WhyWeWork BrianVee
WhyWeWork BrianVee

Episode 114 · 1 year ago

#114 Tommy Chong - Comedian - BrianVee WhyWeWork

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Tommy Chong is an actor, writer, director, musician, and comedian.

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Welcome to why we work with your host Brian V. As he speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which will be an encouragement to us all to get up. Get going on, keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now here is your host to why we work. Brian V. I'm Brian V. And this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure. Speaking with Tommy Chong, Tommy is an actor, writer, director and comedian today. I wanna find out from him knowing that he knows the secret to comedy is timing and the pause. How can timing and the pause do us well in other areas of work and in our relationships? Join me today in my conversation with Tommy Chung. I'm Brian V, and this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure of speaking with Tommy Chong. Good day. Fine, sir. Thank you. And, uh, sunny California sunny and I'm your sunny South Korea. I think it was 20. You're from Canada. So it was like 25 here in the last couple of days, which is not bad. It could be Canadian weather, and that would be a lot worse. Fine. Sir, Would you do me a favor and tell me what industry that you're in nowadays and what it is that you're doing? Oh, the cannabis industry. Whatever. Whatever you're up to most most often well, you know Yeah, it's cannabis. I I got Chung's, uh, Tommy Chong Cannabis, Tommy Chong's Canibus and I got tummy tones uh, T shirts on Tommy John. Uh, pipes Familiar? Yes, you're you anything to do with that? E can put my name on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ISAT a wife thing. That Is that why you're in Korea? My my dear wife is Korean. I met her here my second year teaching, and I've been unable to escape ever since. Way left a couple of times suru uh, Korean speaking Korean. No, I I jokingly say I just know what I'm in trouble. That's all that Z That's quite often so I probably know more than I'm letting on. Yeah, I bet you dio I lived in Paris for almost four years and, uh, the only thing I really learned was Papa e Yeah, a little bit. No, I just know. Just pop, pop Pop. Would you do me o Only Just we probably on anglais. No Spanish All your times in l. A. You know, I gotta I'm Canadian. So I got a thing against all languages. Uh, when I was growing up, we had English. Our principal try to teach us French, and and he couldn't speak French, So I think that I'll blame it on him. Well, that's what someone once said to me is like, I speak two languages. My second language is English, but I haven't declared my first language yet. Yeah, Yeah, I'm fluent in English and and English, uh, English, American and Canadian. Both both different ones. Learning how to spell color and things like that. Mhm. Would you be Oh, favorite, Mr Chung? Sure. Would you bring us back? Bring us back. And in this podcast I know you're busy, man, and you've been on many podcasts. But this one is why we work in understanding why people do what they do. And what I like to do is is go back to people's very first job. Even if it's out of the industry, they're in now and learn the motivations of the first job and work our way through up into what you're doing now. And what keeps you going? So what would have been your very first job? Even as a teenager Preteen selling cards or bringing milk bottles, places, whatever it may have been. Well, my first job where I got paid was probably mowing lawns on Baby said no.

My first job was baby sitting. E was a baby sitter. And the thing was, I was a kid, and everybody wanted to go out, so they would say, Okay, you're staying home to watch the kids, and then when they got back, give me a few bucks, you know? So that was my first job. How How old were you then? Oh, probably 89? Yeah. Younger, maybe younger, you know? Well, we lived in the country, you know, we lived in the country. And so when you're in the country when you're eight, you're you're growing adults. Faras perm. Work goes, you know, you're carrying everything. Uh, then I got in. Then I got is interesting. Then I made friends. We moved into the city, and then, uh is this cowboy, huh? Calgary, you said, moved into the city of Calgary, Calgary were lived on the outskirts of Calgary. And that's when uh, no one had a job. E mean, there was no lines to ball because it was fields. And, uh then we moved into the city with plumbing and electricity, and then I would have a friend that he would beg me to help him with. His paper wrote, You know, Please, Please. You know, I got to collect Will be 30 below, and, you know, you gotta collect door to door, collect your 35 cents. 75 cents, you know, for the paper. And so I would help him collect, and then he would give me a few bucks for that. You know, you give me Yeah, a couple of bucks for doing that for freezing out in the cold. But, you know, what I learned is that when you grew up in the country, you don't ask how much you're going to get paid. Your very grateful if you get paid anything. But what you're what you're asked is to help somebody and eso you just help. And that's really it was the paper helped me collect. And then when he went away, he said, Will you take over my paper route? And so my second job really was delivering papers on a bicycle. It's a good perspective toe have. It's a good perspective toe Have, you know, just grateful for the job. Not well. How much is this? And calculate this and trying to figure out if it's worth your time. I never did that. And I still don't. It's my weakness. I still have a problem. Uh huh. Asking for money. I don't know. If it was, I found that if you do a good job, then they usually pay you more than than what you would expect. Then I started playing. Yeah, OK, eso hole. And then then another friend. He had a job delivery meat and he was leaving or going away or didn't want the job anymore. Asked me if I wanted it. I said yes before I knew what it waas eso I because we grew up poor uh, you know, I mean, if it wasn't for the $15 a month Children's allow it, there would been no income coming into the house into the house, you know, and my dad, You know, it was hey, worked. But he was like a truck driver. It was Chinese waiter that any but more than anything, he gambled, and so he would pay the necessities. But he wanted to keep the money in his pocket. Eso there was no and there was no planning. It was just like gamblers, you know, they just gambled, and they need their money, you know, Um, yes, I I've had a lot of jobs over the years. Did you recognize that? Did you recognize that about your dad when you were young, and then Did that motivate you at all? Or did that maybe attract you to that lifestyle? Just when you were a younger kid? No. My mother raised us basically. And like I found out that I'm native 8%. She was quarter. She was. And she was very native, like, in her ways. And she was the one that had the be real about paying bills and paying rent, and they would put on the layaway plan if they needed something. And it was always necessities. There was never anything frivolous. No, I remember moving into our house and looking around a little bungalow. It was big when I was a kid, you know? But it was It was like my mom and dad finally together because my mom...

...had spent time. He was in the army for a while that my mother was in the sanitarium for TV, and I was in the hospital and the kids were in the home and eso we Then we finally got our our little cottage with no electricity and no wood stove heat. That was their home. And I remember the walls were bare and we used to get the Star Weekly. Remember that at the starry up, the Star Weekly and the centerfold was was, uh, usually a picture of, ah, landscape or something. So I remember taking the center pulled out of the Star Weekly and Scotch, taping it to the wall so we would have a picture on the wall. You're talking about having no electricity, wood stove and I have some family in Texas, and they were a little upset over a couple of days without heat. You lived it every Canadian winter. We were warned, You know, my dad made sure, you know, we had had firewood, but it wasn't. You know that You buy, you know, the firewood we got way would find or pop mhm. There'll be a native going around dropping trees off that property. And then you had a buck, saw it, cut it to length and split it and pilot and and that's that's the kind of what we got. Or we went to construction sites and picked up to scrap would bring that home. And, uh, no, it was firewood was always, you know, way needed it, but cook to cook with and the Thio war in the house, it was the only one we had. Yeah, I remember waking up in the morning and the fire gone out and the four with floor was actually frozen, but we're cuddled in our bed, so my dad would have to get up on that here. Crunch, crunch, crunch across the floor and they even start the fire. And he got to get a fire going really fast done. And then the then the fireplace, the fire, the wood fire stove would warm up the whole house. And I remember spending countless evenings, you know, sitting by the fire carving, you know, But in the wood pile. You know, killing what be carving knives or toys? Way couldn't afford toys. There was no toy store in our life. And so we played cops and cowboys and Indians. I would carve, carve a gun, You know, a six shooter or or no, sometimes we got that for Christmas. We got a captain for Christmas on a BB gun. We have BB guns, too. And I was telling this other he was asking me about my indigenous, uh uh, inside E. Remember my brother and I when we got older, you know, 10, 11, uh, are one thing to do with throw knives into the shed into the side of the shed, throwing knife, knife throwing. I got pretty good. I got pretty good to the point. And then then my mother, actually, one Christmas, I got up really nice. Swiss nice. And I got pretty good at My brother was deadly. He was. He was marksman one time. There's a lot of mice in the fields when we're walking one time with it. And we had a nice we used to go on our own little camping trips, day day trips, you know, we're walking down this road. Most run across the road. My my brother nailed it with a Bowie knife. Like, cut it in half. Yeah, he was. He was pretty awesome. He looked me. He really looked native. He's gone. No, but he looked really, really native. And we used to climb trees. You know, that was our That was our fun thing. But as far as jobs go, then when we moved into the city, I got a job mowing lawns lady across the road. Needed a and, uh yeah, and I looked. Yeah, I went to the dentist one time back in the day when you had, uh, the dental trouble with teeth. It was It was a king. The only dinner work we ever got.

They pulled it out. Eso that's all. I remember being at the dentist one time and because way ran around Good. The, you know, the neighborhood? No, just pants. No. No shoes, no shirts. And and so I was really brown. And I remember being a dentist one time and he says I look Mexican, I guess. Hey, would you like a job? Would you like your job? Garden? You know, I'd never turned down the job. Yeah. Okay. So he gave me his address and I had to find a way to get to the bus, you know, to get go there. And then I was I was a gardener, but it was too much for me. I was too, too small, you know? S so I worked there until I got sunstroke. And then I had to quit. So So that was a job. And then, uh then I start playing music with a fiddle player across the field, and we'd play dances in that. And then I got to learn the play the guitar pretty good. How old were you when you started playing music? Because that's that's a kind of a big part of your career is. Well, I was eight when I first started playing with the fiddle player. 89 10 11. Yeah. All those years played by the fiddle player, I guess. 11. 12? Yeah. Yeah. Because then it went to Army could at 13. That's when I met another native and he was a singer. He was Elvis in person. He became an Elvis impersonator. And so we we played in the barracks Way would play Ah, and I played accordion a little bit. I took it to camp with me, but I never played. It was too shy. Uh huh. Since you're a writer, did you did you begin writing in high school or even earlier as well? Or is that something that came later in your career? Later, Way? Later. Way later. What were you thinking? What were you thinking in terms of your career in high school? Or were you just kind of wandering around trying to figure yourself out? Well, high school, I had big hopes in the beginning, You know, uh, matriculation. You know, the old matriculation where you, you know, got into university eso when I went to high school that I took the hard course, but I I couldn't do it. I And then I discovered party and and girls, and, uh, that's so much girls. But then I was playing music all through that, but with my part, not all the time. But, you know, I was I was a guy that worked, you know? I was going to tell you one time when I guess I was about 13. 14. Something that I got hired at the Lone Pine Supper Club. And they wanted me. The guy had a private party, and he hired me as a guitar player. And I said, Okay, at 14 at 14. And so I got my guitar. I think my dad, my dad drove me because he was pretty excited, you know, because he loved the music part of my life. And so when I got there, the guy had me be the bartender. 14? Yeah. It was his way of getting, ah, bartender without having Thio do the age thing. You know, eso So you play the guitar, but first your drinks and I didn't know anything about it. So I got everybody so drunk because I had no idea proportions or anything. And so everybody was drug on their ass on my dad picked me up. Wow. What happened? You were bargaining your bargaining because I never drink E right. But, you know, And then then we started. Yeah, that was my job. Always had a job. That was one thing about Canada. When you grow up, you know there's no except scene. There was always a job to do a job that we had people always needed. Somebody you know, So I always work, but I never There is only one time, you know? Well, when I quit Oh, first time I smoked pot Next year I went to quit school because and then I decided I wanted to be a musician when your guitar player. But before I could get into my guitar playing career, I worked as a Rufer. I was on a roof for a while until it was winter. And then you can't do that job anymore. I was gonna quit it. I would work with my brother making each...

...trough with tin snips. Then I worked. Then I got a job in the telephone company because I thought maybe that would be a good job toe, have you know? So we ended up digging ditches or and I had a band at the time. Oh, and before that, I got a job in a cookie factory. Uh, seeing candidate goes on unemployment office and they would send you two different jobs. And so I went to the unemployment. They sent me to the cook. They needed guys in the cookie fact. And so I learned, uh, cooking, you know, just a great work Although I made icing with a big cement mixer, big bags of sugar, they had me doing that. And then, uh oh. And then I finally got a job with the telephone company, had my name in there, and they called me. And by that time, well, then I got everybody in the band working at the cookie factory, and that was the riot. I want to do a movie, but it's like Lucille and A s. So we're doing the cookies, the whole band. I had the same both singers. Yeah, because the band were always unemployed and we had black. The light of the band, Bernie and and Tommy were black, and Dick was Indian, And so So, uh, wasn't with Dick, but was Tommy and Bernie and myself. We got a job digging ditches in the middle of winter. Were you digging the telephone poles themselves? No. No, we were laying cable, okay. And we're what you had to do because you couldn't lay it in the summer time because it was small, but like water, you know, sleuths, they call them, And so we wait till the frozen and then you chop through the frozen ice in the frozen ground, and then you lay the pipe or the cable. So I had that job until and we had to drive out of town for its. We had to ride in a panel truck and long drive going toe work, getting ready. Thio. It was like a chain gang, you know, the prison game. That's what it was like in the Foreman. He was kind of proud. He had a black crew. He felt like a Southerner thing. The only thing he was missing was the horse, you know. And so but New Year's come and we're still playing music at the time on the weekends. And he said, The the pharmacist, you know, New Year's Eve E don't know Wednesday or something. If you guys aren't here, uh, Friday or something, He's Anyway, he's. If you're not here Friday, then you're gonna be fired. But he told us a week ahead of time. Eso way do We weren't gonna be there so way. Never got a whole lot of work done in the meantime, between time to be fired anyway. Yeah, and then we got I had a team fair or a team club. I started a team club in Calgary and we started, were then we start making, you know, pretty nice money, whatever money we made. A fact, No. I was paying the band, uh, 10 2020 bucks apiece for the night, and then the breast went into the team cup was legit. I could have kept it. And when we broke up, they said, You know, what should we do with the money? And they spend it? Why keep it? But yeah, I was. And then we got kicked out of Calgary and went to Vancouver, and that's when I became a full time musician. I had one job in Calgary. I tried. Oh, when I got married, I got married. And then I tried to get a straight job. I went to the unemployment office and they gave me a job in a bakery, given out pre samples. He was trying to build up the crew, and I and I, if I had stayed, I would have probably end up being in the bakery, you know, baking bed or something. That but we'll And then before I went left Calgary, I wanted a white collar job, and so I got a I had a girlfriend in the band E. I was a connection C In Calgary, everybody works. I don't care who you are. You work. If you work, you're either working or you're you're in jail because you can't steal without getting caught. So anyway, Dick, uh, people at the sax player he got, he was really answered. Part black, tall, beautiful,...

...handsome, beautiful artist, everything. He had this job as an insurance inspector. Do you know about insurance inspectors? They're like, this is ah, company called Super Homes. And what they did, they would work for car insurance companies. And when someone but car insurance, they would come to Hooper homes for report on the guy. And we were the inspectors had to go out to the guy's house, talk to the neighbors, find out what kind of guy was or a girl and and then right filled out a report. So I got that job and it was a white collar job, and I loved it. I loved it a lot of fun. It was like a detective, you know, he got to dress nice, you know, keep playing. No digging ditches, knocking on doors. Hi. How are you doing? Say, Listen, I'm thinking of moving in this neighborhood and just want to ask you a few questions that your neighbor is he the guy that owns that car? Uh, you know, whatever it is. Oh, yeah. Now he's single, isn't he? Oh, he's married. Oh. Oh, he's married and, yeah, Is he a cool guy? You know, uh, and neighbors would you find a way and you get the neighbors talk about everybody if you said if you do it the right way. And so I got that that job. I loved that job. Until being in the music business. Tommy Mountain, the singer would, uh uh, Yeah, he was very ambitious. And so we way we wanted our own own venue, our own club, And he found driving around. He found this, uh, empty theater movie theater that had been converted into a dance. Salt Ana was in count in Vancouver, at the end of Ninth Avenue in the West End. Alma, Alma Street at one time was called the Alma theater. And, uh and so we, uh, went to the to the guy that old it, you know, told we wanted to rent it easy dad. Okay, No problem. Uh, do you want to dance? Is you need a license? So we had to go to the city to get a license and to get a license, we had to show parking, and we had to have plans, and it was a dirt parking lot. And so I drew up plans by hand with a pencil paper. Kind of just the things put a put, put the things. And Calgary being a small town, the inspectors. Oh, yeah. Okay, that that'll do it. Okay, here's your license. So and so I'm still working for Hooper homes time and eso. I'm doing that. And then we're getting ready. And so we wanted to have a big act open our club with and And Tommy Milton, the singer he was He was, like, could have been a football star. So he had that that upper echelon, as faras thinking goes, and he says, Well, let's let's get a Let's get a name, act up here. So we found around we went down to Seattle. The agents that handled everybody in the agent was very happy to get into Canada, you know? And so our first act was I continued Turner in the review, I continue to turn a really good first act. Yeah, And that was Ike and Tina. The cats, These girls, uh, and a band for $750 for one night. That's a lot for them. Yeah, but that's the whole band. Everything? Yeah. And so So we we advertised the way we always did. And you know, my little stickers and posters in that we packed that little theater tacked it, had the great night made tons of money. In fact, I was that Hooper Homes office counting my share because we just We just made the money that the rent was cheap. You know? Everything was paid for. I continue was taken care of. They got the first money, and then we made I think we made about a couple of $1000 each. Um, first thing I did was quit Hooper Homes, a Z. You're counting the money, By the way. I quit. Exactly. Just changed. Everybody changes everything. Eso then we were we thought were on a roll, you know, bringing a container. And then...

...the cops know Then we because the whole idea was to kick up and then put our own band in there and we played before I continue. And so then Okay, so I continue Cape opened the club. Then the weekend we had our band in there. Now we're back in a bit, you know, we already started, and we were good enough, you know, good rhythm and blues. Bad trouble is Oh, it was on a residential area and we brought, like, our all our dances that we brought the crazies and the drunks and the people and looking for excitement. You know, that kind of thing s so we So the neighborhood the next day, after we played neighborhoods littered with beer bottles of whiskey bottles. Oh, it was a mess. But we get called into that. The city hall, cops, everybody, they're they're having a hearing. You're going to revoke our license. And so rather than the rebooked license, Okay, we'll leave. We'll get another. We found another venue, bond. Then we found another club or empty restaurant in Chinatown. Big mistake, because we found out as long as you're in the West End, you could make a lot of money. But the minute you go to the east and That's when everybody is afraid to go down there and the people down there. They're the reason that people are afraid to go down there. They're not gonna spend a lot of money because we're too busy trying to just make a living themselves on DSO. Then then the dynamics, the change. We just got a black crowd, and, uh, it was a tough crowd. Room wasn't big enough. And so eventually way we had a close. We went broke. And then we went on the road and we booked her own own gay our own, uh, tour around Canada. And we drove around way take a bull horning go through through the town a the shades of playing that it was a little that know that the shades were playing at the No little Daddy the bachelors daddy and bachelors they're playing at at this at the the hall, the Legion hall Come on down and see is one night only. And and then and we limped around. And then we hit Kelowna. Uh, British Columbia and the regatta. We get the week. Found the hall outside of Kelowna. 25 bucks, uh, for the week. Yeah. No, it's 2025 bucks a night? Yeah. Packed it every night for a week, Packed solid. So again, Tommy and I we were the, you know, we paid the ban date the home split the rest. So we had a nice little chunk of change, and then we then we opened, uh, the teas that didn't go. And then and then I guess Tommy and I broke up. You know, we ran out of games right out against Oh, no. Then we got given a club. Yeah, given the elegant car Vancouver the other get further bank. That was that, Davy. It was turned into a gay club. But it was Davey and Brard. Is that the same place you started? Your stand up comedian? Your comedy had a different club. That was a different club. We're giving the Shanghai the elegant partner that ran for five years. We got That's where we got discovered with Motown. Then the band went to Motown. Then we broke up. Then we came back, and by that time we were given another club by these, uh, you know, clubs were in the Chinatown area and this one we turned into a topless nightclub and that's where I learned. Then when I got fired from Motown, I came back and started working in that club, the Strip club, of course, working the lights. And then that's when I come up with the idea of improvisational nightclub with with the girls as actresses and they still danced, you know, when they're two numbers the night. But we would dio improvisational comedy, and that's where I met change. And then we got fired from that gig because when it was a strictly topless, we made a ton of money. But when I turned it into a improvisational nightclub, we lost money. So from this time on your you're talking about the early 19 seventies...

...yesterday, maybe even the late sixties eso into the sixties seventies and e mean this is in when you started to take off were there times in which, even with teach or into the eighties and nineties, where you had thio go back to some of these jobs you're talking about besides being a writer director comedian, is there any times where times were tough and you had to get air? Everything was staying on that one track? No. When I had the clubs in in the topless club, in the in the theater, the club, my wife or girlfriend at the time shall be. She was a waitress and and she made all the money, and so we kind of lived off her money. And then I was married, Still married, and s Oh, my wife was supporting my first family, you know, the first family on and I was kind of, you know, she was kind of helping us, especially when teach night came to L. A. Then teach them with me and my first wife and had shall be stayed in Vancouver. And then she came out, and, uh, it was pretty pretty rough going in. Then I then my first wife kicked me out. I ended up Shelby and I ended up living in the the beach and she couldn't get a job. And so that that's when Maxine, but give me the little boost Little money here and there, you know, just to feed just to eat. But, you know, I had a Honda 90 scooter and teacher living at home. Hey, went back to his house. He's lived at home. And so for a while there we were almost while we were destitute. You know, we're broke until we kept hammering away at the open mic nights, you know, then we got to be a regular at the Troubadour. And that's when, uh, that's when we got discovered by the big record. Companies have started to get a great appreciation for comedians. Can you go through the process, especially at during that time? And you were just a couple of years before that. Just stand doing some stand up for the first time. So how did you get into into writing into stand up? What did that look like for you? Because I have seen some comedians. It's getting a joke, trying the joke, getting to jokes, trying those you're working out some some time. How is that for you? That process to you became a comedian. We were teaching when we got discovered. You know, we were like, uh, improper were comedy duel. Uh, and so we played off each other and we would, uh, work out. Actually, we wouldn't work at anything else. We would go record Way had album after album. Um, and then when she she broke up and I became a solo act E started doing solo work with Cheech E. Started doing a little mike time. I got the book, but it wasn't until I saw Dennis Miller working live. And then that Then then I realized, Hey, you know, it was one of those. He's having so much fun I want to join in. And so when I started doing my solo career, I had to start from the bottom, and being a musician really helped me. Because one thing about being a musician, every time you gotta learn the new tune, you've got to start from the bottom, you know? And so when you change your act, you got to start from the bottom, you know your horn and act till the so good and then, boom, you've got to start from the bottom. In fact, one of the reasons Steve Martin quit to stand up game was that he got tired of doing a new act. See, every time, every year he would. Steve would write a whole brand new act, and he kind of just brand out of, you know, he was trying everything and doing everything you know is that tough for you? Was that the idea of starting at the bottom of e mean, that could be kind of depressing, but okay, it's like going up a mountain down a mountain. All here's another mountain. I have to go up again. How was that knowing even some of the work that you've done hard labor work? Did you look at it as you know, I've done a lot of work in my lifetime. I conduce this again Or was it discouraging to you Any time you work as a roof for and Calgary in the wintertime? There's not another job that even comes close to being as hellish as that. I mean, hey, listen, one time...

I played a gig with Oh, this is Calgary Stampede time. We ended up with a plot bed truck. I don't know how we did it downtown. We walked around on and then we had friends of the band walk around, collect money and, uh, Tommy and I in the rest of band. But mostly Tommy and I were the leaders we had. I had a big, fat all the money in my pocket. I'm walking home now. We just play the game we put around midnight. I guess also this guy comes out of the shadows and he says, Uh, sir, can you help me? And I thought, indeed, so many or so I was sure what he needs. He says, I got this job, but I need someone to help me and again on And I said, Okay, okay, I'll help you. So at my guitar E, I had a pocketful of money and so he said, It's done in the railroad, you know, we're the gig was really next to the railroad tracks and so we didn't have to walk far. We work done. The next thing I know, we're in front of, Ah, railroad car. And he said, Isis is you know? So what's happening? He goes, I got paid Thio clean up this railroad car full of cold. It was like remnants after they had taken the thing remnants and everything had to be done by hand. Eso my Canadian kicked in. Okay, let's do it. Let's get it. I worked all night to six in the morning and we did it and then the guy tells me I haven't got paid. E can't pay you right now. In the meantime, I had apart. You are all right. You had some money, eh? So I told him. I said, Well, OK, he's But give me your address. And when I get paid, I'll bring it up to you. That's okay. So I give him the address, went home and my mother, you know, she was such a dear. She looked at me. I'm covered black. What happened to you? It's a long story. I gotta go have a bath. I went out about and about a month later the guy shows up. I was there, but he gave up. Gave my mother my mother to the money. But you know that that taught me mhm. It's called. It's a work ethic. You find that in farms especially, you know, in the country you got to do you know, Hey, you gotta cut Hage's brain about sunshine. You know, that kind of thing and someone else asked you to do something. You don't question, you do it, and then if they give you a tip or something else, and it's like, Oh, okay, that's cool. You know, that's way how we felt about music to you got paid for having so much. But that's a bonus. Go back in the day when we used to play music, we used to spend it all in Chinatown. We goto change and have a nice meal, a feast. And then, you know, so as you're you're facing that the upward battle of writing another skit again for comedy you look back to the times being a roof for or, you know, digging coal out of Ah, come on, come on. Entertaining a room full of people, especially with my my background. You know, I what? Stand up comedians get, they get a you know, we're going to third. That's really what we're doing. The audience is the therapist. Now we're going to therapy. And if they laughed or they don't laugh or whatever, you know, never had a problem with audiences because we I came out. I come out of the the shoot. No, you know, I'm a known quantity, you know? So just say my name. Boom. We had a thing. And then I got my wife involved in comedy and so we became a dual, you know, she's she would open for me, and then I would come in and do my act, you know, help her with her act, and and then, uh, and then teaching. I got back together again, and part of the deal with that shall be stays in the show. And, uh, and she stayed in the show, and eventually we went to Australia and and the guy goes, Okay, okay, We're gonna have an intermission after Shelby, because before that, she was always part of my show, you know, part, you know, kind of hovering there. And so she goes the on and she loved it. Then...

...she became a bonafide comedian on her own intermission. She did hers start middle finish, Thank you very much. And there'll be a short intermission. And she loved it. I was nervous, but she she loved it. She would have you warming up for her. Yeah, instead of yeah, instead of the other way around. And then, uh, And as you go with special in comedy, you know, you you're always looking always looking enlisted and and And the paper, you know, the news E. I mean, the thing is, if you look at everything in a comedic way, you'll never be unhappy no matter what it is. You know, just like in the Holocaust. You know, when when they were in the in the camps, I met a couple of guys, you know, that survived them, you know, and and there was a lot of humor. A lot of humor went by because that's what you had to do, you know you had. Yeah, that's exactly yet. Exactly. Yeah, I have a question about comedy, and I know I heard you say I think it's well known especially for comics is timing. And the pause is most important. Can you speak upon? I think, because you just said if you look at everything through the comedic lens, it will help you how in life, maybe with relationships and other types of work, could the pause and timing help you in that, you know, relationships with the wife I could learn to shut up, you know, even as an interview, just z hard. It's that that could be very hard being keeping your Moshe. I'm still working on it. It's very tough. It's very tough. The pause. Yeah, you know what? Like I'm taking tangle, You know, I've been trying to learn tango all my life, and finally I got YouTube and they got the best tango. Well, entangles the ponds comes with the musical Use the violins. I never knew this before. I just learned it yesterday, the piano breaking shirts. So you're walking fast, you're doing the walk, and then you come into, uh oh, the vocalist or the horns or whatever. And then there's another. You change, you change with the music. But when the violence come in and get very zoo, then you that's your paws, that you're you're signed the pause. And so so with change. What's all music with comedy, It's It's rhythm. It's rhythm, you know. And that's why a lot of comedians, the good comedians, they set you up with the rhythm. And then they break the rhythm, you see, and they it's like the banana peel. See the banana peel trip as you're walking along and said, Look unexpectedly What? So you got a rhythm boom? Then you break the rhythm and that you don't want to break the rhythm when you're playing for dance music. But when you're doing comedy, you break the rhythm and then eso you're leading people a certain way and then boom, you break the rhythm and then you get another answer, you know, and it's unexpected. And, uh uh, yeah, there's there's there's tricks, like juggling. You know, there's tricks to do it, you know, you gotta be. You gotta be very steady with it. And more than anything, with comedy, you gotta know where you're going or if you're not going anywhere, you gotta make people. I think that, you know, we're going and and really, it comes down to listening. Listen, if you're listening, a lot of people you know, especially if they're not in the business, they don't listen. They don't they don't listen. Yeah, they don't listen, and they're not aware. You know, there's a lot of times if you're not in the business, uh, if you're you know, the average guy, a lot of times you're sitting there mulling about the past or worrying about the future. You're very sound. Um, there, You know, that's the way a lot of parents, you know, the kids finding out that Aziz, your father, my father never was really there like my dad. You know, my dad, he just took everything for granted, and...

...he would come home and and were there until I started playing music. And then then I was the object of other people's on admiration. And then my dad, that's when he came run, started noticing, you know, and really appreciating me because, hey, I mean, that's my son. That's what he said, S. O. S. Oh, really? It's being aware. Yeah, it's being in the moment where Yeah, well, it's like hunting. You know, when you go hunting, whatever you got to become that you couldn't know, how did that prey thinks? You know, you got to know how they think and that's what comedians, you know, they're very sharp. They know, you know. I know I do it all the time. Now I try to guess what people do for a living, you know, just by listening toe and I try Thio. I can guess if, if people are married or single, uh, you know their status. I can I can tell because I've been studying people and I study and and and that's why everybody is so interesting to me. You know? I don't care who it is. I'll listen. Everybody's got a story. Everybody's got a story, and sometimes it's blow your mind. The guy that we're partners with, um uh JP John Paul. His story. All my God. Now I met John Paul because he's deaf in both years, and he was so many, uh, hearing aids. And there was, ah, system where you get drilled through the year. You don't have to have stepped hanging around. Anyway, it didn't work, but I got to know him on at first is just a guy death guy. Then I got Then he told me a story. Oh, my God. What a story he was in orphan. No, he was a love child. Check this out for France. His mother and his biological mother and father were lovers, but they were due to be married and she got pregnant. Ah, year before they were supposed to get married. And so they were from a very wealthy, decent family. They could not have this baby. It would blow. Their Catholics would blow everything. So she's went away. Had the baby very privately discreetly gave it to the orphanage to adopt. And now the organ age. They wanted to make sure this baby is special. So they wanted to make this baby have a nice home. So this Jewish family from L. A or looking for. They wanted a Jewish baby from, Ah, the war torn country. They wanted to do their part. Instead, they have this little Catholic baby, John Paul. And now John Paul and and during wartime, they didn't go through any of the paperwork. What? What? Cohen, The doctor. Father. He flew to Paris to the orbit, Picked up the child. John Paul the baby. No idea of, uh, background. You know, they know he was the baby because they had another Jewish baby and it died, died on him, and so they didn't want to give up the money. So they so, baby. Yeah, it was a basic switch. It isn't that a great story. It's incredible. So John Paul gets raised in this Jewish family, and he knows Soon as he gets older, he's being treated differently than the rest of the family. He is. First of all, he didn't have to go toe do synagogue because they were respecting that he was a Catholic. Even though they didn't tell John Paul No thistles. So crazy. And so then jump. All didn't know. But he you know, he got along with his brothers and sisters. You know everything is fine, you know. They're both bikes and he's down in Beverly Hills. You got to know Dean Martin's and all the kids and riding bikes and everything else. Then 18, he turns the and he's doing really good school. The other brothers doing the colon family. They're not doing that great. But John is just he's a he's a brain and he's got this energy, you know, like a good Jewish boy doing well. Aziz, 18th...

...birthday. And he gets a letter from France demanding that he appears in front of the draft board in France because he was born in France. He's a French citizen, and so they tracked him down and send him a drop. Noticed. Then his father finally told him the truth that he was adopted, but he had to go back to France. So he goes back to France on and then it was just formality. He just wanted to see him there. Okay, you can go coming back to America. They won't let him across the border. They won't let him into America because he doesn't have a passport. Remember, he got smuggled in from from France? No. So the only way he could stay here is that he has to join the armed forces now none of his brothers or Jewish brothers, and none of them. So John J. P. And JP's happy as hell because he wanted to be a pilot. So he became a pilot and he gets shot down over in Vietnam, takes a bullet in the chest. He saw combat and he's driving This cargo plane takes a bullet in the chest, the medicine that struck the mice and takes off both. His hearing takes out. Now he's got no hearing. Yes, and he's a war hero. And he's, uh, S o. He comes back, uses his G I. Bill puts himself through DePaul University, gets a degree in finance, and that becomes the president of of Wells Fargo Branch. You know, in Japan, in Japan. Oh, great, great story. And then we meet. And now he's our He's our financial. He retired from the bank in the industry, but But he genius fund, I hope you mean I've been in contact with him. He's very nice. He's very kind. Yeah, certainly is. That leads me thio your your writing career in the idea of these stories that you come across, and I know that you just say, write what you know. Is there Is there still do you still have some things you want to write yourself? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes, I dio I figured I'm gonna write because I've been watching TV, and they got these sections of people's lights and and they go in for the detail. Eso Yeah, there's sections of my life I definitely wanna put on the screen because they're there. So, uh, so incredible. You know, e I mean, I had choices, but I was always guided. I've got a guide. Uh, I've been guided all my life because being alone and in the country and the only entertainment we had was Sunday school. And so I went to Sunday school, and I was at that age were really resonated, you know? And one time the Sunday school teacher said, You know, God's everywhere. God's everywhere, you know. And so I'm walking home and at night, crisp night, you know, uh, no, no street lights in the country. And so I said, Doing so. God, if you're everywhere, where are you? I'm going to see you and I felt something kind of just raised my head up. Looked up in the sky and there's the heavens so bright The Milky way so bright I could see comments, I could see everything And I looked up. It was like, You want to see God? Yeah, there's God. And, uh, And then I started years later. I started, uh, the jazz musicians turned me on to, um T Lobsang. Grandpa was the first book I read the third eye. It was about, uh, reincarnated Englishman. That was a Tibet. He was a Tibetan monk, and he became a writer. He wrote the third eye, and because he was English, he got right English, a version of his life in Tibet, as in any revealed the secrets of our of our beach, You know, the silver cord and in the over south. And then I got into and then another I could tell you because you asked. I don't tell us until they asked. Uh, I...

...was in New York going to the gym. The were mid city Jim on 42nd Street. Walker all said, I swear to God on set, I felt something. Grab my body and turned me and it point me toward the store. And I looked up Harper Collins publishing. You know, I always taken through the door into the store, basically. And then then I'm over, you know, I'm lead right over to a counter book. There's books there. And then I felt something pushed my hand down and grabbed this book. And it was the autobiography of Joel Goldsmith, Joel s Goldsmith. Check him out. He never wrote a thing in his life, but he was recorded. Hey, would give talks. Andi was a spiritualist. Jewish raised, you know, secular or whether you raised going toe Christmas haven't signed a clause and all that stuff. And he was in the shredder business for a minute, and then he became a healer. And then he joined that Christian science reading room and and then he, his father was was actually dying a moment. He the Christian scientists, said you could heal them, and he held healed him this way back in the twenties. And he the father he went to see, went to pick up his body instead of his father's waving at the dog. Hey, I'm here, you know? Yeah. He healed his father, And then he became a like a world renowned healer and and the speaker. And he told me about Emmett Fox. And that's another healer. Uh, that I that I'm reading now e got the Emmett Fox books here now and what it is, it's one of those ask and you shall receive and eso When I went on that journey, you know, when I said I want to learn more and that's what it really waas And there was a visualization. Catherine Ponder is her name. She wrote about visualizing And I told my son just recently I was laying on the beach in Venice somewhere. Did I have the scooter? I don't think I even have the scooter. Oh, I know I did. I did. I had the scooter. Our daughter with my wife now shall be precious was a year old and she was playing in the park in the swings and down in Venice. I'm laying on the on the on a towel in the sand and I'm looking up over visualizing It will but look like a mountain. But it was the Pacific Palisades, and I visualized me driving. Now I have to scooter. I'm visualizing me driving a new car and having a house with the pool. And I'm visualizing that one day I will be beside that pool. And then the other day, I was laying beside the pool and I had a flash of me visualizing it. And you talk about time travel? Uh, that that happened 20. I don't know how many, 30 years ago, 37 years ago, and here I am. And it was like, It's the same guy. I'm the same guy. No change, no change. And this is because the world we live in, it's ours. It was promised to us all the riches within. You know, the all the glories is ours. If you have faith, and if you can visualize, visualize it. And that's how you become comedian. I remember when I first started doing comedy, I would leave the hotel room to do my set, and I would visualize myself coming back to the hotel room after the sets over, and the set was so successful and I'm coming back in, and then later that night I'd be coming back and I would remember that time putting the key, the door and I said, Oh, here I am and finish the set. And I use that quite often. You know? Now I'm almost in a euphoric state of being...

...because I guess I guess there's something even more greater things that that air coming down the pike. You know something? Something greater. You know, the next step. Whatever it is, there's something really, really Well, something really good. Well, maybe Mr Maybe Mr Chong, I'm thinking as you're talking and I've had a few experiences in my life and Onley because, as you said as because you mentioned it, I'm only mentioning it. Otherwise, I usually don't on my podcast, but I'm a Christian. So what? What do you do with with Jesus, or what do you do with Christ? What do you like? Because in that sense, if you talk about believing by faith and all the riches, all of that is more heavenly and and I don't I don't dismiss anything that you said because I believe it's probably true for you. Not only that, the rial experiences, I believe that they can happen and that they're true. But in the end, what do we do with, like, our guilt our sin and in Christ who, where the Bible says came and paid for it all. And I don't mean to admonish you or anything like that. I don't. But you were saying something greater or something. Next, I'm just a really sincere like a heartfelt What? What do you do with Christ? Well, easy. First of all, realize that Christ is not in his name. No, you're right. That's Messiah. And it is. Christ is his title Correct the Christ and and the Christ really means the Holy Spirit. That's what Christ really means. It's the Holy Spirit. Uh, that's why he could say, Listen, you know my father in heaven, many mansions, you know, because in the spirit world there is nothing but love. And that's what he was waiting to go. He was being tortured and everything else. And he said, You know, why have you forsaken me? You know, I've got enough because I know that that up there in just when he said, I can return in three days, E well, but But that's all of us. That's not just Christ. That's not just Jesus, that's all of us. And and a Z Humans and not only humans, but that's all of us living beings. Because there are. There's two of everything, you know. For every action, there's a reaction for every up you can't you can't have up without. Down. You can have right without left eso in the physical world that we're living there. Our dramas, conflicts, fights, uh, all sorts of physical things that are happening. We have to keep breathing in order to stay in the physical world. You know, we have. We have toe work at staying in the physical world and we're in the physical world. Toe learn. We're learning everything we do. We're learning the homeless guy. He's learning the rich guy. Woody Allen, the pedophile. He's learning. He's got everything, and all of a sudden he's got that burden. He's learning. We're all learning, and and so the sins what? Their sins are forgiven. They're not really sins or experiences. And in the experiences after you've had the experience, uh, be it good or bad, they disappear because they're only here. We're only here in the moment. Each moment we're here, that's when we're here. We're not here a moment ago. You know, we're here now, and we're not in front. So the idea and what happens with with With With the Christian Church with a monetized it? And that's why Jesus was really pissed off. The only time he's ever pissed off was the money changers at the temple, because he realized that that they're charging people to go to do what is free. What is just in your mind, your mind. But yet and that's what organized religions, too. And they're here for a reason to Absolutely, you know, don't give. Everything that is done is in the physical world has done for experience because in the in the spiritual world, there's no want, need or desire. There just is, and the spiritual world is filled with love. And that's why these 500,000 people that have died you don't be sad for yourself, but you don't be happy for them. That's why the slaves,...

...you know, back in the day when when someone died, they rejoice because he was free. At last. He was free. You know. He's back in the spirit world where nothing but love nothing but love. But here we're here toe learn and we're here toe suffer and we're here to learn lately. Bodybuilding. When you go to the gym, you know that way you know you don't that wait is there for a reason. Way you pick it up that way is going to make that muscle stronger, but it's not going to get any later until you get stronger. But everything is here for a reason. Evil is here for a reason. There's a reason why there's by Trump acted so, so incredible. If you want to know the truth, Trump is the reason that Biden got elected. E. Saw you on Joe Rogan The interview. I was watching and you predicted Biden would win and And he did, Yeah, at the time. But what I'm saying, uh, the guilt again guilt is living in the past. In the past, if you want to lose guilt, don't live in the past and and the future is not here. The future will never be here because it's the future. But what's here is now here and now here and now, and that's where we're at. And so when, No matter where your heart. If you know these these air secrets, by the way they've seen people first of all they don't want to know because you're not supposed to know, You know, it's just like a spoiler. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. You got nothing to worry about because at the end of the end of the day, you're gonna be fine. You're going to go toe, you're gonna be in the spiritual world. You're going to go back and you're gonna retaliate. You're gonna look at what you what you learn and then what you need to learn. And then you're gonna come back and you're gonna be and it goes forever, forever, e. I agree. It goes forever. I agree. It goes forever. The the idea of what do we do with Jesus? And just my only suggest what not to be in the cliche of Don't throw the baby out with the with the bathwater thinking of John Paul. But regardless of that, I don't want to go into. But I I think a lot of what you're saying has some truth into it, and it does go forever. It is the spirit world after, um, wondering about our guilt and what we dio I just by the grace of God, place it on Jesus, that's all you can. You can. Don't forget. We are you know Jesus. See, Jesus was born in. You know, I You know I understand. You know, the The thing is, Jesus was ripped off by the Romans. You know, their their religion wasn't happening anymore, because Christianity, it wasn't Christianity at the time. But this is weird profit, you know, that rode a donkey. You know, this this weird profit. He's got multitudes believing, believing everything that he says and he could. He really did create the loaves and fishes. And you know, all the miracles that he could do because he was He was so connected. Hey, came at a time, but look, But always remember what Jesus said is that whatever I do, you can do the same. All the miracles that I create, the same mind that's in me. You. That's what I was speaking to his disciples at that time. About when I when I send the Holy Spirit that you know, you could do greater works because the Holy Spirit will be within you. And and that was in the dispensation in a particular time. But that that z neither here nor there. Um, but I'd like to ask you, I don't wanna waste your time. I don't want to take too much more of your time. If you if you if you don't have it, Do I think what you do is incredible, especially knowing your background a little bit more of which I did not know. Most people just see the stardom right, and they don't see the struggles. And most people know that you went to jail as well, and that was a struggle. But understanding how hard of a worker you are is what I appreciate. Do you have any advice for people just thinking of yourself, whether it's baby sitting or mowing lawns or delivering the paper, delivering meat as well, or people who are changing careers where you went from a musician too, you know, even directing some of those things you have in flow with, Do you have advice for people getting in tow work or changing their career? Just listen.

Listen. One time I did a movie where it says it's God and and the reporter, you know, the red carpet said so have you talked to God lately? And I said No, I never talked to God, I just listened to God. So that's my advice. Because that small still voice that's what guides me. That's what guides me. And when you listen, you got to stop because you can't listen. When you're talking, you can, but you don't hear, so you gotta be quiet. There's a meditation, really? Is meditation really is listening because you're listening. You're listening to the sound of the blood rushing through your veins. You're listening. And when you do that, that's when the messages comes to you. See, like a comedy. You know, a lot of times when when comedian Zahra paused, you know, they get that pause. They're they're planning their head. They're going. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I do this one ready. Uh oh. Are I'm gonna keep going with this, all right? Better not. You know what I mean? The new jokes, The new jokes come to comedians to yourself when you're on stage and it's something you didn't work out or you didn't really fully fully defined. But as you take that pause, you're thinking, Hey, this might work, and then you just go with everything. Everything. There's no finished product. Everything is a finished product. it's in this stage. It's in its infancy Now it's maturing a little more now it z old, You know what I mean? Uh, s Oh, yeah, with comedy. Oh, yeah. Sometimes it'll hit usually because I got a nice report with my oversaw eso. So I'll wait. I'll wait and maybe I'll took up a little bit because I don't put me in the in the moment. But sometimes the thing of weight hit me. It's hit me a few times and I got nobody hears. I used to be able to phone Cheech and and and tell Cheech, but I can't can't anymore. So now and I used to be able to tell my way, but I can't anymore. She is on a different trip and I try to tell my son, But no, he's on a different trip to So I just got myself now and some. Sometimes I'll write jokes for myself and and by the way, that that's another thing. Ah, As you get older, you see people talking to themselves. Yeah, yeah, I'm realizing that when you're younger, you like that guy's crazy and then you get older like I'm talking to myself. There's No, there's nothing the most. I think the most important commandment is judge, not that's the most important committee. And I I thought it was so important. I had picked up added on the refrigerator for a while. E think it got through to my wife. Maybe, although I think Jesus, he said judge not. But then he called peoples pigs and swine. So he wasn't. They don't judge, but judge rightly, I think just, you know, judge not. But the reason you don't judge is is because when you put yourself in a judgmental state of money, then before you do anything, you start judging it. You said so you don't want to do that, especially in the car with the comedian, because when you get that impulse, don't judge on it, just do it, you know? Okay, okay, I do it a lot. And and sometimes especially on stage is exciting because when you get to be doing as long as I've done it once other comedians do it, you can have so much fun with the audience. But you gotta be there because it's not a job anymore. That's important, really. Audience members. Well, right, not Thio not to be sitting there waiting. Thio judge your joke to be open and ready for your delivering. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why people that I like, you know what? What big deal like? No, I like him, eh? So many comedians. Al Franken. I get a big kick out of watching Al Franken, the senator, because he is basically a comedian. And so when somebody said something to him, you know, I could see the comedy the years working in his head. You know, a lot of I love committees. Uh, yeah, Absolutely. Yeah. No, no. Judging what it is,...

...it's like art, you know, like I say, I have a hard time showing my heart anybody, because it's so personal to me e i du carvings I carved. I dio I make Bong's. I make pipes. I, uh I'm doing some painting as well. Not yet, Not yet. I did this one painting here. Why is why is it why is it hard to show people? I think you probably have some great talents, Especially when dealing those sticks when you are in Canada. By the fire. Yeah, I'm not I'm not I don't do my art for people to go all I like that. I do my art for me that I like it and I'm so afraid. It's silly. I'm kind of afraid Thio to be to be judged, you know, because I've had that happen to me. You know, people judge me, Uh, you know, when you know, not not around, they don't know how I can hear what they're saying, you know? And that's another reason why I find it very important to be nice Thio to everybody because there's nobody. There's nobody worse being rude to know. Nobody likes to be rude two and then, you know, and and not noticing people. That's why I think it's a It's very important that you notice people you know you don't have, Like I tell people what to do. Cameos, You know, be nice to have the homeless. If you can't give money, give em a smile. You know, see them because a lot of times people purposely don't see. They don't look at what they don't want to see, they, you know, or they will walk away. And so did you see what she was wearing? You know, all that stuff, you know, it zits so bad for the person that's judging. I have a story for you. I have a story for you speaking and this is Ah, rip at the church to just to be honest. Once I befriended a prostitute, a call girl. I guess we would have called her and and I brought her to church with me, and it took weeks and weeks and weeks that maybe even months to convince her to come. But one day she was finally ready and she wore her best clothes. I brought her to church. She happened to know someone in the thing, and it was all backbenchers on. And then that it just became speak people speaking out. She stormed out of there and never came back to that particular place. And it was. It was one of the worst things I've ever experienced especially, you know, weeks and months of trying to get her knowing her difficult life. That's what you're talking about, understanding, appreciating people in the place that they are. And and they didn't and they dropped that. I mean, there's group of people. There wasn't the the whole church there, but, uh, a group of people definitely dropped the ball and this girl she was wearing, you know what she would have wore on a Friday night. But those were her best clothes, You see? See what you did? No. But you see what you did there, and you've got to realize this, too. Is that that was meant to be Because what you did, you shook everything up. And that's that's what you take away from that. That's good. You shook her up. You shook them up, shook everybody up. It was It was tough. It was. It was a difficult thing. And if that happens, you know neighborhoods, you know, they don't want the black guy in there in the mean In the meantime, there on TV, watching some incredible black performer, Tiger Woods or something, you know, you know, scoring the incredible being incredible. But they wouldn't want that guy in their neighborhood. How is Tiger? No, Apparently, still in surgery that he got an accident yesterday and California? It busted up. Yeah, he's messed up. We'll see. It might be It might be the best thing that happened to him, huh? Well, hope so. It's tragic when you see people who are famous And for whatever reasons, I mean, some people seem like they fall in a way that is really detrimental to their career, right? Like so. But it z hopefully, I hopefully they learn, right. And I mean, I don't learn. I'm an idiot, and I make mistakes and fight...

...with my wife and don't treat people the way I probably should be treating them. Do you have? Do you have kids? My two darling Children 11. Brianna Benjamin seven. Bring in. And Benjamin. So pretty. So beautiful, huh? Yeah. My wife's Korean. And are they speaking Korean? Yeah. They speak Korean in English, and and my my daughter is speaking some French to because we had a friendship French immersion when we were in Canada for a little bit. But my dear wife is hard. I mean, you mentioned your wife being good with organizing the money and all this. My dear wife has them when they're home. Home school. Like when they're not in school because of Corona. Just piles and piles of work they're doing there. Yeah, the Korean Asian way. It's Asian way is so cool. So Koreans are like the sole people of the Orientals. You know, they're the, uh, speaking of beautiful like Tiger Woods and and my my dear wife with the hard work is there. I know you went to jail, but is there some adversity? And I only have another question for you if if you have the time for it. One kind of Is there anything people don't understand about you that you would like them to understand so that they can have a better appreciation of your work? I mean, in this last hour that we've been speaking, I've gained a great appreciation for you in the work. My mom happened to pass away just last year, and she was 66. And you're you're going on 80 something and your work 83 you're working hard. I mean, covert covert probably puts a little wrench and everybody's plans, but I mean exactly right. And you're working hard. You look good. You have an exercise bike there beside behind you there. Treadmill. Is there anything that you'd like people to understand about you a little bit better so they can understand? You have decades of work before you and knowing that you worked hard and you weren't willing to say no to anyone and you didn't care about the money. The money came But you you didn't do it for the money in particular. And that's what I have appreciation for. Is there anything else that people may not understand about you? It's hard to say. You know, I I was kind of shocked the other night. We've been going up with these people from, oh, ever since the light down and before before, and I thought we knew each other. Yeah. And so the other day were at the Bel Air Hotel. We're having dinner, and I said something about jail, you know? And, uh the lady go, Jim, who were you in jail now? Everybody, if they know may thank you. That was That was news. It was had my news. It wasn't just in the local paper. It was on. It was people talking about his kids, their kids, everything. And she goes, Oh, you Until I didn't know that. And she was she was serious. And then s o. So I realize you know that on the guy her husband hey, got the Corbett, he got really bad, and he came out of, but still like Trump, but they're beautiful people on their very wealthy. Very well, Yeah, but I looked at her. Wow. It was Sugar Ray Leonard. You know, the boxer beside me, and and there's a There were a game, you know? But I got strangers no more about me than and we're really good friends. This person. What? What? What I realized is people, for the most part, they don't have much time for anybody but themselves. And what what they say. You know their thing, and I understand it. And I I really go for it because again, it's why we're here. We're here to learn, you know? And is there something that you dive into that people might not something that you like to do, that it's not your work like you were just mentioning art or something. Well, I know I can. I can tell you the hidden fears that I have E I think more than more than anything it's a hidden fear that I had is gone. Now. I talked to Larry King because when you get older, you lose your sexual ability. Mm. And that was my big...

...fear. As I was getting older and Luckily, I was okay. Okay. Okay. And then I had your fear was that it was gonna happen, or your fear was that had happened. It was over that my my sexual, that it was over at that point, Yeah, was over. It's over, you know? And I met, uh, Ernest Borgnine when I was about I guess sixties Sunday, you know, and I met awareness, and I said, Ernest, how's your sex Slaves? And Earnest says he was old. He goes, I masturbate and okay, I didn't think that. But then I talked to Larry King and I asked, very because I had prostate cancer in rectal cancer. And so and then I tried to revive the guy, and and I was on testosterone for a while, and it was just no, not happening. In fact, I I broke up pimples and shit. And so I had to quit that. Then I realized it's God, So I talked. Thio. Larry King. That's there. How's your sex life? Vehicles non existed then he said, But there's an upside. And I said e lean forward. Yeah, he goes, You don't get jealous. Mm. Well, it changed my life. Mhm, because up into them. I was feeling you would feel inadequate. You, you know? So what do you What would you just be? I mean, maybe it's my ignorance or just stupidity, but what would you not be jealous of? Other people who are are still active, jealous of my wife's affection for, well, someone else jealous of? That's what Larry was. Larry was married to a young, beautiful woman. He divorced her. He actually divorced her s so that the kids would get the inheritance about her because he knew that she's gonna marry. You know, she's going to do well, she's going to be okay. Uh, with me, it was I got a beautiful wife on, and every once in a while I'd see signs of her flirting, you know, with with guys. And then when when you got cancer, you know that your time is limited and is not only limited, but it's inevitable, you know? I mean, you know, if I make it to 90 it's gonna be a while, you know, that make it 100 whole shit, But that's it, I said. And so I didn't see the end of the room, you know? And so for a while there, I felt scared, you know, inadequate, you know, And then I, Dr Larry, and now I'm at peace. I'm totally at peace because I know because you've got to practice what you preach, you know, it's not. There's one thing I can tell everybody what todo. But when it comes to yourself, you've got to practice what you preach, and and that's what I'm doing now. And so that's really why I'm devoting a lot of time into talking and doing my carvings and because that's what I want to leave. I'm not going to sell it piece of my heart until until I'm gone. And then all that will go to my my my offspring. You know, my kids and my family, you know, and I'm quite sure it's gonna be worth worth worth something. You mentioned jail, and you mentioned some difficulties there, but at being a piece of is there any adversity that you faced in your life in particular? But you can use that whether it hinders you positively or negatively or helps you or hinders you. But you can use that adversity to encourage other people, especially in thinking of work right, Because some people goto work, they're depressed, They're they're upset. They lose a job, they're not certain of their future. Money is tight and they face adversity. So I mean thinking of your coming up of being a hardworking man, right? There's no doubt about it. You are a hard working man, right up till today, and people face adversity. And do you have some adversity in your life that you can help appreciate? It helps you appreciate the adversity other people are facing in their lives and and encourage them in some way. Depression is probably the biggest, the biggest threat. Thio humanity through depression. If you can get by...

...depression, you're okay because depression is like a dark hole and you can't crawl out of it. You get more and more depressed because it's like depression ads on more depression that you know what I found out and and I'll kind of leave you with this. We were talking, you know, but you're Christian Jews and Muslims, and they and they kind of these religions kind of rules ruled the planet. You know, one way or another, there's wars fought over and all sorts of things and to believe there is one word that is used almost all old daily. And if you have the ability to just realize how the brain works, how the mind works the mind is, is it's a computer. It's incredible. But like a computer, you can't have two thoughts at the same time, you have to have one thought at a time, right? And so if you can control your thoughts, you'll never be unhappy. But there's a key to controlling your thoughts. And that's what uh, Emmett Fox he writes about. It's called The Golden Key that three. I boiled it down. You know, it's gone through meditation, you know, a meditation. You have a word, you concentrate everything i e brought it down parody down to the the least common denominator. Because that was really the getting down to the lowest common denominator is really the secret of any success. Like you can't have anything until you lose everything. Everything. Then you can start building again. Just you got a building, you tear it right down, tear it right down the foundation. Everything. What's got it? Boom. And then you re build something new, Better stronger. Bring your math and do it, though that's tough. That's okay. No, But here, here's how simple it is. Here's how simple it is. If you could only have one thought in your head at one time at a time, and I want you to try this later than the most powerful word in the human language is God. That's the most powerful word. When you we saw a war being fought at the Capitol in Washington in the name of God, when they swear on the Bible they swear in the name of God. When you get buried, you're going to God. God is the most powerful word, so you don't have to say it. You just have to think it. And then when you ask God like I do all the time, I lose my phone, I lose it all the time. I said to God, God, where's my phone? I don't even say please anymore. I'll say God, where's my phone? That phony turns up because it is the most powerful thought you can have in your head. You can't have any more powerful thought, because what does God represent? Everything. Alfa Omega. Everything in the beginning was the word And the word was God. So right now, whatever you're doing, you lose something. You want something, anything. Put everything else out of your mind except the word God, and do it in a very loving, beautiful way. And you can do it here secretly. Like when you when you're anything if you having an argument with your wife or anybody to stop, just stop whatever you're doing And just think you got it. Just Oh, God. Okay. And watch the miracles happen. Because what did Jesus do any but did all the miracles he thought of God. Oh, yeah. Okay, there's how can people reach you? And I just have one final question if you have it And thats why do you work? Why do I work? Yeah, because it's not work. If it was work, I wouldn't do it. E I have fun. I don't...

...work. I have fun. Thank you, kind sir. And they confined you on your website. Tommy Chong's cannabis dot com. That's a bad Well, perfect. Thank you kind sir. I truly appreciate the time you've given me and I appreciate the work that you dio try. Thank you for listening to this episode. of why we work with Brian V. B. Be sure to subscribe, follow and share with others so they too can be encouraged in their work. E hope that you have yourself a productive be a joyful day in your work.

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