven grades and I think IAS finished school at Seventeen, okay and then next year you go to theUNNORSE. What did you take? What were you so in Russia? Everybody ask you. I mean everywherethey ask you a m wit to do okay, yeah Eah, we wan to be what do you want tobe when you grow up it's the most incorrect question. Woriyou cannot askthis. You can you have to ask like what would you like to try to decide whatyou want to do? MHM, that's Wa, Hatter, Yeah Yeah! If you didn't try thingslike how you can know that, just by looking and adult they teach pids likeyou have to look at others and decide what you want to do, gitlike fullywrong. You have to decide by yourself byexperience, Yeah Yeah. Look at that job. Does it look? Okay, Yeh? How discorseen you ill explain, seou talking about the guys drinking earlier. Look at thatguy over there he's are, is Batt over there. Does that look good yeah? Itlooks pretty good. Okay go ahead, so inthe I las my thought. So what did you take? Yes, I take h Um, my parents, ask melike what do you want to do? Blah Blah Blah? And I said I don't know- and wefound a way, how to find like some university, where you can the easestone Howi, but because we have like a you know in Russia. If you havesomebody who work in your stat means that your son will have better placethere or something like that, for example, but th becove a friendtherand we get there but h, then it's not go well, and I I finish it.Fourth, after four year I left and the after your cirs year start work mhm as well D. I work for nights on the beginning. Iwork in Tuxta might have seen yes, so you said it didn't go well. You wentthrough the four years or you stopped after your first year or you're doing amixture of both and then that didn't work out T was Livi mixtere yeah, itwas a mixture and there also you have to pay for inyours, and atthis age I already taking care of my own expenses. You know, and I try tomake for UNYERSITY, to be honest with you. I think this was a waste of mytime in certain Angeli GN, one friendsand likeexperience, but overall, if inside me I always was like noninterprenerial, plaoff Havtengon, something like business related more if you're talking about degree or evenstay astay away, just build your own...

...businessl find tementar and all thbut.I didn't know that so then I work for Myou did some odd jobsthroughout that yeah. So then I work for at night SI wor at some period of time,maybe about three months. Maybe five months, I don't remember exactly. Iworked in two jobs at the same moment. So at night I worked. Maybe threenights a week on the Tuxi in five days a week one day job for like it was aplumbing and like I vidit some warm floor, installation yeah, I was. Iwas a taxi driver P for a period of time too nice itthoit's Topi. It's notit's not an easy job and I respect taxi drivers. Every time I get into aEnglish speaking taxi or in Canada, wire speaking thi it, you know how'syour day going because yous know it's day by day. Right know how many hours did you get in howyou know you know it's rough now, also like a Friday sador, the all this drunkpeople who trying to absolutely obuse, you kill your right run off on you or Puke in yourcar or in the funny part, because I work like a plumber, you had a rent range always cos to. Please give me my money. Yes and Bek have stories when peopleactually kil other, like a taxi driver, settle likea, very small yeah. We havemake keep coming. Oh, that's! Okay, that's! Okay! Kids are welcomed NCON. This is p Istid Soroman. So how old is? How old is youryoungest and your oldest think? You said you have youngest three and theoldest EIG. This is this is the youngest. So I remember the time when I drive taxiat night and it was like a early morning colve. I always most of thetime I work at nights because Er was no traffic. An I used to have another job,the first being. I remember that I always was broke iven.I work for two jobs, never know it could happen. I wenblefun. You know it was poinless to work on two jobs, but it was my experience.Nobody told me like you have to go there to go there, my father. He helpedme to this plumbing job because n he knew the guy who round this company. SoI gained some experience about like a physical, wor, yeah Amsoi, not only like a to be a loader because water, it's waydifferent part Loder, you it's not even it's like it's different than to be aflonger in English. We say it's mindless, it's a mindless job. You needmuscles, you need to work, hire just put your head down and do your work.Plumbing would be there's nor to it. We can do things,you know you messed up and it's like it's different and it was harder. FoYeah, it's a hard job too. I remember my coworkers. They was olderlike way older than me, and I used to smoke cigarettes. They used to smoketoo, and we the the thing is. We didn't have a lunch breake from eight in the morning. No lakesjust keep working, no breaks like if e on' smoke O my smoke turns ootfew timesI remember I I tried to chose that and they brought like a food for everybody.I an my Jess Ra Y. I I C like every day. You know I have to prefer, for at leastI can do one sandwich for myself: Ut Ino, oe Oy every day right, so I triedthey eat it. We did this breaks, but as soon as I start bringing they stopeating. Stup like take a brace and Fu jes smoke. Darts an English mark, Yosay smoke. Darts smoke, cigarettes, smokein, eigau yeah, especially the jobwas not houly paid. It was like a by job yeah. That's why Ho got to get aDan to is pardon, and sometimes it was very hard. I remember time when I wakeup in the morning and I'm truly fully don't want to go there because it' Chool is actually in theoter in the morning yeah. You can do things like, especially if it's like asmall feeting yeah can t with blue globs. You have to take off your glovesand do it Nak I mean all my fingers was...

...with Scots is. Was it was nuc one of the hardest job in my life tobance with him there, but I have number one hard job. Whatwas even harder than being a plumber? So to be on a F farmer and h? I went on UPHASIA, I have a friend there and we did. We did rent Jedski and when Judzkiseason is done, my friend he used to have like a plantation of Tangerines,okay and UH. We like all THI PN wherewa. Where wasthis? It was close to Georgia. You know, Oi was going to say you guys gottangerines up there in Russia, it's go, it gets cold up there. I don't know wedon't have nuin an O n. We BECR you guys got a big country must have bee because, like almost every season closeto Chinese in every oder, yeah yeah, that's realy warm down, th yeah, yeahyeah. So, even right now the the Habaraksthey have a lot of meetings because they disagree with the government btbecause they way far way, ingovernment we're too far from the government forHus to care about us and the government send them their own governor from Moscow and they put injail their own governor. So he'll be a big deal there. I guess Yess, but that was a hard job dealing withthe tangarines and the Jetskis House Ol. So indangering work! U Here when you prepare and when you haveall the tools, when you have everything easier rigt there, it was clear made like a Laborlike manual labor, you put the long, sho short or like a sweeter yep onyourself. You put this inteside the pents and the trees, the on the mounts. So it's like this. If you on on a mountain ere on an angleyeah, it's like a big angle, but also it's like a steps, itax step oninstepit trees and you start going like from. I don't remember from top to theBottommore, I don't remember exactly, but then one day and you cult first, you puld all thestanderings Insidewe ornges in your shirts, yeah Yo, like a you, get pregnant, look like a big bear. You took like abig large bags and you put this inside the bagsand then on go gn claim to the tree and you took the oranges. Also. You have toknow what kind of oranges you have to be because they have to be ready. Theyhave to be like orange and th h. Then you put all this bags on each level and when you're done,you pick up the legs and you bring these bags to the top igoes on the top.You have a roll and you have the car where you can put it and drink to thisstore to the market. Thet's, worse, you have to bring the bags up the hill, notye. Yes- and I remember it clearly when I on my knees, not able to o herry them anymore, andit was so hard pizzically and mentally tuned the when it's h getting darker you, youhave to watch your eyes because it's a lot of spikes from the trees, thebranches yeah. Yes, you can keit your right, so Yo have to go like this. Withthis Bak I mean it was hard man. This is the t e hardest thing. I ever done.Takan aother job yeah. Another job was in Russia afterwards, when I have hard time to find any job N, Iapply for like management positions, nd like a lot of different jobs, salespositions and the I I found the job was on the bigBarthhouse and it was like a you know like Amazon or Walmart. Theyhave centers were where they bring all thestuff, and then they bring it to other distribution, centrs or warehouse. It was distribution center of LIKEA forwhullfood store wrwn, and there was a shift from etm to e Tam,...

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...get a skill that I want. I get someSkillan novelge on Youtube on Internet, about different topics like psychologyphilosophy and, like I discover world this way as well,yeah yeah, I didn't never have thought about likeI want to be a successful in career. I knew that I wils have a business andthings were in your mind, a little bit short term. You're like I just need toget a job. Do some work. You weren't thinking a little bit more forward. Yes,at one time and my my parents, they just I reattach myself from my parents interms of like Dena, decide what they want to do. They offer me like whut,say my father he'd tell me like this is the thing you can try and then, likeyou, let me try. It must never be like you have to go this job, because it's agood job o long going away. He was happy when I work for Anyjob, so so what what did you do? Next? Iknow just from speaking to you before that you went into the military how long before you wentin there miltry. I jump like right after this job after okay, okay,the I start getting a lot of knowledge and UH. I believe if I wilt not go tothe military, I my open, my own Brocke brokerage F form, because I I get thewhole idea of like what they are doing, how to do it. I start getting evenpeople N, but I work on my private with them. Someie ye customers yeah not toclients, but there was a my form. It was like a two brothers whoround this firm. It was like a small one and I I was very close with them.We worked together very hard and we was very efficient and UH. Sometimes I canmake all paperwork in two hours, because I have e relationship as thecustom person. Like a Movi Zon Orson D, You can regiser quickly y with allother persons. I have like a personal relationship and they can do it in twohours when regular person can do it in two days. US You had an advantage, yes advantageonly by realasociation yeah, I can bring likesome Kek, for it was not my like the people who I work with. Theynever give me money for this Ki. They never tell me like. You, have to go andbring thiskip this lady to make your job easier or faster, to ask make moremoney. I de way you did business by myself. Yes- and I I just I just feel like. If I have this alwayscontact with any person, I want NTO make thiscontact like a pleasurable.It's not about even job like Ery, an to come to somebody and say hey. How areyou today like what's going on an by the way this car? Can you do it? PERSICLeker plits know it's funny because in Korean culture, it's you always comewith a gift m right. It's Al Like I didn't grow upthat way. Maybe people did, and I just didn't- give bring gifts but like an itbleeds over into business as well. You're, always bringing a gift, you're,always doing something. It's it's. Unfortunately, I think it becomesexpected. Yeah people bring this Idecreete stetyp n.They trying to take advantage. They do it not geniun. We are good IANS, onethings, not even corruption. In my opinion, Yep. No, I like the the basicpremise. The basic idea of it is you know, bringing something 'cause. It'snice not slipping over into expectation yeah, especially right now it happeneda lot with cashiers in the stores when people go to in the store and theybuying something they feel tha cashier. It's like just a robot who take yourstuff, be big, pink, tat, MHM by Titi Bike Theo. H, I mean I always trying totalk with them. Acknowledge yeah engagement, because Ihave point of contact right now. I Al e won have earn something like experience, Botthis their life ori a smile, I mean something he has bu. I agree. I agreethey dol not feel lonely, because I think our job is kinda lonely, becauseyou see all these people you're, not receivino feedback, and you just startapplying on yourself that you maybe not attractive for them. You're, notinterest M A yes. I know it's all true. It's it's...

...acknowledging the people that you seeon a regular basis. 'cause, not all people acknowledge them. Do you remember, because the Russiamilitaryis mandatory, correct Yewere, you doing this other job and youreceived a letter. How did you know that it was your time to go o you remember that or I e Iwas abouttwenty, two or twenty three years at this time? Maybe twenty two? I don'tremember exactly but MHM. I already pass about three or four years whenit's supposed to go. Okay got eteen, Okay News. You start receiving lator SuSil tem, so you were getting. You were just running different, but hesaid I don't know. I don't know it nos not my cose to okay ohow did you feel about getting thatfirst letter you mean when I was seventeen rella, everybody aware esame area here it happens all the time.Then you go to this place where theyre check, yourhealth and baste upon whatyou want to show Kinda uh you either you're eligible or not, but if you'renot allegible on the first, like a point, they will make sure thatyou will be elligible. They will send you a bunch of doctors that you'll tellyou that come on you're, healthy man and the. How was that experience was that year or two years how? How howlong do ago, your army was one year, okay, Itisn'tthe greatest time ever. No, I feel like I'. I've been in jail. Yeah, IT'S NOT UM! It's not that bad in the blickup. You know you still have water. Youstill have you can brush your teeth. You can eat, you. Can freedomly gosometime insive! Your please imn that distribution job looked prettygood, then didn't it. It wast different, you knowthei, wouldsay everybody who ever Bein in jail when you look at the door or in thewindow like a small window, depends what kind of jail you have and if youstart thinking about like okay, I'm I'm the meating right now and m not able to use my life as I won't, and some peopleput me here and H if it start raising up in in yourself that you startgetting crazy. You know when you start like. No, I don't want to be here,newsapedejecting, that's why it's important to accept. Ok, I'm in jailright now, and I know the rules they not. Let mego anywhere. They ask me, do things that I have to do if I start to refusethings it it will be like harder for me tolive here depends of the fing, whatever it's better, to accept anyway, mhm ansituation you are and in army. I thought for, like I fiht with myselfabout this being theme. You know I'm like no waythis is so si like this person cannot say me this younow th. This person can attach me like that.This person cannot keep me like that. You know and you'll like always, refuseit and you fight and the this is the purpose of the army to break it.Braklyan wake throug his yers and they didn't break it in me because I still fight, but rightnow I believe it's better to not fight like it's better to let it go andaccept and Enpoy, because a lot of guys a lot of they earn some experience a lot of them.They enjoy. They like this playing with these tongs and like Pang with guns andstuff he ye aother friend of this ees and some of them yes and they enjoy itbecause they not reject. I was fully rejecteve, so you have you, have theoption then, to stay in the military or exit after your first year? No, yes, so first Yearis Mondatory andthen the they trying to attract you to be in the army and UH. Then they becomenice to you, yeah kind of on the end of this year. You alreadyknow the rules, the Horst, I think it's Reala like any job or thin wife whenyou get in the environment that you're not used to you, Caino confuse and youdon't know what to expect and you're...

...afraid. Everything like I remember whenI you had to put like with here. You have to put new color like a collar inside the collar MHM.Every day you have to pot like Youre, a Se Asin strong yeah, it's always clean and whine yeah, and you have a certain amount of movementsthat you have to do. MHMAND it's like crazy, big thing. You have, I mean it's,it's crazy in my opinion, but some people they put plastic cover, orer, ands, always look white and I remember on the beginning, I waslaid down in the bed at night and I'm trying to do it because I didn't have atime to do it before it was very doul because I don't knowhow to so. I don't know how iminut was Touh like all this litle simple Pillo,details, e h and when you don't know your schedule very well, when your bodynot used to have the schedule. This is theo part. This is so uncomfortableadjusting adjusting. So when did you because you said you werein Tampa, how long did it? When did you start thinking about going to theUnited States? I mean the certain circumstances that happenwith our businesses and black are people who in charge of government the I always was like a rebel even inRussia and and refused the the point of view, the Russian Gavrent distake andpretty aware what kind of people now in the government and h Iwal always waslike a opposite o mhm and H, but it was not leav me to Leaveu in the at some point the circumstances happene that we haveto live like wis, old, family and BS. We, your wife, me me my wife. She waspregnant in the inother in hour, fel Pe, so you wanted to leave,but you were not allowed to leave. No, we were allowed to leave, but wedidntforce. I till some events happening with US and Thehin I.Why did you want to leave wh? What was so? Was it just? You wanted to go tothe United States again, I didn't thought about to leave like it was not in the plan. Oh, so you,you were encouraged to go cyes CORRIC, I'm not! I don't want to go deep. Yeah Yeah YeahYeah, but you were encouraged to go so you found yourself. Where did you goinitially, so we go straight. To do. Sinki came ririt right there, yeah llike we of a flight. It was like a New York Tempe. So if you didn't have a plan, what was the quick plan that you made so grikplen was to find some place tolive here and I found craiglist here found on craiglist byaccident. I found Russian lady that she rent your place and I call her and weTalkin Im agree. It was a very happy moment how long ago was this, but almost six years ago, six years agoand youwere happy, you have a thousand and fourteen okay. You are happybecause why you met this lady yeah, because it was very tough for mewithout English to find any place tohow. How was your English six years ago? What coloby really? I said this to you the other day, andthis is for anyone who speaks a second language, all props, all cutos. All encouragementshould be given to you for doing what you do to go to like me as an Englishteacher in South Korea. It's and when I go to Canada, and I see people come toCanada, who speak another language and then find themselves intermingling asmuch as they want into the culture learning the language and doing likelike thank you for doing that, because it's not easy and you're talking you're,not even talking about volunteering you're not being talked about a dream,you were told you went there, and only six years ago you went from zero wasthe finger that you held up: Zero English to I'm having a now plus thethree hours we talked the other day, four and a half five hour conversationwith you with no problem at all, so like never, never. Never never undercutyour ability, and I mean it goes for...

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...for a lot of people, it's better to seewhere they seeit, because it's comfortable when you start puling pullthem out. They start be not NI, so I wil say working with people. It's astill kindo goal to learn how to how to do it correctly. HOLITEN PEOPLEW A lot of times. We you even I know that you have to talk less aboutyourself and listen more. It's not always happen. So, but again, it's a great experience. I'mgrateful for all these people that I work with and I'm very thankful that they broughtthis experience to me. So next the idea was to build a platform where people can h get a jobwithout. Are You haten? Sorry? Are you doing this stuff by yourself, or do youhave like one partner that you're working with, or is this all on yourown? Like Theu my life, my my wife, you and your wife are just a Goodan leadingLil Chrusai, yes andth, I'm so thankful for my wife too. By the way she she was very, very supportive in termsof she taking care of kids, she taking care ofour house. She always H H, shoe work very hard. I have very good wife. I enjoy my Li, my life and my wife, andI think right now we slow down with carronwiresand be of few other potential businesses like appliance repair, forexample, and right now it's still working because people still it's essential and youstill g can go out and we learn how to generate leads. At some point. Wegenerate about two hundred fifty lithes a day and we got overfhelmed. We didn'tclose them all, but this skill allowed us to pick service industry right now injunoritits wis. Another partner right now were thinking about to do like a regenerate generation machine. What isin the protest right now, so you guys are doing a few things.You're not necessarily doing say fore. I olis good because when wewas in Russia EBEs my wife, we w used to have a fuit an vegetable store inthe clot store a it's always good to have two different like way differentthings mhm, I even for purpose. When I pick let's say photography, anmcleaning, it's like very different. Now I mostly focus my work on ficial expression, coaching onthis mental mask that people weaing and the physical musques. So do you want to talk a little bitabout your photography now? What is it? What is it? You do Um. So I I mean check out this gentleman'sUm contact information; you're, not you're,not cheap, you're, a high high sot photographer.Now I mean you've. You've made it yourprofession. I mean you're doing other things, but this is something you're,obviously very talented at and the reason why I got in contact with you isbecause someone told me you were so good at what you do. Thank you. It A had nothing to do with Umappliances or carpentry, or anything like that. They said your photographyand the advice that you do, that you give to help people express himself,the Best Yeah Bis, photography, Dis, heagshots, even Peter Harley. When Istart learning from him, the main focus was on facial expression and madepeople. Look? U engaged confident approachable when you, because it'slike your your first impression, usually people when they getphotographed or on the video they confuse, they look scary or they have social smile, MHM and other people did. They have no ideawhat effect it does for them, because you never know what opportunity youlost like. If Somebody Kep your profile or skip to work with you or contactwith you, you ill never know about it. Rad and you living and you fhin all isgood. But you didn't. You lost an opportunitybecause you weren't smiling naturally yeah, because you not provide yourpersonality to other human and not enough information or you provide wronginformation about yourself and...

...it's a very big topic when you have amask on daily base or online and you trying to felv ways but, for example,you'r trying to make your perception your own perception about yourself with exterior part, and you do you work hard on it and you think thatyou look most attractive for this at this point but uh when somebody whonever saw it before as he or image and see you in Gorson is like two differentperson. Yeah, the trust is losing like you, lose the trustbite, 'cause they'llthink it's a lior facade. Yes, it's very hard to gain trust, but it's veryeasy to lost all the ENS theare ver, easy and people lose distrust quicklyand they have no idea about it. So in my goal was I found the the colorationbetween these online presents when good headshot photographer make you laugh your body release, endorphinsendorphins, relax your muscles and then you Geniu, relax and confident at themonent like right, aftor, a good laugh for some people more. I work with people. I figure outthat for some people, even good love, not helping relax all their muscles,because the amount of tentions that they wearing on themselves is huge. The a laugh is not going to affix it. Yes,and now I start working on them to fix it, and then I meet another problem.It's a mental thing. It's a mental mask. People believe that it's they are likea lot of people who you met before they can smile, and if you get part of your personal,an that, your smile hat, you do, which I know you're doing it on purpose-looks like many people, smile right, likethat, yeah, cheese, a smile, Rit, las right,you're, trying to make expectations of others and you'R, trying to mat yourown perception about how you're supposed to react and act and likebehave. But it's usually it's wrong because you didn't study this parkright. You don't have no idea, you just made it made it up. You saw somebodysmile fake and you just ohokay. This is wort. This is Ao Mile Mercedes and hesmile with Mirk. So I want to drive narcets. Let me Mi a SMILESA. Let meremove all the people round me who was very nice to as, like your parents orsomeone's parents say hey. Do you want a job like that? Guy Go look at thatguy. Now people are looking at the guys and taking their smile ecorrect,because people influence them, but the thinkis, for example, musician or star theybecame on the top, not because he smiled with Mer. He developed this MilConde, like on the process mov his career or e childfood or whatever, buthis actions in industry in the music, an his products made him be there, andthis is wrong perception and that people like to easy ways. You know whenyou look at someone. If you think that you will look the same, you will be asuccessful as this person, so we're looking at the people who are at thepinnacle at the top with the SMIRK and we're trying to grab their smirk, useit and say: Hey, I'm like them. Yes, yes, it it's it's cool for in many places, but if you wil H goback to human behavor when we used to ah like animals or other people, that the main purpose was like a survive andeverybody want to kill US survival ofist at the paces of otherhumans to animals. When you see somebody showing teeth, they canbitenot Hos migt not be good, yes subconsciously. We read this veryquickly like quicker than the thing and then mm. We made this decision. IBOUT trust thisperson or not before we'e thought about it. When westart thinking about hit, we create excuses of our decision. We trying tomake asteri transitions soft and acceptable. So this is the problem andwe creat bunch of them for ourself on daily bases, and we CINDA acceptourselves in wrong way, an major em and then well.In turn, express it in the wrong way, yes and then, for example, you go intothe job and you don't like your...

...coworker. You Hid your bus when you'rebus yelling on you, you want to say, like Youare the Detetata, and youcannot and you press your leaves physically you're holding yourselfphysically, and this is became your muscle Mymo epecially day after day after day afterday, it's like a years of development or w.You saw a lot of people whos lying here right n when they don these slepining Yeah Mago is the pinking somewherconcentrating at ent eleven. They not presently trying too har to focus ontwo things. At the same time, andthe People d change their physicalappearance, mental perception and M. I figure out the way how to first change. First,remove these physical tensions and muscle memories and physical mask andthen work on the mentle to shift this perception about yourself and see whoyou really are and accepted and see what is real, really beautial, becausethe beauty is not like how you smile. It is not the how long your nose or Genra even it',Pretty Nice Rahe, the beautys energy, that your wifeloves. You is the point sometimes but the energy that you exchange withother humans in this world and Halyou eccept yourself. If, if I, if I think what you thinkabout my nose, it means that I will think about myselfand iill became selfish. I'm not teaking about our conversation, I'm notthinking about like what to say. I will be like all about myself and quality ofmy relationship feel belower at Valt of my life, wiull be lower, but thebiggest part if I am wearing the mask, but se smilk people who accept Mirk, who probablylike like a defense and offense defense and offence, they usually like a jorks, they e'll be around you and you canbuild this army of people who will accept your mask and you cill see tbehind your mastand Yo wil be like no. This is cool. This is war yeah. I likethis is working yeah wel after time. You Grl realize that it's not becauseit's kind, a tough. You know you kit, the top and you' like okay, I'm notlearning here any anythingelse any YEU. Let me show my face like what nexteithor they became so deeply insecure more when they became like when theyopen up people, a Whoa, whoare, Youono, mamaybe, miney change. You or maybe Idon't know something else will change you. So you lose all these people ou. Youbecame miserable because You'e not ae the kid back and you start like okay,should they be a Bak there and who? Who I really are, and you start suffering,and I mean if you get at the point ofsuffering. Maybe it's a good because you at least know that something'sgoing on acknowledging is a problem. Yeah H, lot of people, they live alltheir life wish mask and they have no idea who they are. They not enjoypeople around, because it's not their people and they waseill out of energyto Wer this mone MHM. So when you have no mask yeah and the thing is when you havemasked people who will accept your resolt mask this, this keep you they're,not accepting your mask. The goal is to remove any mask, beyourself and people who will accept you. They will stay with you forever and Y.You don't have to pretend anyothin you have to waste anergy, you have to beyou you could. It would be taxing youwould, be hard to keep the mask upand just being your normal self weyou're doing double duty, yes, and especially like a lot ofdivorceis happening because of people after like ten years when they needeLikahaon m all this floor going and then, when it's time to pay bills, theylike wait. Amin Hois this person and theylike wait a minute who is who youare La. You was different now you're so rude to me. Now you don't like me nowyou don't love me Blah Blah Blah Blah Bla and some of them they accept,because probably they have kids and they cannot change their live some ofthem. They divorce. What is probably good, chers and the th. If they don'tlearn from the first, you know these...

...people, who would divorce like four orfive souple of times. It reminds me of a student that I Ionce knew and I was helping work in a building and he was only twenty and het comes from a country that they give him a bride. So they gave him a brideand he couldn't get along with her, and he kicked her out of the House, whichmeant kicking her out of the country and bringing er sending her back home,and then his mum calls him up, and he told me this story. He said my mom saidI'm going to send you another bride, one bride. It could be her problem ifyou have a problem with this. Second one you're, the probe owyou got a newbride, though I I hope he's doing well, I wont even say the First One will beanother problem. If you have no Mak yeah, absolutely so, and that right nowpeople coming and they have it's either coming from abuse in the childwho thatwe all experienced in certain ways to be a victim. Its a big one whenyouare victim you kin, not allowe yourself to be in control, Mong thingsand people and the way the photography helped me andequipment. Helpd me with Vido and foder that your own perception, when you lookat the mirror, you look always the same things and you kind o get used to itand either you like it or don't like it doesn't matter. When someone slow you down and put you on prol inpresent, monent away from tats and capture this moment, Youe able to seeyourself true yourself and Youre, able to fielthis energy from what sitting in you, yeah y you're, very big on being in themoment right being in the the present moment. Yes, and then your brain,accepted and and brain shit in this perception, so you not no longer goingto the direction of of having a smork and being cool for example, or have this social, big smile? When youneed people, you have a this heavy perception of who you are andlike how? What e? What you experienced atthe moment when you project this beauty to others- and this is important toknow and be at least be aware- a lot of people did develop.Smorks like yesterday of a guy. He he um, Khis doublemirk depends of the situation orconversation his Mirk, either one side or another side, and when he smoked oneside, another side, then this and this nd his mouth. He lays like his climbingnd climbing a smile. Yes, if you anbeable right now, Seein the slow Monwe able to see in the a lot of pictures, all small changes and h when torsonexperienced this after the cession session, usuallytakes about four hours. Wemoving the physical tensions make muscle elasticand then, when you have no musk here, your workmen, how to Erise this beuty,this energy, how to Cag this feeling and how to are being control thispeeling. So you not only change the perception, your own perception and howpeople receive you. You also change whole experience of everything. What'sgoing on around you because Youe in control of this, I would say good moodor bed mov mhm in control. You know how it's arise and you can pull whenwhenever you need and when you, when you build this muscle, very heavy, it'sreally easy for you, like, okay, Bom. Now it's a good now I can project andnothing stops here. Let's say: Heler cane them and trum. When was election, because the letter that she clamed tobe on the top was like a pretty tough way right, ner, because she playd, Iand shes a politician, its Pretti Oul, Budist tecure in this GIS right H, butbecause amount of defence and a amount of fake e involved she developed, Hewehavy maskand when she smiled even genunely when your body lisom chemicals she's, stillnot project thistrust pordens, because it doesn't ma your eyes, doesn't mish with your mouthall these tensions. When you see tentions your body feel like somebodyholding something behind and when tramp, for example, hlike a Jorpe, he act likea Jork and she talked like a Gor. You...

...know his next step will be like a Jorkan even if you Democrat you. You Trust you more because you know what toexpect from here, because she're holding you wer ensure no idea what toexpect and unknowing creat the most scared thing in our wife when youunknow at a Grouplo area, so so yeah. I said that you were very good in whatyou do and it was expensive, but you you take someone in for the you knowhalf a day or something this is not come in. Take a couple of minutes. Takesome shots, your! What are you doing with a client yeah? I don't work anymore s like AH H, we're not doing p doing passportpubfoot hsometimes they go e, they get upset when they offer them go to CVs.Orwar at makes sense the like. I know the one cat shot photographer.He got like a better view of because he offered to go inother place anyway, butpeople lill crazy. Sometimes what is it so? You have different things going on. Youhave your hand in a bunch of differentthings, but what is most difficult about what you do on a regular basis? What is impiablethe card was on the beginning. When I did know about masks, I, when I startjust discover thes Pince, I remember my first lady when I sh she came. She was win Rey,nice boy. That must be the worst of people hine. I I'm giving you my bestsmile, sir. I comand NDAND. She was N, very big company in veririghpositionand h. The the way of people develop thisQueek in mask. Sometimes it's became their reality. The personality HertItis Weir it's very hard to pull them out from there. So when I start pulltemout, you basically make a person uncomfortable and you do things thatthey not expect, because if they expect tiy still on the tale, you have to tellthem something like Okia, ugly, sweetcart Turne his way. What did you say? Firaunow yeah,throherv, Mall Yeah, a lot of emotion d when you pulled them out. I remember this moment when I, when Iget scared I', like obs Shshe fout, about to leave maybe a fewtimes, but I thought about to. If Yo t I wa real kind of all distensions start kindo getting out.You know yeah betrowing on you, this negativity and it's came overwhelme ifyou O traid boy now, I'm okay, I know what to expect player, I mess kind ofthese people and they know that they will get upset some people- I even may be not nice, but somebody conplain that they have hardtime to Setan and stand up. So we we did like a seatand stand up a lot oftimes, so you do it on purpose. Yes, youonconpble to wo rel them and see who they are and then from there you showthem. This is Oky this issume and Theye like Wa. This is scary. I'm like E. Ijust experienced it abuswas Heri. It was hard. Believe me, I know so yeahI know it's. A wow no accepted hits part of youlike okay. I have thiscameer again, but you have to see like all seasons of few and youhave to provide all other people sipll seasons of you. So it's difficulttrying to get the true person, especially initially when they don'tknow how you work and and how you operate. So it's hard to get that trueperson out. That is a difficult part. Yes, the figure, the mask the harder to get themout and H. sometimes when it's too thick, it's very easy, but it's likeexposion and you have to ou know I I bringing to the joy. What is the joy ofthe thing that y? U You like about your job, I mean I like to help others like Ienjoyed like, for example, yesterday Hes, the Guy He's very successful, is running very successful business and when he was a child, his father, hebeat him than he was like alcoholic, and a lot of things in his life wastough, but he learned how to be in charge of your own life, MHM andmy Goas to help him...

...to leave more fulfilmed life if he willfor forgive himself, because he ready forgive his father, he worit oay GuyYeah, but Yo. He K, for example, part of F giving himself to be a victim ofcircumstances. Yeah, the all these memories that you have. Ifyou still remember of somebody beat you up, it means that you didn't forgivethem and 'r still sitting inside you and it's like our eduation and you feellike on daty basis. You tired t you exhausted and you're trying tocompensate a lot of time with alcohol or his drugs or with other stuff, butthe keyis to remove everything and be clear and then you're able to obsorbeveryyon witholt any thoughts not coming to you so in Mi Gos. If itconversation, help him to live better life, I'm enjoying what about the the? What I thought youwere going to say is the pleasure or joy when the person breaks through. Soin your session, where you have the person climbing the stairs of a grinwith a woman who, as a little hard hearted towards revealing herself, isthere a moment that you know they get it and then they get that the glow oftheir their true self is? Is that E joyable part of your Ja be like? Ah Igot it, I got it there. She is or hether he is yeah, it's not it's. First,it's not always low. Sometimes it looks ugly right. You Av to accept it, sotheir true self looks ugly yeah. Usually it's uncomfortable yeah you're, trying to like a lot of peoplethey trying to avoid true themselves 'cause their eself is some hatred orsome unresolved issues yeah. Instead of fix those issues and h make yourselfbetter at least little bit better than you was the thing that they able to belike a new person and just let this animal living inside them and uh. Butit's it's not possible. It feel always coming. That's interesting 'cause! Ididn't. I guess I didn't think that you're getting the image of the trueperson and the true person might be an ugly person like really and then you'relike this is who you are, which you just said it, but I didn't realize itthat that's what you were that was w. You were capturing you weren't, goingto capture a beautiful pitcher. All the time you were going to capture the trueperson self, which you mea come back next week. We might have a what you'relooking for, but this week we're not going to get it. No, the the goal is to get anyway fromthe first session. The think is, first, you show them that theyre, not justthat. You was wrong, but you showed another perspective, inother angle,yhemselves and then next step to take this raw material like yeare, Hek, ugly,whatever it is and show how to use it and how to project from distant pointand be beautiful anyway and en person by himself stink in front of the can-and I can just press shutter. I don't say anything I just tinter and they dofrom like fully relaxed, face and thoughts and like energy to projectthis beauty and they do it by it themselves. They lorn and Theyseie,result right away. They mage their feelings with physical things, with whatever theyshould do in order to project this love, so it's making in with their perceptionwith their new preception. So it's kind of creat new. I don't know in the in the Ology what what happened exactly in the brain,but in my brain it's like a line. It's like Neu Ane, new Pathyeah, you both createand. You know that this is yourtarget. This is what where you want to go and after session, it's not rightaway. You like became supernised and approachable, but you know the target.This is important and you know like whoyou, truly are insupyo later youwill go back to your hole path, but it's less likely because you already knowthe differen yeah. So when you see the difference, it's not joyful to be fake. You it'sjoyful, to be you and not thinking about it. When you stop thinking aboutit now, youll get in the presents, because now you thinkless DM, do youhave? Do you have a...

...a hope, a goal with your photography?Is there something that you would like to do someone you would like to meet y?U Know a show or an event or some aspiration and photography that you know is out there that you would liketo attain so with a official expression, caucioncar, a building right now, it's called FIS academy and we building officialExpression Course for people who struggling with musks and fakeness andall the stuff and later we will build the course for photographer's videographer Seol, justwho the step by step instruction, how to pull people from from the stage in contry changeperception its pretty simple steps and e teach other people how to do it soteacon able to help more people. This is kintegoal, for example, after aplastic surgery. If you have a car accident, your face scratched likeafter reconstruction, your confidence level will be on the bottom and there's a way how to h creat this heavytarget and knowing who you are and knowing, where you're going like not pay attention of physicalappearance, and then you will start ketting all these people that you arethrubbed h. They enjoy with you, no matter what is in your face, because ifyou start thinking about it, Youre not attruct. Those people mhm so is there,but is there so you just mentione this course thatyou're creating? Where can people contact you? What is the best way thatpeople can get in touch with you, whether it's Ao light experience or orphotography or they need some appliances fixed or e'll, call me andblame, but they just want to chat. That's Wy,your early nice gut it t chat with too youappreciated. You guys can find instagraments bydmphoto or Wadim Dedo for lingin or freesbythe MV v Adim, just te Da vy DovCorre, absolutely gory. Do you have only a couple morequestions for you and I really appreciate the tile again you've givenme many hours? What is your advice? You got to think right. Your story isfascinating. Everyone has a story. I think you acknowledge right. Everyonehas an interesting story and interesting past, but you, sir, have apretty interesting past thinking back of when you were a kid and you'regetting a job. You know in your parents, vegetables,shop, loading trucks, loading going into computers and traveling alittle bit around the world there, and now you are where you are, which Ithink you're pretty successful, whether individually in one of your professionsor in the few that you're doing y, you have things going well, but you knowthings like pendemics and stuff occur. How or what advice would you give topeople just starting off work that are insecure about starting? You mentionedsome things about asking not being afraid and thinking about when you wereyounger. You didn't get the job because, and you know you have a victimmentality. You know thinking about them. What advice do you have for peoplelooking for a job? Maybe some people like in this situation who are inbetween or hate their job? What advice would you give to some people and alsomaybe getting into photography or what have you, but just people looking towork? First of all, don't put yourself in jail in my okay,ISO TAL is good, but th that was not so bad, but hewen tall, I kind a similaras a physical jail, because if you telling yourself, I never beBlah Blah Blah or I will be Blah Blah Blah like. If you don't know what exactly you wantto do or you'r not sure like Yous, don't look at other people go inexperience like just right now stand up find theany ad. Ifyou have no job like find any like. First Aid, like first one apply, applya plyablyplay on Anja, go and experience different jobs. This way,you will learn what you like to do. What you don't like ABS. This way, you will learn whatpeople you would like to deal with or which one you don't youill figure outyour tird audience in your target or...

...like Tif, and it still will be not thefinal destination. By experience things you Kinda,removing everybody, you don't like. You keep what you like, and then you CEPnewwere of what you like, then from there. You pick the best what you likeand then create Miller and so on and well be continuous process. I mean youcan stop if you won't, but if, after a few years you already will be enjoywhatever you pick, so my advice is tonot. Think and do what about the the discourage same sortof advice? Probably but someone you know, I know people who have worked.They didn't like their career. They would like to switch jobs but they're they don't want to get in trouble. Theydon't want to lose their job, but they don't know what to do. Yeah th fear, Fearas huge, like youhave to decide. You have to ask in your job if you'realready working is any chance, you guys will promote me what what I can bring to the table thatyou guys able to promote Ye. Don't assume that you'e already doing likemore than you''re supposed to do, because you already do it. You know you already do enough, so I wold ask,and they tell me if they start telling you alrey the second time that it'stime or it's not the good time right now. What we will do like if you feelthat in you, Kinda spinning real they're,putting you off yes find another place, experience experience experience likeif your before thirty years old Y- U You have to experience a lot of things,don't stick with one. It's. I think it's great experience, a agreat advice, ex the most experience you can get is going to be useful foryou, the more you learn about yourself and more. You learn what you like. Whatyou don't like just by experiencthings, don't be aperfection, don't try to be like pick one job and be like a after fifteenyears. Ll Be cof this company. Before that, going experience,different companies, different industries, different UH sphing, thenyou doll know that okay, I don't want to be- I don't Wan to was. You willsave these fifteen years of your life its better to realize that right now, then, afterfifteen years, when you already there like h wasted, I like ditar yeah, Iwould even say before Youve spent the fifteen years. Excuse me: Go Wash the toilet in that business andsee if you like, the people, ijust tr start in the beginning, ratherthan waste your fifteen years, trying to get there. It's true. I have one more question foryou Vadim. Why do you work? It's a good Questionidon't know how toanswer like. I have bunch of different answers. I don't know which one isbetter. There's no better answer: they're, just likei'm painting thePicher to show why we work wide work. I think I work to MM. I don't knowwhere I work. I don't feel honestly. I don't think I work. I don't feel like I'm working mhm and I I remember feeling when I used towork and when I work and when at this time, if you aske me this question, Ican say why, because my family, I have to Arn care of my. I haveresponsibilities and Blah Blah Blah Blah. But now I think I'm not working it's just I'mliving, and this is the process Inis the process of working wor. It's only when I do work when I receive money,it's only one of the small smooth brod like part of the protess, and I can saythat it's not work anymore, because I enjoywhat I kdow. I enjoy Hel other people and H. it's. I don't feel it's it's awork, that's great answer! Budin! Thank you very kindly. You've been a greathelp and great asset and you've, given us lots of things to think about- and Iappreciate you coming on here and I do hope to talk to you again, Soa Woodm.Thank you for listening to this episode of why we werk with Bran, be sure tosubscribe and follow and share with others, so they two canencourage n.There were. I hope that you have...

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