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#97 Ferris Kennedy & Dr. Ian Clarke - The Ferris Wheel Classic Rock Show - BrianVee WhyWeWork


Ferris Kennedy, Dr. Ian Clarke, and Steven Wheeler are the host of The Ferris Wheel Classic Rock Show Podcast. They are a 60s, 70s, 80s Classic Rock podcast that brings experience, research, entertainment, and humour to their show. Tune in and keep rockin'.

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"This award-winning podcast combines knowledge, humor, and reckless behavior, never apologizing, never repeating, always delivering the goods on what makes classic rock classic. The three amigos - Steven Wheeler, Ferris Kennedy, and Dr. Ian Clarke - risk their semi-professional reputations and interpersonal bonding to keep you informed, entertained, and intellectually shamed.

Three ill-equipped men on an unexplored, dangerous voyage into the dark labyrinth of classic rock and roll. We don't know the word 'trivia'. Everything is important. Listen in - and bring it all back to life!" (LinkedIn, 2021)

...welcome to why we work with your host, Brian VI ous. He speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which would be an encouragement to us all to get up. Get going on. Keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now, here is your host to why we work. Brian V. I'm Brian V. And this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure of speaking with Ferris Kennedy and Dr Ian Clark from the Ferris wheel rock show E want to find out from them today what music means to them and what music means to others. Join me in my conversation today with the gentleman from the Ferris wheel rock show. I'm Brian V. And this is why we work. I am with two gentlemen from the Ferris wheel rock show, Ferris Kennedy and Dr Ian Clark. Good day. Fine, gentlemen. Good day, Brian. I'm doing wonderfully. I'm doing wonderfully well, Thank you. I appreciate your guys. This time. I know your other partner from the trio of you. Stephen Wheeler. He had another appointment And I'm just happy to have one of you let alone two of you, that you guys have a very good podcast on rock and roll music. Maybe one of you, whoever, uh, stronger of the two, I'm not sure would like to given ah, little rundown of the industry that you're in with this. It's obviously the music industry. Um, but also, what is what is it that you're doing together? Well, what we do together way talked about a lot of our classic rock, and the concept came about in late 2017. Uh, Stephen and I were sitting down talking and we want to get a show going And we figure, you know what maybe classic rock is are actually start off this rock in general as we talk about music because we like different genres of music. Forget about about eight pilot episodes, just the two of us. And in between that time I started connecting with Clarkey here, and I started talking about music and he really encouraged the podcast. And I said that I said, when I get a couple of these recorded, I'll send them off to you and, you know, give me your two cents. And lo and behold, not even a split second of a decision, I said to Stephen said, We we found our permanent trio, which is Dr Clark, and we've been talking about classic rock music throughout 60 seventies and eighties. And sometimes you touch a bit on grunge and I could let you clarky give a little bit more of how we get into depth of some of the material to come up with. We'll get into that. We'll get into that a little bit later as you guys talk more about your show. But, Ian, what did you think initially of fares coming to you with this idea? Well, it was interesting. I I have never been a podcast, although I had been on Radio. E used to work for the CBC as a writer years ago, and I did a lot of campus radio, but I never thought of and then we just kind of hit it off and we're talking a particular segment of pop culture, or mhm. 65 to about 82 is very narrow in many ways, but that's where my natural affiliations live. And...

...the rest of the guys, too you know you're asking earlier were kind of touched on why people work. I think you do something like this. It's not for the money, Believe me, You do something like this because there's a passion and ingrained interest. Um, in what you're doing and you like to be surprised with the trivia, we do lots of trivia, and you never seem to get tired of it. You're you're absolutely right. And for people that may not know who you are, maybe we'd like to go down some memory lane. I mean, you guys go for 60 seventies and eighties, but what about your youth? Ferris. What about for you? What would have been the very first job you would have had a man I had started off a za kid cutting grass. I had borrowed my dad's lawn more, which is a riding land. More back in the 80 was like a luxury to have one of those. And I was able Thio to cut grass for my neighbors and as that rolled into, you know, a good income as a kid under 16 before you could start entering the workforce legally, I had done that. It was like a little bit of, ah, self employment. And that was How old are you? 12. Okay, 12 years of age and I started doing that. And then when I was 16, I got my first part time job at McDonald's, and that was fun to a certain point. Then I got fact, as you know, the food there, And, uh, then when you go to college and you kind of like girls, you kind of have toe tell it yourself a little bit. So I left McDonalds and started working for a sports store. So I started dropping weight, and I started to become a little bit more athletic, you know? And I just want to look, you know, or the Fenderson pants. That was my main goal. So you don't have to wait. It's just that if you want the girls to like you in return, that's that's the you know, zero there was. It's nice, you know, they look at the inside, but you know, the outside helps to once No outside gotta wanted to do that. And it worked out that I started working in retail. I started doing a bit of campus radio at the college I was at on the Quebec side here, and it was always rated was always something in the back of my mind that I always wanted to do. And in the industry at the time, it's not that easy to get in. And you talked a lot of announcers today. They say, You know, there was some dog days when it comes toe income and how to support yourself. So you have to also think of your future. But fast forwarding, you know, from odd jobs into my passion, the voice of radio, the passion for music that was always there When I was a kid, I would listen to Casey Kasem every Saturday morning. Rick Dees guys like Dick Clark, Howard Stern. You know, how could you not respect Hobby? Does his interviews, how he became the shock jock. Even Don Imus had some interesting things that people could look up Thio. But I think a lot of the radio that I enjoyed as a kid is growing up in in Ottawa and listening to guys like Steve Gregory, who was with Cool FM at the time. Carter Brown, who was known as Downtown Carter Brown, uh for 54 Rock and then 89 9 and then kiss. He was just a Nikon to me, and now you know, listen to a lot of classic rock. I learned a lot of information from the guys that they're on the radio right now, so it kind of motivates you to do more things and you come up with ideas and scenarios. So...

...it's This is a passion, Brian. It's something that I've always like. A love music. I love classic rock, grunge and old school hip hop and being within, I got to learn a lot more of and have appreciation for sixties and seventies, and he actually got to appreciate grunge because of me. Do you Ferris have a full time job as well? Besides pursuing your passion? What is it? What what do you do full time? So for my professional career, where I go by my actual name, I I do insurance for a living. So that's my professional career. Uh, that has been something I've been doing for since, uh, we're approaching 20 years now, and that's what I love about doing this show meeting people who, if they're not in their passion in doing it full time. They also by responsibility and discipline keep going with another job. So I commend you on doing that because maybe you would love to be in something else. Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe a perfect 20 years. You're in industry. So you're doing that well, So I commend you for the dedication that you're you're doing both things and doing both things. Well, obviously, because you wouldn't be in the business. What about you, Ian? And what was your first job? My first job was delivering morning paper at about 5. 30 in the morning. I was about 10 years old and I loved it. It was 10 years a morning paper. And and that was that. When I tell my four kids, I tell them that's where. Really? Where Kind of a work discipline started. Because you're 10 years old. You're all alone, and you have to get yourself up. Bobo us, right? And you have to deliver literally. So why would they don't have those paper routes anymore. I know that, but it was a great start on my work ethic, so I went from basic way. He spoke a little bit earlier about people. Um trying to get into ah, job that meets their aptitudes. I was always a little bit better for some reason in writing been most cool and it stood out. And as I went on into high school, I started to consider how I might make a living at this. Is this my firm belief that you seem to be happiest in work if you follow any kind of little aptitude or gift, whatever you call it that you're given and eso I did and I went into the marketing business in the advertising business. Oh, third, Yeah, five years Goto very fortunate that I had this little tiny aptitude for using words on paper and to create things that way. I was very lucky. Yeah, and is that what you're into now as well? Do you have yourself a full time job or No, I just ahead. I freelance and I do blocks mostly unpopular culture and film reviews. I've reviewed motion pictures for most of my law,...

...right, and I've been involved in the film industry in Toronto on along the way. I did a lot of radio stuff at the CBC, and, uh, but it's always been based on writing. That's what's got me into. All this stuff is writing, you know. And so I was very lucky and that I for that I could do better than a lot of people around me, and that's taking me through. It made me a living, so I'm lucky. Then with we'll stick with your podcast of the questions that I have because you guys work together. What is the process that you guys go through, say, on a weekly or bi bi weekly basis? Seeing that there's three of you that must be hard, Thio collaborate and get, you know, relatively difficult to have three people together on one show? No, it it works out well because of the chemistry and the characters that we are my personal character, plus my character on the on the podcast. The only difference is, is the name really who I am on? There's where I am in real life and saying with Clarky, he's he's like that. He's our musical encyclopedia. It works out well. We come up with concepts. We brainstorm a lot of ideas we have now. We're on our fifth season, and in the fifth season we've actually introduced segments which reflect to our characters persona. We got Ian's knock. You got Kennedy's yes or no, and we have Wheeler's vinyl reviews. So it's starting to really come along. And with those three segments, it's easy for each one of us to come up with the piece of material for that segment because it's your own segment and then the material that we're going to talk about on that show it rotates whoever is going to take the lead on the top we want. So, for example, we did recording on by inhaling. I'm a big man handling guy. So I was. I took the lead on it CCR and took the lead on it. So were you guys at one point together say, before cove it are You guys usually recording separately? No. We record all the time together in Do you guys have a studio? My home. Eso You guys live within the vicinity of one another? Yeah, We're about what, 10 kilometers away? King? Yeah, it's close enough. We began at a campus radio station. I went to your website and I was reading Thean Road. It's like, Yeah, I was, uh, a roadie for was it. Justin Bieber in the road. Famous book. Shut up, you big baby. E was like, I Googled Amazon. E was like, Maybe maybe this'll is a good book. What is it that you in Geneva on? What brings you some difficulty in being together, making a podcast, Especially in the genre that you guys have chosen, What is some difficulty? But what is some satisfaction you get out of it? I think for me satisfaction is, uh, just being, um, kind of in a mini club with people. Are your conferencing a subject? That's kind of a common denominator. It's a hobby. And that brings you together from my own background. Writers usually works not the most gregarious experience. So you almost welcome the opportunity to be around people. So that's what kind of fuels may.

What about yourself? Their fears. What fuels me is after guardian when we get together. Um, but when we set our dates that we're gonna record and you get up that morning, you shower your shade, you get dressed. Yeah. You start clearing your voice because you're getting ready to record. You set up all your material. You get excited because you know you're gonna you're gonna kneel. Another good episode, because you always have to think positive. And we we got this chemistry that way. Finally, I'd like to say we mastered our time within the podcast requirements. They always recommend 45 minute podcast You put all your material in after everything is done with our editing, we we've We've mastered this science, and I get I get excited. I I could go on. You could tell me we're gonna record for, like, eight hours, five days of 55 times a week. I mean, you know, you tell me when and where I will make sure I have the time available and we'll go and we'll hammer it out. Bring water, clear throat halls, whatever you need. You just get excited. I get, like, this big rush. When we used to do it, the campus radio. I think I was doing cart wheels down the stairs because I said we're going to the studio, Put on the headset, the microphone we're in and we're on our own little world. You know, you mentioned mastering and you didn't mention it as you grew up that you had your own show. What really grinds me, grinds my gears And that's because you were just you were go getter. And not only that, Ian, you were the youngest to graduate from the Juilliard, which is why we call you Dr Ian Clark. It's not. You're not Dr Feel good or anything like that. You know, you have true credentials, but and you mentioned mastering Is there something that, as for the last five years that you guys had toe hone in on on a particular skill that you needed to work on, that you're still working on? Even with your experience, I think sticking in the in the in the realm of classic Yeah, I think, Yeah. For a skill you have Thio, you have to almost be a good editor, a good self edit. When we did our early podcast, whenever I detected a law or something going on the podcast that I thought would translate to boredom, almost we would edit that out, or I would review how that happened on we got better and better, and the we the podcasts became shorter and we just got more. Um, we would smoothly you can predict, like musicians what they're going to say. And how so? We just got better at it because of a camaraderie. You're going to say Farris. No, he hit on the head. We There was a lot of dead time dead air. You know, you're humming and hiding in the beginning, right? Because you don't know what they're going next. And now what we tend to have mastered is get your liner notes. You have your points, what you want to elaborate on and we work on from our list and we like the we like to discipline ourselves. I think that we follow a schedule of what shows we're gonna do we if we're taking the lead on it. We definitely rehearse our timing of our segment because you don't wanna keep your partner, you know, waiting for him to give an answer. So we do some rehearsal. But like Ian said, editing is is key. And he's caught on with some things that we used to do in the past that now the editing is almost flawless. Its's still some editing. We do, but it z almost flawless. And we're getting it right. It it reminds me I've been watching a lot of comedy lately.

...just I have a newfound interest in comedy, and I was watching something on Netflix with Jerry Seinfeld, and it was a show showing him how he goes through his process of developing that one hour show. And he would take, you know, a joke here and there and pop into a club. Get five minutes, just five minutes time. Just give me that. It is almost like a fiend, right? Just give me this this little hit. And then he did that. He worked on and he crafted it and he, you know, revising and getting through it. And then finally in the end, and as you said, getting at those hums and those Hawes getting those lol moments, reviewing, watching I watched another guy or any Adams who is not as funny, maybe, is, But he's really he's one of the hardest working guys in showbiz, that he's just crafting it out and trying to perfect it the best that he can. And it sounds like that's what you guys dio and it's good advice for other people in whatever they're doing is look at you know, no matter what kind of job you're doing is to work out those those down times those up times and see what works and what doesn't work. And it might make your job a little bit more enjoyable. Thinking I e. I agree. I think that okay, people sometimes get not offended, but perhaps put out in a corporate environment, when you suggest improvements, improvements can be made on anything, that's the idea. It's not a critique or criticism and enhancement and improvement. And I think it's really important in a work environment to be, uh, receptive to that and not to personalize a big danger I've seen, especially with it tends thio impact younger people, but they personalize everything business. You will destroy your yourself if it ISS because business is business and that's it. And that just seems to be the way it works. If you personalize it, you'll get hurt, especially in P places like advertising where somebody might say, I don't really like what you just did there. It's not personal. Then you write something new, and you could say, That's great, Dad, isn't it her personal? Yeah, I heard that in reference to clothing. Someone said, Look at it, like wearing clothing you might be wearing Whatever you do, you did it improperly. You didn't do it well, that that's like an ugly shirt. Well, you take that shirt off, but it's not you, right? You can put a different shirt on. You can try something different, but it's not. It's not the character of who you are, even though sometimes it feels like they're getting you at your heart. Speaking of other businesses and how people can do things well, Do you guys have some advice for people thinking of getting into, uh, cutting grass or delivering the newspapers? Someone getting into work for the first time? You kind of touched on it Ian or people changing their careers right from something that they're not very happy about into something that might be a little bit more to their skills and talents. Do you have advice for people getting in tow work or changing their career? Um, let's say I would go back. Thio. Give it careful thought. Don't react to an emotional situation. Often you'll hear. Oh, my boss and me, I gotta get out of here. Yeah, well, the grass is always greener. Be very careful before you jump over that fence because you might land in the worst place. Try it, want to do, and it's tough to discover that. But that's that's the focus. If you want hold, that is a focal point. If you really wanna change environment, don't just jump to more money because you'll be among people who just want more money. It's not a great gig. Your role would be the...

...do and you might be lucky, and you might be able to do that. So hold off. Don't make it emotional. Make it strategic. That would be my advice on. I would have to say, Don't ever leave a job if you don't have another one guaranteed. Because sometimes in today's market, no matter what industry you're in, whether it's entertainment, finance, insurance, you name it. You gotta have at least some security before you start jumping that fence. And, like you said before you jump that fence, grass is not always going the other side. So for those of you that want to get into an entrepreneurial venture or if you want to change your career, there's nothing wrong with a bit of homework on it. And there's nothing wrong with asking advice on those who have been there before you because I find experience is hard to buy. And if you could get that experience for free and someone's gonna will is willing to give you that That that knowledge and that advice take it thinking for those who have been there before you. It reminds me my dear wife likes watching the crown. I don't know Netflix the crown about the queen and and last night we watched it together and and the prince Ah, Prince Philip. He was in a law, a life law, not understanding his place in life. And then, at that time, the the asked Armstrong and then went to the moon, and he was just amazement, like how wonderful these guys must have it thinking of the other side of the fence. And then they invited them to Buckingham Palace. And he was like he had some questions and these guys were Mawr interested in his job. Then he was more interested in theirs, and they were more interested in his and he's like it was such a disappointment. He thought, you know, that these guys would have all of life and life's answers, and in the end, they were looking to him in the same way that he was looking to them. So you're right. The idea of grass is always greener. And and take take account of what you have before. You're just jumping ship to something else. Yeah. You're trying to detach yourself from the emotionality surround. It's not. You have to become a robot, but you have to step back a bit and say, Okay, I can always leave. But what's gonna happen next? I can always get another. Okay, Did this or that? I can always work, but what do I really want to dio? And if you stay in the same sector often companies are the same. I did a lot of work so you can work at IBM, Apple, Hewlett Packard. What doesn't matter? There There is a symmetry to them all there really is or and work for, you know, CNN, MSNBC or whatever it ISS. And there's a symmetry to that. So jumping ship doesn't always make sense. Uh, the tabloids, but in reality, you could be in for a pretty tough right. What about Ferris character? And maybe even in the podcast industry of what is a top character trait that is required or even in the music industry, Because I know that you guys, even some of the pictures you guys, you've met some people. You obviously have done some research on a number of people. What is a character trait that is most essential, or at least top one for you? I think you have to be personal and treat. You got to treat these. Um, however, if they're famous, used to got to treat like because if you treat your good friend, you know, treat them like a friend because the end of day there, like you and I, right, they got feelings, got emotions, get to know them. You know, it's nice to be awestruck, and so look, there's Mick Jagger or there's Bryan Adams. But the end of the day, if you approach them and say, Hey, make my wife and I really like your your last album, you did. You...

...know, I see you're still in shape and you start opening up the door with, you know, small talk. I think being personal being yourself, Um, that's that's one thing I've always wanted to tell people that I always wanna be the same guy that you see me a today is the same guy. You'll see me two weeks from now when we when we talk again, right? That's what I was gonna be personal people, and I think for the podcast trying to meet people If you be personal and be yourself and no, don't treat them as if it's their their rock star. I think if you treat them like a human being, you're going to get a little bit more of a better reaction where they might sit down and talk to you on. As for the podcast, the best advice for people that want to do it, I always think, is clarity and enunciation is really important when you speak unfortunate that I was blessed with a loud voice that I could stand 10 ft from the other room to record and you'll still hear me, I wondered you mentioned Don Don and with Howard Stern. I wonder if people would have thought so badly about him if Howard Stern didn't crank it up first. Because I wasn't. Maybe I wasn't in the circles, but just what was it private parts so on and where how were just saying how bad I'm is Waas the the idea that I wonder in the character and giving people a chance and understanding who they really are. Maybe he wasn't a nice guy. I'm not sure. But if if someone else doesn't, if you're not looking at the picture of someone else portrays, give someone a chance and see what character traits that they actually have. What about you, Doctor? Mhm. Mhm Question was what again, character? Maybe in the music world, in the podcasting world, what character trait do you find is essential, if not just important? Well, I would say you have to have a certain amount of resilience and that you've gotta work hard in the beginning, especially for nothing monetary. Reward it all. And you just have to You have to be your own boss. I think a lot to life, you know, punching the clock, so to speak. They have a boss and they have memos, etcetera, etcetera. When you you know, when you do these podcasts, you're an entrepreneur. Stores are the role home boss. They have their own bank again for podcasting. A certain entrepreneurial flair will help you revoked mhm 23 businesses and eso. I've been through that and it's a lot of work on the front end and then eases off a little bit. So that's one in terms of this podcast. I'm grateful that it's about music. It's about something that I like and that I followed since I was a little boy. When you have that kind of in a passion behind you, it doesn't make it work. It makes it a hobby. So that's the way I think of what we do. It's not Bobby E. I love showing up. Yeah, it's interesting how, regardless, if you make money or not, people might tag it as a hobby. But it's something you know they don't They don't tag charity right as a hobby when you're not getting any money out of it or something. And I'm not saying that you guys are not getting money, But it's quick to say my dear wife, sometimes, like, how much time are you spending? I really, really love doing it. Please back off a bit and I had a question that I mentioned up in the introduction about you guys...

...is what what does music do for you and what do you believe it does for other people. So you obviously have this love for music, regardless of the genre that you have in your podcast, your views about certain musicians. But what is what is the core of your feelings from music, and what do you believe that does for other people? I think it. I think it lifts them up emotionally. Some people, spiritually, they turned to music. If you're going through rough times and you know whether it's personal or professional, you could turn to music for a lot of things to help you get through it for myself. Unfortunately, no, that my childhood was was a good childhood that I have tough times as a kid growing up. Sure, we all we all go through those those first heartbreaks. We all go through those first job losses or sometimes the offers that you're looking for, Didn't really, you know, come into fruition when you turn to music. E think it, um it really motivates you, and I'm a professional career for myself. I turned to music when I was completing my professional designation, uh, in my actual career for insurance. So I was at the last exam that I needed. And let me tell you, it was a doozy. And I turned to music to motivate me before I would study. And then the days that I wrote that exam. And I know I remember that last day when I wrote that examine, I knew I passed that I felt it. I blasted. Think Bryan Adams. Summer 69 So bloody loud in my car. People thought I was crazy, you know, just so I I turn the music thio. It makes me happy, You know, even you work out. You always have to have music on. I need noise in the background. I can't function a day without my radio on. I need it. So it's motivating for sure. No, Dr Clark, are you pumping out Bryan Adams to to motivate you? E. O. On it is, I think music is spiritual. I think there's something about it that's spiritually. And when I was a little boy, the was the music of the church. So maybe that's where it's grounded. My mother used to play, uh, piano in the church, so I know all the old hymns and and jazz. Oh, all this stuff. That's where it started when I was like six or seven years old. Maybe that had something to do with it. But one of the most exciting things I know discovering a song this wonderful that happened a few days ago. To me, it happens about maybe once a month, maybe once every two months, and it's accepted. It's a spiritually moment. It lifts, it, lifts you beyond yourself. It's it's really exciting. And, uh, I couldn't imagine a world without music is just see it as a great unifier. It cuts across politics. It cuts across economic situations. You could listen to wonderful music from from Africa from the Middle East. It's all great stuff. When I was a kid, you couldn't. They had something called World Albums, and that was pretty well, it now, especially with the Internet, it's really, really is a global village, and I find that exciting soda. I think music has a strong spirituals spine to it, and that's what it makes it endure. Three minutes fluffy stuff that were recorded 60 years ago, and yet they had that magic. So that's for me, a spiritual essence.

I think it reminds me of why I do this podcast and appreciating all of the gifts and the talents that people bring and the same way with music. If you have a love for music and you can appreciate, you may hate you know a particular song or dislike a song for whatever reasons. But in some ways you should appreciate what the person was trying to do in trying toe uplift or encourage, or to bring someone back to a memory in the skills that people have with their musical instruments or their voice. The writing talents as you're talking about Ian, all of those things that there's a whole gamut of things you can appreciate about any genre, any time any country, like I'm in Korea, I listen to music or hear it on the radio that I have no idea what they're saying. But I'm like, I see what they're trying to do there, and I appreciate the work they're doing. Do you guys have go ahead? Yeah, I was gonna say it's true and and sometimes even if you go to a kid's concert and at school and really sing, they sing off key. They can't keep time, but it doesn't matter. The idea of being is, but they're really enjoying themselves. The U Circle right? That's what it's about is it brings them all together. And so in that case, they'll remember that for the rest of their lives is extremely important. Sounds like my life singing up T g not having any idea. Do you guys have it on overall goal for your podcast? Maybe individually? Or do you have a collective goal? Oh, we'd love to have her own morning show one day that za long term. But I think we have a common common goal in the sense that Aziz, long as people, appreciate what we do and if we could provide that 45 minutes of escape from reality and enjoy our humor and and our knowledge on the classic rock genre Andi send us a few emails is to give us some ideas of what you'd like to hear is a show that's that's That's the goal. We as long as people tend, Thio gives them a chance to To get out of reality, take 45 minutes and listen to the first real classic rock show. You had a bad day, but you know what you know you're gonna get a good laugh for those 45 minutes. It makes you forget about things that that we're not good that day. That's what we want to bring that to people you know, bring bring happiness to people and provide the knowledge and humor that we can. Yeah, I think you have a passion for something. It could be baking. It could be race car driving. You can always spot passionate people because they like to talk about their never quiet about it. So you see, how did how How did the fishing go? Oh, the fishing in the go go on and on. But the fish he caught or whatever he did so the classic rock. We have a passion for that type of music and that hopefully makes it contagious, right? Because people will sense that. Yeah. Even though I'm not really interesting about these guys and that catches on, is there anything that people may not understand about the Ferris wheel rock show that you would like people to understand? So they tune in or even have ah, greater, deeper appreciation about the work that you're doing. Man, I think for myself I think it's Constand is an example for other people who would like to get involved with others who share a passion. It could be a camera going to museum that if you do it, you will have a new enriched life because you'll be around people who share your passion. We are right. We...

...like to get together even in Cove. In times we like to get together. And that's when I refer to this. This'll podcast. Sometimes we were guest in who share a passion, and that's what makes it interesting. I wouldn't wanna do it all alone. You know forever. You, like Thio interact people on Duh. That's what makes it a wholesome, more of a healthy environment. Yeah, the solo shows are We do solo shows to do, obviously due to Kobe. But it's a big challenge because there's no Stephen Wheeler that, you know, I put my jokes at There's no Dr Clark that I get them all you know, riled up on something. Gotten you heard. That shows you it doesn't take much to set us off, right? We have that. But it is true. It is something that we like to show up. Thio, we definitely enjoy the concept of it. We enjoy providing the history, the knowledge. We love it. It's classic rockets music. It heals the soul. You know, when you talk about it, you're happy. Speaking of healing, healing, the idea of adversity Is there some adversity that you have faced in your life that whether in your insurance, Ferris or in your writing, Ian, that it affects you, but you use? You can use that as an encouragement for other people in their work so that they can keep keeping on? Yeah, in my in my line of professional work, I'll sum it up in with very little information to provide, because you gotta be careful. We talk about these things, uh, dealing with the general public in particular, and it's tough you're you're held liable on information. If you want to provide to people, you want to make sure you give them the proper information, and I find sometimes when people just don't pay attention to what you have to say, or if they just treat you like you're somebody else and they don't respect what you do for a living because they think it's just fluff work. It's tough and you put yourself in a position saying, You know what? I'm better than this. So you get you build tough skin and you take that frustration during the day and obviously for me, I go to the gym whenever the gym's open again, I go to the gym, I work out, blow off the steam, and then you re focus. So for me, it actually, the more that people get upset at me, it actually motivates me. Even mawr. It just don't know. It just charges me up. It's like, all right, I'm doing my So when I'm giving you news, it's not always the good news, but I know I'm doing my job right. That's what I gotta do. So at the end of day for me and motivates me even more, it gets me excited. I I take that negative and I put my energy or something else. I will find a non article to write about for the podcast. I'll just take that energy. I'll take the negative energy turned into a positive, and I'll come up with some ideas and I'll call in and I'll event and then I'll tell. That's what I just did you know, and then he's on the phone like 25 minutes with me missing his dinner. Ian. It was obvious. It's obvious to both of us that Ferris goes to the gym. Isn't that quite obvious? I'm sorry that he what? Hey said, Well, when? When I get bothered by people, it's quite obvious. I go to the gym. I go. Isn't it obvious that he goes to the gym? He's packing those pipes. What about What about you, Ian? What what sort of adversity may have you may have faced that you can use for encouragement for other people? I would say this that there's a famous same in said by...

...philosophers, Right, Destroy me only makes me stronger, and that's kind of hard line. But you know where he's coming from. Adversity can toughen you up. You, ah, hard person. It can bring out refinement in your character, and you don't even know it at the time. And that could be a off like going to a funeral or any kind of maybe losing your job. Whatever it iss Onley, in retrospect, in the rear view mirror. Do you realize that made me a little more focused and kinder to people who might be going through the same thing. Right When you're quite young, sometimes you're very judgmental. Well, maybe the guys having a really bad day. Maybe his pet dog is sick. Maybe he lost his car. Maybe he's going through a divorce. I don't know. Isn't he's like that? I've known people who are really dreadful one day, and you seem a week later. He's fantastic. So people go through things. So I you got to kind of give people a bit of a break and hopefully they'll give you a break. You know, that's the scenes. But the way life works were not consistent. Animals screwed up and down in a Silla scope. And, uh, that's the way I look at people. You know. There's good days and there's bad days. Is there anything that we haven't touched upon gentlemen, that you may want to throw out there as well? Some either advice for people or just something about your show, something that's on your mind. Our show? Well, we have good. We started, started to get some good, good listeners, um, became friends and our listeners, they've joined our social media platforms. Um, we're streaming every Wednesday on Cap City beats dot c A. Which is an auto A base, the Internet radio station. So they could. They could definitely tune in with that on Wednesdays at seven. Um, but on our show alone advice, here's what people toe Take the Ferris wheel classic rock school and and have fun with it in the sense that, like I said, escape from reality for 45 minutes. You know, whenever you're having those those those low moments, Is there other ways people can get in touch with? You? Get in contact with you guys as well. Twitter. Yeah, Twitter. There's we're all over, but you can go to the Web's uh, the Ferris wheel rock show dot com theme. The email That's the Ferris wheel show at gmail dot com. Fares with classic rock show on Instagram, Facebook and then, uh, Twitter. I have one final question for you two gentlemen, Ian, why do you work? I think it's, Ah, it's psychologically and physically healthy to have a certain discipline in your life. Three only reason why we're here. I think it's because our ancestors worked hard, probably a lot harder than we're working, but That's the other words. I think it's insane, and it gives you by the end of the day, it gives you a more of a greater happiness, a greater sense of peace and calm to know that you didn't I don't know where that comes from, but throughout my life, I've seen that the most happy or satisfied people seem to be those that enjoy their work in. Yeah,...

...we do a good job at it And don't try to beat the clock or sneak out. And all this stuff they try their best I have. No, that that's been my observation. What about you, Faris? Why do you work? Yeah, well, for on my professional career, I enjoy what I do. Because I, like I said, it provide people advice, information and guidance on certain products that they need to, um, protect their their personal belongings. And on the flip side, it also keeps your mind healthy, keeps you focused, and it makes you enjoy life because every day is always gonna be a new day. But what people say. How come you're so happy today? Because I woke up? God didn't call on me today, so I'm good so, I mean, I'm still gonna be around for at least another 75 years of what I wanna be. I gotta past three digits in life fares Kennedy, Dr Ian Clark, two of the three gentlemen for From the Ferris wheel Rock show. I thank you for your time that you have given me. And I appreciate the work that you guys dio Thank you, Brian. Well, thank you. It was very interesting in best of blood, Brian. That's a lot of Brian. And please keep in touch. Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, Follow and share with others so they too can be encouraged in their work. E I hope that you have yourself a productive, joyful day in your work.

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