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Episode 97 · 10 months ago

#97 Ferris Kennedy & Dr. Ian Clarke - The Ferris Wheel Classic Rock Show - BrianVee WhyWeWork

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Ferris Kennedy, Dr. Ian Clarke, and Steven Wheeler are the host of The Ferris Wheel Classic Rock Show Podcast. They are a 60s, 70s, 80s Classic Rock podcast that brings experience, research, entertainment, and humour to their show. Tune in and keep rockin'.


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"This award-winning podcast combines knowledge, humor, and reckless behavior, never apologizing, never repeating, always delivering the goods on what makes classic rock classic. The three amigos - Steven Wheeler, Ferris Kennedy, and Dr. Ian Clarke - risk their semi-professional reputations and interpersonal bonding to keep you informed, entertained, and intellectually shamed.

Three ill-equipped men on an unexplored, dangerous voyage into the dark labyrinth of classic rock and roll. We don't know the word 'trivia'. Everything is important. Listen in - and bring it all back to life!" (LinkedIn, 2021)

...welcome to why we work with your host,Brian VI ous. He speaks to people like you from all over the world as wetogether dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seeminglymissteps, hopes, warnings and advice which would be an encouragement to usall to get up. Get going on. Keep on working. Working is tough, but workingis good. Now, here is your host to why we work. Brian V. I'm Brian V. And thisis why we work today. Have the great pleasure of speaking with FerrisKennedy and Dr Ian Clark from the Ferris wheel rock show E want to findout from them today what music means to them and what music means to others.Join me in my conversation today with the gentleman from the Ferris wheelrock show. I'm Brian V. And this is why we work. Iam with two gentlemen from the Ferris wheel rock show, Ferris Kennedy and DrIan Clark. Good day. Fine, gentlemen. Good day, Brian. I'm doing wonderfully.I'm doing wonderfully well, Thank you. I appreciate your guys. This time. Iknow your other partner from the trio of you. Stephen Wheeler. He had anotherappointment And I'm just happy to have one of you let alone two of you, thatyou guys have a very good podcast on rock and roll music. Maybe one of you,whoever, uh, stronger of the two, I'm not sure would like to given ah, littlerundown of the industry that you're in with this. It's obviously the musicindustry. Um, but also, what is what is it that you're doing together? Well, what we do together way talkedabout a lot of our classic rock, and the concept came about in late 2017. Uh,Stephen and I were sitting down talking and we want to get a show going And wefigure, you know what maybe classic rock is are actually start off thisrock in general as we talk about music because we like different genres ofmusic. Forget about about eight pilot episodes, just the two of us. And inbetween that time I started connecting with Clarkey here, and I startedtalking about music and he really encouraged the podcast. And I said thatI said, when I get a couple of these recorded, I'll send them off to you and,you know, give me your two cents. And lo and behold, not even a split secondof a decision, I said to Stephen said, We we found our permanent trio, whichis Dr Clark, and we've been talking about classic rock music throughout 60seventies and eighties. And sometimes you touch a bit on grunge and I couldlet you clarky give a little bit more of how we get into depth of some of thematerial to come up with. We'll get into that. We'll get into that a littlebit later as you guys talk more about your show. But, Ian, what did you thinkinitially of fares coming to you with this idea? Well, it was interesting. I I have never been a podcast, although Ihad been on Radio. E used to work for the CBC as a writer years ago, and Idid a lot of campus radio, but I never thought of and then we just kind of hitit off and we're talking a particular segment ofpop culture, or mhm. 65 to about 82 is very narrow in many ways, but that'swhere my natural affiliations live. And...

...the rest of the guys, too you know you're asking earlier werekind of touched on why people work. I think you do something like this. It's not for themoney, Believe me, You do something like this because there's a passion andingrained interest. Um, in what you're doing and you like to be surprised withthe trivia, we do lots of trivia, and you never seem to get tired of it. You're you're absolutely right. And forpeople that may not know who you are, maybe we'd like to go down some memorylane. I mean, you guys go for 60 seventies and eighties, but what aboutyour youth? Ferris. What about for you? What would have been the very first jobyou would have had a man I had started off a za kidcutting grass. I had borrowed my dad's lawn more, which is a riding land. Moreback in the 80 was like a luxury to have one of those. And I was able Thioto cut grass for my neighbors and as that rolled into, you know, a goodincome as a kid under 16 before you could start entering the workforcelegally, I had done that. It was like a little bit of, ah, self employment. Andthat was How old are you? 12. Okay, 12 years of age and I started doing that.And then when I was 16, I got my first part time job at McDonald's, and thatwas fun to a certain point. Then I got fact, as you know, the food there, And,uh, then when you go to college and you kind of like girls, you kind of havetoe tell it yourself a little bit. So I left McDonalds and started working fora sports store. So I started dropping weight, and I started to become alittle bit more athletic, you know? And I just want to look, you know, or theFenderson pants. That was my main goal. So you don't have to wait. It's justthat if you want the girls to like you in return, that's that's the you know,zero there was. It's nice, you know, they look at the inside, but you know,the outside helps to once No outside gotta wanted to do that. And it workedout that I started working in retail. I started doing a bit of campus radio atthe college I was at on the Quebec side here, and it was always rated wasalways something in the back of my mind that I always wanted to do. And in theindustry at the time, it's not that easy to get in. And you talked a lot ofannouncers today. They say, You know, there was some dog days when it comestoe income and how to support yourself. So you have to also think of yourfuture. But fast forwarding, you know, from odd jobs into my passion, thevoice of radio, the passion for music that was always there When I was a kid,I would listen to Casey Kasem every Saturday morning. Rick Dees guys likeDick Clark, Howard Stern. You know, how could you not respect Hobby? Does hisinterviews, how he became the shock jock. Even Don Imus had someinteresting things that people could look up Thio. But I think a lot of theradio that I enjoyed as a kid is growing up in in Ottawa and listeningto guys like Steve Gregory, who was with Cool FM at the time. Carter Brown,who was known as Downtown Carter Brown, uh for 54 Rock and then 89 9 and thenkiss. He was just a Nikon to me, and now you know, listen to a lot ofclassic rock. I learned a lot of information from the guys that they'reon the radio right now, so it kind of motivates you to do more things and youcome up with ideas and scenarios. So...

...it's This is a passion, Brian. It'ssomething that I've always like. A love music. I love classic rock, grunge andold school hip hop and being within, I got to learn a lot more of and haveappreciation for sixties and seventies, and he actually got to appreciategrunge because of me. Do you Ferris have a full time job as well? Besidespursuing your passion? What is it? What what do you do full time? So for myprofessional career, where I go by my actual name, I I do insurance for aliving. So that's my professional career. Uh, that has been somethingI've been doing for since, uh, we're approaching 20 years now, and that'swhat I love about doing this show meeting people who, if they're not intheir passion in doing it full time. They also by responsibility anddiscipline keep going with another job. So I commend you on doing that becausemaybe you would love to be in something else. Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe aperfect 20 years. You're in industry. So you're doing that well, So I commendyou for the dedication that you're you're doing both things and doing boththings. Well, obviously, because you wouldn't be in the business. What aboutyou, Ian? And what was your first job? My first job was delivering morning paper at about 5. 30 in themorning. I was about 10 years old and I loved it. It was 10 years a morningpaper. And and that was that. When I tell my four kids, I tell them that'swhere. Really? Where Kind of a work discipline started. Because you're 10years old. You're all alone, and you have to getyourself up. Bobo us, right? And you have to deliverliterally. So why would they don't have those paper routes anymore. I know that,but it was a great start on my work ethic, so I went from basic way. He spoke alittle bit earlier about people. Um trying to get into ah, job that meetstheir aptitudes. I was always a little bit better for some reason in writingbeen most cool and it stood out. And as I went on intohigh school, I started to consider how I might make a living at this. Is thismy firm belief that you seem to be happiest in work if you follow any kindof little aptitude or gift, whatever you call it that you're given and eso Idid and I went into the marketing business in the advertising business. Oh, third, Yeah, five years Goto very fortunate that Ihad this little tiny aptitude for using words on paper and to create thingsthat way. I was very lucky. Yeah, and is that what you're into now aswell? Do you have yourself a full time job or No, I just ahead. I freelance and I do blocks mostlyunpopular culture and film reviews. I've reviewed motion pictures for mostof my law,...

...right, and I've been involved in thefilm industry in Toronto on along the way. I did a lot of radio stuff at theCBC, and, uh, but it's always been based onwriting. That's what's got me into. All this stuff is writing, you know. And soI was very lucky and that I for that I could do better than a lotof people around me, and that's taking me through. It made me a living, so I'm lucky. Then with we'll stickwith your podcast of the questions that I have because you guys work together.What is the process that you guys go through, say, on a weekly or bi biweekly basis? Seeing that there's three of you thatmust be hard, Thio collaborate and get, you know, relatively difficult to havethree people together on one show? No, it it works out well because of thechemistry and the characters that we are my personal character, plus mycharacter on the on the podcast. The only difference is, is the name reallywho I am on? There's where I am in real life and saying with Clarky, he's he'slike that. He's our musical encyclopedia. It works out well. Wecome up with concepts. We brainstorm a lot of ideas we have now. We're on ourfifth season, and in the fifth season we've actually introduced segmentswhich reflect to our characters persona. We got Ian's knock. You got Kennedy'syes or no, and we have Wheeler's vinyl reviews. So it's starting to reallycome along. And with those three segments, it's easy for each one of usto come up with the piece of material for that segment because it's your ownsegment and then the material that we're going to talk about on that showit rotates whoever is going to take the lead on the top we want. So, forexample, we did recording on by inhaling. I'm a big man handling guy.So I was. I took the lead on it CCR and took the lead on it. So were you guys at one point togethersay, before cove it are You guys usually recording separately? No. Werecord all the time together in Do you guys have a studio? My home. Eso Youguys live within the vicinity of one another? Yeah, We're about what, 10kilometers away? King? Yeah, it's close enough. We began at acampus radio station. I went to your website and I wasreading Thean Road. It's like, Yeah, I was, uh, a roadie for was it. JustinBieber in the road. Famous book. Shut up, you big baby. E was like, I GoogledAmazon. E was like, Maybe maybe this'll is a good book. What is it that you inGeneva on? What brings you some difficulty in being together, making apodcast, Especially in the genre that you guys have chosen, What is somedifficulty? But what is some satisfaction you get out of it? I think for me satisfaction is, uh,just being, um, kind of in a mini club with people. Are your conferencing asubject? That's kind of a common denominator. It's a hobby. And thatbrings you together from my own background. Writers usually works notthe most gregarious experience. So you almost welcome the opportunity to bearound people. So that's what kind of fuels may.

What about yourself? Their fears. Whatfuels me is after guardian when we get together. Um, but when we set our datesthat we're gonna record and you get up that morning, you shower your shade,you get dressed. Yeah. You start clearing your voice because you'regetting ready to record. You set up all your material. You get excited becauseyou know you're gonna you're gonna kneel. Another good episode, becauseyou always have to think positive. And we we got this chemistry that way.Finally, I'd like to say we mastered our time within the podcastrequirements. They always recommend 45 minute podcast You put all yourmaterial in after everything is done with our editing, we we've We'vemastered this science, and I get I get excited. I I could go on. You couldtell me we're gonna record for, like, eight hours, five days of 55 times aweek. I mean, you know, you tell me when and where I will make sure I havethe time available and we'll go and we'll hammer it out. Bring water, clearthroat halls, whatever you need. You just get excited. I get, like, this bigrush. When we used to do it, the campus radio. I think I was doing cart wheelsdown the stairs because I said we're going to the studio, Put on the headset,the microphone we're in and we're on our own little world. You know, youmentioned mastering and you didn't mention it as you grew up that you hadyour own show. What really grinds me, grinds my gears And that's because youwere just you were go getter. And not only that, Ian, you were the youngestto graduate from the Juilliard, which is why we call you Dr Ian Clark. It'snot. You're not Dr Feel good or anything like that. You know, you havetrue credentials, but and you mentioned mastering Is there something that, asfor the last five years that you guys had toe hone in on on a particularskill that you needed to work on, that you're still working on? Even with yourexperience, I think sticking in the in the in the realm of classic Yeah, Ithink, Yeah. For a skill you have Thio, you have to almost be a good editor, agood self edit. When we did our early podcast, whenever I detected a law orsomething going on the podcast that I thought would translate to boredom,almost we would edit that out, or I would review how that happened on wegot better and better, and the we the podcasts became shorter and we just gotmore. Um, we would smoothly you can predict,like musicians what they're going to say. And how so? We just got better at it because ofa camaraderie. You're going to say Farris. No, he hit on the head. We There was alot of dead time dead air. You know, you're humming and hiding in thebeginning, right? Because you don't know what they're going next. And nowwhat we tend to have mastered is get your liner notes. You have your points,what you want to elaborate on and we work on from our list and we like thewe like to discipline ourselves. I think that we follow a schedule of whatshows we're gonna do we if we're taking the lead on it. We definitely rehearseour timing of our segment because you don't wanna keep your partner, you know,waiting for him to give an answer. So we do some rehearsal. But like Ian said,editing is is key. And he's caught on with some things that we used to do inthe past that now the editing is almost flawless. Its's still some editing. Wedo, but it z almost flawless. And we're getting it right. It it reminds me I'vebeen watching a lot of comedy lately.

...just I have a newfound interest incomedy, and I was watching something on Netflix with Jerry Seinfeld, and it wasa show showing him how he goes through his process of developing that one hourshow. And he would take, you know, a joke here and there and pop into a club.Get five minutes, just five minutes time. Just give me that. It is almostlike a fiend, right? Just give me this this little hit. And then he did that.He worked on and he crafted it and he, you know, revising and getting throughit. And then finally in the end, and as you said, getting at those hums andthose Hawes getting those lol moments, reviewing, watching I watched anotherguy or any Adams who is not as funny, maybe, is, But he's really he's one ofthe hardest working guys in showbiz, that he's just crafting it out andtrying to perfect it the best that he can. And it sounds like that's what youguys dio and it's good advice for other people in whatever they're doing islook at you know, no matter what kind of job you're doing is to work outthose those down times those up times and see what works and what doesn'twork. And it might make your job a little bit more enjoyable. Thinking I e.I agree. I think that okay, people sometimes get not offended,but perhaps put out in a corporate environment, when you suggestimprovements, improvements can be made on anything,that's the idea. It's not a critique or criticism and enhancement andimprovement. And I think it's really important in a work environment to be,uh, receptive to that and not to personalize a big danger I've seen,especially with it tends thio impact younger people,but they personalize everything business. You will destroy your yourself if it ISS because business isbusiness and that's it. And that just seems to be the way it works. If youpersonalize it, you'll get hurt, especially in P places like advertisingwhere somebody might say, I don't really like what you just did there.It's not personal. Then you write something new, and you could say,That's great, Dad, isn't it her personal? Yeah, I heard that in reference toclothing. Someone said, Look at it, like wearing clothing you might bewearing Whatever you do, you did it improperly. You didn't do it well, thatthat's like an ugly shirt. Well, you take that shirt off, but it's not you,right? You can put a different shirt on. You can try something different, butit's not. It's not the character of who you are, even though sometimes it feelslike they're getting you at your heart. Speaking of other businesses and howpeople can do things well, Do you guys have some advice for people thinking ofgetting into, uh, cutting grass or delivering the newspapers? Someonegetting into work for the first time? You kind of touched on it Ian or peoplechanging their careers right from something that they're not very happyabout into something that might be a little bit more to their skills andtalents. Do you have advice for people getting in tow work or changing theircareer? Um, let's say I would go back. Thio. Giveit careful thought. Don't react to an emotional situation. Often you'll hear.Oh, my boss and me, I gotta get out of here. Yeah,well, the grass is always greener. Be very careful before you jump over thatfence because you might land in the worst place. Try it, want to do, and it's tough todiscover that. But that's that's the focus. If you want hold, that is afocal point. If you really wanna change environment, don't just jump to moremoney because you'll be among people who just want more money. It's not agreat gig. Your role would be the...

...do and you might be lucky, and youmight be able to do that. So hold off. Don't make it emotional. Make itstrategic. That would be my advice on. I would have to say, Don't ever leave ajob if you don't have another one guaranteed. Because sometimes intoday's market, no matter what industry you're in, whether it's entertainment,finance, insurance, you name it. You gotta have at least some securitybefore you start jumping that fence. And, like you said before you jump thatfence, grass is not always going the other side. So for those of you thatwant to get into an entrepreneurial venture or if you want to change yourcareer, there's nothing wrong with a bit of homework on it. And there'snothing wrong with asking advice on those who have been there before youbecause I find experience is hard to buy. And if you could get thatexperience for free and someone's gonna will is willing to give you that Thatthat knowledge and that advice take it thinking for those who have been therebefore you. It reminds me my dear wife likeswatching the crown. I don't know Netflix the crown about the queen andand last night we watched it together and and the prince Ah, Prince Philip.He was in a law, a life law, not understanding his place in life. Andthen, at that time, the the asked Armstrong and then went to the moon,and he was just amazement, like how wonderful these guys must have itthinking of the other side of the fence. And then they invited them toBuckingham Palace. And he was like he had some questions and these guys wereMawr interested in his job. Then he was more interested in theirs, and theywere more interested in his and he's like it was such a disappointment. Hethought, you know, that these guys would have all of life and life'sanswers, and in the end, they were looking to him in the same way that hewas looking to them. So you're right. The idea of grass is always greener.And and take take account of what you have before.You're just jumping ship to something else. Yeah. You're trying to detach yourselffrom the emotionality surround. It's not. You have to become a robot,but you have to step back a bit and say, Okay, I can always leave. But what'sgonna happen next? I can always get another. Okay, Did this or that? I can alwayswork, but what do I really want to dio? And if you stay in the same sectoroften companies are the same. I did a lot of work so you can work at IBM, Apple, HewlettPackard. What doesn't matter? There There is a symmetry to them all therereally is or and work for, you know, CNN, MSNBC orwhatever it ISS. And there's a symmetry to that. So jumping ship doesn't alwaysmake sense. Uh, the tabloids, but in reality, you couldbe in for a pretty tough right. What about Ferris character? Andmaybe even in the podcast industry of what is a top character trait that isrequired or even in the music industry, Because I know that you guys, even someof the pictures you guys, you've met some people. You obviously have donesome research on a number of people. What is a character trait that is mostessential, or at least top one for you? I think you have to be personal andtreat. You got to treat these. Um, however, if they're famous, used to gotto treat like because if you treat your good friend, you know, treat them likea friend because the end of day there, like you and I, right, they gotfeelings, got emotions, get to know them. You know, it's nice to beawestruck, and so look, there's Mick Jagger or there's Bryan Adams. But theend of the day, if you approach them and say, Hey, make my wife and I reallylike your your last album, you did. You...

...know, I see you're still in shape andyou start opening up the door with, you know, small talk. I think beingpersonal being yourself, Um, that's that's one thing I've always wanted totell people that I always wanna be the same guy that you see me a today is thesame guy. You'll see me two weeks from now when we when we talk again, right?That's what I was gonna be personal people, and I think for the podcasttrying to meet people If you be personal and be yourself and no, don'ttreat them as if it's their their rock star. I think if you treat them like ahuman being, you're going to get a little bit more of a better reactionwhere they might sit down and talk to you on. As for the podcast, the bestadvice for people that want to do it, I always think, is clarity andenunciation is really important when you speak unfortunate that I wasblessed with a loud voice that I could stand 10 ft from the other room torecord and you'll still hear me, I wondered you mentioned Don Don and withHoward Stern. I wonder if people would have thought so badly about him ifHoward Stern didn't crank it up first. Because I wasn't. Maybe I wasn't in thecircles, but just what was it private parts so on and where how were justsaying how bad I'm is Waas the the idea that I wonder in the character andgiving people a chance and understanding who they really are.Maybe he wasn't a nice guy. I'm not sure. But if if someone else doesn't,if you're not looking at the picture of someone else portrays, give someone achance and see what character traits that they actually have. What about you,Doctor? Mhm. Mhm Question was what again, character?Maybe in the music world, in the podcasting world, what character traitdo you find is essential, if not just important? Well, I would say you have to have acertain amount of resilience and that you've gotta work hard in the beginning,especially for nothing monetary. Reward it all. And you just have to You have to beyour own boss. I think a lot to life, you know, punching the clock,so to speak. They have a boss and they have memos, etcetera, etcetera. Whenyou you know, when you do these podcasts, you're an entrepreneur.Stores are the role home boss. They have their own bankagain for podcasting. A certain entrepreneurial flair will help you revoked mhm 23 businesses and eso. I've beenthrough that and it's a lot of work on the front end and then eases off alittle bit. So that's one in terms of this podcast. I'm grateful that it'sabout music. It's about something that I like and that I followed since I wasa little boy. When you have that kind of in a passion behind you, it doesn'tmake it work. It makes it a hobby. So that's the way I think of what we do.It's not Bobby E. I love showing up. Yeah, it'sinteresting how, regardless, if you make money or not, people might tag itas a hobby. But it's something you know they don't They don't tag charity rightas a hobby when you're not getting any money out of it or something. And I'mnot saying that you guys are not getting money, But it's quick to say mydear wife, sometimes, like, how much time are you spending? I really, reallylove doing it. Please back off a bit and I had a question that I mentionedup in the introduction about you guys...

...is what what does music do for you andwhat do you believe it does for other people. So you obviously have this lovefor music, regardless of the genre that you have in your podcast, your viewsabout certain musicians. But what is what is the core of your feelings frommusic, and what do you believe that does for other people? I think it. I think it lifts them upemotionally. Some people, spiritually, they turned to music. If you're goingthrough rough times and you know whether it's personal or professional,you could turn to music for a lot of things to help you get through it formyself. Unfortunately, no, that my childhood was was a good childhood thatI have tough times as a kid growing up. Sure, we all we all go through thosethose first heartbreaks. We all go through those first job losses orsometimes the offers that you're looking for, Didn't really, you know,come into fruition when you turn to music. E think it, um it reallymotivates you, and I'm a professional career for myself. I turned to musicwhen I was completing my professional designation, uh, in my actual careerfor insurance. So I was at the last exam that I needed. And let me tell you,it was a doozy. And I turned to music to motivate me before I would study.And then the days that I wrote that exam. And I know I remember that lastday when I wrote that examine, I knew I passed that I felt it. I blasted. ThinkBryan Adams. Summer 69 So bloody loud in my car. People thought I was crazy,you know, just so I I turn the music thio. It makes me happy, You know, evenyou work out. You always have to have music on. I need noise in thebackground. I can't function a day without my radio on. I need it. So it'smotivating for sure. No, Dr Clark, are you pumping out Bryan Adams to tomotivate you? E. O. On it is, I think music is spiritual. Ithink there's something about it that's spiritually. And when I was a littleboy, the was the music of the church. So maybe that's where it's grounded. Mymother used to play, uh, piano in the church, so I know all the old hymns andand jazz. Oh, all this stuff. That's where it started when I was like six orseven years old. Maybe that had something to do with it. But one of themost exciting things I know discovering a song this wonderful thathappened a few days ago. To me, it happens about maybe once a month, maybeonce every two months, and it's accepted. It's a spiritually moment. It lifts, it,lifts you beyond yourself. It's it's really exciting. And, uh, I couldn'timagine a world without music is just see it as a great unifier. It cutsacross politics. It cuts across economic situations. You could listento wonderful music from from Africa from the Middle East.It's all great stuff. When I was a kid, you couldn't. They had something calledWorld Albums, and that was pretty well, it now, especially with the Internet,it's really, really is a global village, and I find that exciting soda. I think music has a strong spiritualsspine to it, and that's what it makes it endure. Three minutesfluffy stuff that were recorded 60 years ago, and yet they had that magic.So that's for me, a spiritual essence.

I think it reminds me of why I do thispodcast and appreciating all of the gifts and the talents that people bringand the same way with music. If you have a love for music and you canappreciate, you may hate you know a particular song or dislike a song forwhatever reasons. But in some ways you should appreciate what the person wastrying to do in trying toe uplift or encourage, or to bring someone back toa memory in the skills that people have with their musical instruments or theirvoice. The writing talents as you're talking about Ian, all of those thingsthat there's a whole gamut of things you can appreciate about any genre, anytime any country, like I'm in Korea, I listen to music or hear it on the radiothat I have no idea what they're saying. But I'm like, I see what they're tryingto do there, and I appreciate the work they're doing. Do you guys have goahead? Yeah, I was gonna say it's true and and sometimes even if you go to akid's concert and at school and really sing, they sing off key. Theycan't keep time, but it doesn't matter. The idea of being is, but they'rereally enjoying themselves. The U Circle right? That's what it's about isit brings them all together. And so in that case, they'll remember that forthe rest of their lives is extremely important. Sounds like my life singingup T g not having any idea. Do you guys have it on overall goal for yourpodcast? Maybe individually? Or do you have a collective goal? Oh, we'd love to have her own morningshow one day that za long term. But I think we have a common common goal inthe sense that Aziz, long as people, appreciate what we do and if we couldprovide that 45 minutes of escape from reality and enjoy our humor and and ourknowledge on the classic rock genre Andi send us a few emails is to give ussome ideas of what you'd like to hear is a show that's that's That's the goal.We as long as people tend, Thio gives them a chance to To get out of reality,take 45 minutes and listen to the first real classic rock show. You had a badday, but you know what you know you're gonna get a good laugh for those 45minutes. It makes you forget about things that that we're not good thatday. That's what we want to bring that to people you know, bring bringhappiness to people and provide the knowledge and humor that we can. Yeah, I think you have a passion for something. Itcould be baking. It could be race car driving. You can always spot passionatepeople because they like to talk about their never quiet about it. So you see, howdid how How did the fishing go? Oh, the fishing in the go go on and on. But thefish he caught or whatever he did so the classic rock. We have a passion forthat type of music and that hopefully makes it contagious, right? Becausepeople will sense that. Yeah. Even though I'm not really interesting about these guys and that catches on, is there anything that people may notunderstand about the Ferris wheel rock show that you would like people tounderstand? So they tune in or even have ah, greater, deeper appreciationabout the work that you're doing. Man, I think for myself I think it'sConstand is an example for other people who would like to get involved withothers who share a passion. It could be a camera going to museum that if you doit, you will have a new enriched life because you'll be around people whoshare your passion. We are right. We...

...like to get together even in Cove. Intimes we like to get together. And that's when I refer to this. This'llpodcast. Sometimes we were guest in who share a passion, and that's what makesit interesting. I wouldn't wanna do it all alone. You know forever. You, likeThio interact people on Duh. That's what makes it awholesome, more of a healthy environment. Yeah, the solo shows are We do soloshows to do, obviously due to Kobe. But it's a big challenge because there's noStephen Wheeler that, you know, I put my jokes at There's no Dr Clark that Iget them all you know, riled up on something. Gotten you heard. That showsyou it doesn't take much to set us off, right? We have that. But it is true. Itis something that we like to show up. Thio, we definitely enjoy the conceptof it. We enjoy providing the history, the knowledge. We love it. It's classicrockets music. It heals the soul. You know, when you talk about it, you'rehappy. Speaking of healing, healing, the idea of adversity Is there someadversity that you have faced in your life that whether in your insurance,Ferris or in your writing, Ian, that it affects you, but you use? You can usethat as an encouragement for other people in their work so that they cankeep keeping on? Yeah, in my in my line of professionalwork, I'll sum it up in with very little information to provide, becauseyou gotta be careful. We talk about these things, uh, dealing with thegeneral public in particular, and it's tough you're you're held liable oninformation. If you want to provide to people, you want to make sure you givethem the proper information, and I find sometimes when people just don't payattention to what you have to say, or if they just treat you like you'resomebody else and they don't respect what you do for a living because theythink it's just fluff work. It's tough and you put yourself in a positionsaying, You know what? I'm better than this. So you get you build tough skinand you take that frustration during the day and obviously for me, I go tothe gym whenever the gym's open again, I go to the gym, I work out, blow offthe steam, and then you re focus. So for me, it actually, the more thatpeople get upset at me, it actually motivates me. Even mawr. It just don'tknow. It just charges me up. It's like, all right, I'm doing my So when I'mgiving you news, it's not always the good news, but I know I'm doing my jobright. That's what I gotta do. So at the end of day for me and motivates meeven more, it gets me excited. I I take that negative and I put my energy orsomething else. I will find a non article to write about for the podcast.I'll just take that energy. I'll take the negative energy turned into apositive, and I'll come up with some ideas and I'll call in and I'll eventand then I'll tell. That's what I just did you know, and then he's on thephone like 25 minutes with me missing his dinner. Ian. It was obvious. It'sobvious to both of us that Ferris goes to the gym. Isn't that quite obvious? I'm sorry that he what? Hey said, Well,when? When I get bothered by people, it's quite obvious. I go to the gym. Igo. Isn't it obvious that he goes to the gym? He's packing those pipes. What aboutWhat about you, Ian? What what sort of adversity may have you may have facedthat you can use for encouragement for other people? I would say this thatthere's a famous same in said by...

...philosophers, Right, Destroy me only makes me stronger, andthat's kind of hard line. But you know where he's coming from. Adversity cantoughen you up. You, ah, hard person. It can bring outrefinement in your character, and you don't even know it at the time. Andthat could be a off like going to a funeral or any kindof maybe losing your job. Whatever it iss Onley, in retrospect, in the rearview mirror. Do you realize that made me a little more focused andkinder to people who might be going through the same thing.Right When you're quite young, sometimes you're very judgmental. Well,maybe the guys having a really bad day. Maybe his pet dog is sick. Maybe helost his car. Maybe he's going through a divorce. I don't know. Isn't he's like that? I've known peoplewho are really dreadful one day, and you seem a week later. He's fantastic.So people go through things. So I you got to kind of give people a bit ofa break and hopefully they'll give you a break. You know, that's the scenes.But the way life works were not consistent. Animals screwed up and down in a Silla scope.And, uh, that's the way I look at people. You know. There's good days andthere's bad days. Is there anything that we haven't touched upon gentlemen,that you may want to throw out there as well? Some either advice for people orjust something about your show, something that's on your mind. Our show? Well, we have good. Westarted, started to get some good, good listeners, um, became friends and ourlisteners, they've joined our social media platforms. Um, we're streamingevery Wednesday on Cap City beats dot c A. Which is an auto A base, theInternet radio station. So they could. They could definitely tune in with thaton Wednesdays at seven. Um, but on our show alone advice, here's what peopletoe Take the Ferris wheel classic rock school and and have fun with it in thesense that, like I said, escape from reality for 45 minutes. You know,whenever you're having those those those low moments, Is there other wayspeople can get in touch with? You? Get in contact with you guys as well. Twitter. Yeah, Twitter. There's we'reall over, but you can go to the Web's uh, the Ferris wheel rock show dot comtheme. The email That's the Ferris wheel show at gmail dot com. Fares withclassic rock show on Instagram, Facebook and then, uh, Twitter. I have one final question for you twogentlemen, Ian, why do you work? I think it's, Ah, it's psychologicallyand physically healthy to have a certain discipline in your life. Three only reason why we're here. Ithink it's because our ancestors worked hard, probably a lot harder than we'reworking, but That's the other words. I think it's insane, and it gives you by the end of the day,it gives you a more of a greater happiness, a greater sense of peace andcalm to know that you didn't I don't know where that comes from, butthroughout my life, I've seen that the most happy or satisfied people seem tobe those that enjoy their work in. Yeah,...

...we do a good job at it And don't try tobeat the clock or sneak out. And all this stuff they try their best I have.No, that that's been my observation. What about you, Faris? Why do you work?Yeah, well, for on my professional career, I enjoy what I do. Because I,like I said, it provide people advice, information and guidance on certainproducts that they need to, um, protect their their personal belongings. And onthe flip side, it also keeps your mind healthy, keeps you focused, and itmakes you enjoy life because every day is always gonna be a new day. But whatpeople say. How come you're so happy today? Because I woke up? God didn'tcall on me today, so I'm good so, I mean, I'm still gonna be around for atleast another 75 years of what I wanna be. I gotta past three digits in life fares Kennedy, Dr Ian Clark, two of thethree gentlemen for From the Ferris wheel Rock show. I thank you for yourtime that you have given me. And I appreciate the work that you guys dio Thank you, Brian. Well, thank you. Itwas very interesting in best of blood, Brian. That's a lot of Brian. Andplease keep in touch. Thank you for listening to this episode of why wework with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, Follow and share with others so theytoo can be encouraged in their work. E I hope that you have yourself aproductive, joyful day in your work.

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