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#67 Nikita Chernin - CEO of 360 Creativity - BrianVee WhyWeWork

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Nikita Chernin is the founder and CEO of 360 Creativity. Still only in high school, he has started an online apparel and art supply company. His company does right by donating a portion of their profits to non-profit organizations in the help of making a positive social impact.

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...welcome to why we work with your host, Brian V. As he speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which would be an encouragement to us all to get up, get going on and keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now here is your host to why we work. Brian V. I'm Brian V, and this is why we work today at the great pleasure of speaking with Nikita Chernin. He is the founder and CEO of 3 60 Creativity. E was intrigued by this gentleman because of his age. I've heard a couple of his interviews online. He has reached out to be interviewed and I couldn't say no. I thought of all of the interviews I've done this far. This gentleman has his head screwed on seemingly correctly, and I'd like to find out more about him And what his drive is at such a young age with this 3 60 creativity. So join me in my interviewed today with Nikita. Turn it. I'm Brian V and this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure of speaking with Nikita Chernin. Good evening, young man. Hello. Hello, Brian. Good day. Now, I didn't ask you this, but I am going to ask because I am so curious. You had reached out through podcast guests, and I don't say that to say that you did this, but I didn't go out specifically looking for you. But when I saw of the people who wanted to be on my podcast, you stuck out, as I think, probably of the you know, 50 or 60 people that replied of, like, the top five. I would at least say but I highlighted you first as being like things persons interesting. And the reason and I could be completely wrong is because you seem so young and your drive to get on a podcast and you have websites and all that stuff we would like to get into. But how old are you, young man? Well, I'm only 16, so Yeah, good for you. Good for you. I think you might even be the the youngest person I have had I on here. My cousin, she just graduated from high school. I think she was the youngest. Up until you. So I mean, some people look young. Andi, I didn't want to assume maybe you were, like, 25 or something, and I was just way off base. Can you Nikita give just a little brief introduction? I did already an introduction to you, but just a little bit about yourself and then e like to say that people I want to take you back, so well, there's not that far back to go. So you're right. You're right. Pretty, pretty lucky compared to some other people. Um, so I'm My name is Nikita Chernin. I'm in New York. I have a company. It's actually right behind me. Arlotto 3 60 creativity. And that's kind of the biggest thing about me. Oh, I'm your humble too, because I'm sure there's lots of things about you, whether your guardians or parents. Someone would say, there's there's more to you than 3. 60. Creativity. So, Nikita, it you're right. So I would get people to introduce himself. They're going to tell me about their company or where they're working. And then I say, take you back. But the best part about you, I think is you are back there. You know you are 16. So, most people, what is the legal working age in the U. S. I mean, it might even vary from state to state, but it zero Well, I know personally, New York s o. R. Legal working age is, like, 14 for not dangerous jobs. And then they have, like, dangerous jobs, which they consider like, um, like mining and working with chemicals and stuff like that. And that's 16. So Z chemicals and stuff. Um, so this is great, because you, in my limited knowledge of you in the podcast that I heard you on before, you really have something set up. You have a forward looking approach about your life, and and I'm not saying I mean, if you were a little bit humble moment ago, you might even say, you know, you might like to play games and you like to act, child, I'm 40 something and I'm childish at times. So I'm not going to say that you have...

...everything lined up and put the pressure on you. But comparing yourself to me at, say, 16, you're doing pretty well for yourself, young man. And I commend you for that. But thinking I guess my question if if you have it, What was your very first job? What was the very first thing that you did? Andi? It may have been, you know, a lemonade stand. It might have been, you know, starting your YouTube channel or some sort of thing. What? What was your first thing that you did that? Maybe earned you a dollar? Yeah, Well, I think the first thing and like, biggest thing I remember myself doing our, um these we live in a very, uh, like big community of like people. And they all like to have these big, like birthday parties and stuff like that. And I used Thio when I was younger, do like magic shows. And I think that was, like, the very first. Okay, when you say younger, I do smile. But how old were you then? Are probably about, like, 10. So a 10 years old. So Okay, then when did not anything impressive? No. Like No, no, it's perfectly wonderful. No, no, no. I'm just wondering when when the magic started, when did you start practicing and dabbling in magic and Mm. Sleight of hand? Well, that's very interesting, because I knew I know that, like I like to consider myself as a big theatrical person I liked, like performing and doing stuff like that. Um, so personally for me, in terms of like doing magic, I didn't start that long before I started doing these magic shows maybe about a year before. But it's just that, like acting and all that kind of goes along with it. So So you start. What was the reasoning you just saw? There was a good opportunity with these birthday parties and parties at the age of 10 toe, showcase your talent or showcase yourself. Maybe mawr Maurin lines of what you were hoping to dio and were they offer money with. This is well, so there was. So I did several of them. So some of them were for money, and some of them were just for fun. But basically, I know that Ah, friend of mine had a younger sister and he knew that I was doing magic and knew very little about it. So I came and I did some things from there and then from the other parents and stuff from the show, you kind of they were like, Oh, we like you. Can you come to do this, do that and all of that. So the number of magic shows you've done Was there anything else up until 16 that you did besides 3. 60 creativity? Oh, yeah, definitely. Um, I usedto work at this company that we did like the science shows. And the whole idea behind is like teaching science through, like, just fun shows. So we did, like stuff liquid nitrogen and, like, blowing stuff up and stuff like that. And I was doing that basically all over New York City. And it also helps with their, like social media accounts and stuff like that. Okay. Is there anything else? Because I have a big question for you, but so your magic and, you know, doing things with science, which I think is amazing. Anything else before starting the company. I mean, I guess when did 3 60 starts. So it's not at 16. Probably. You're looking at 15. 14? Um, no, you're looking at September of 2020. So not too not too long ago. Just in September. September. I could tell you 14. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what I was thinking about saying 15 14, but I meant in your age. But on Lee this year, you started it. So is there any general after anything after science, working with science and doing some demonstration? Um, not for money, not for money. Okay, So, like, I mean, Nikita, you have more experience than a lot of a lot of people any age, right? Like you're starting like it's really amazing to me for And that's why I like to be able to ask you about it because you're still in the around the same mind frame. You're not too far removed. You can remember things better than someone who is 30 40. Looking back to when they were a teenager. You could just You're a shorter period of time. What is what is the drive that you have? What does I mean? Is it your family is It's something that you've seen or experienced to get out and to do shows you see a niche, you know, and you're brave enough with little experience to do a magic show when you only have been doing magic a little while to do a show in front of a bunch of kids who are,...

...you know, for birthday parties. They're not that far removed from you. If you're doing it at 10, right, because they're not one, you know, maybe too. But they're not that younger that much younger than you. And they could have been the same age and one or two of the parties. But then doing shows all around New York for your science shows and at the age of 16, starting a company in the middle of a pandemic in 2020. So I mean, a lot of kids are not doing that. A young men are not doing that. What is your drive? What's getting you, What's pushing you or what's pulling you? I mean, the idea that, like you could inspire people through your work is really a big thing. I know that, like personally living in New York City, we have all of these big, like theatrical stuff. We have Broadway right here. We have a bunch of just New York City is a big city. So we have a lot of theatrical. Nikita, are you exp experiencing that stuff like knowing that it's around right? Knowing that you live in New York is different than experiencing it, so are you having that ability? You know, if someone showing you this like, you can't just go buy a ticket off the money you're getting from a magic show. So just knowing those things is different than experiencing it and having some traction into the reason why you're so motivated. We'll definitely so, like through my family, I've gotten the chance to see ah lot of these things. And I see that like like this one person up on the stage, just 10. These 10 people up on the stage are influencing and inspiring these 100 sometimes 1000 people that are watching them in the moment. And it's like if they can do it and they're not scared, then what do I have to lose? These people are professionals. These people do this for a living. I think I'm doing this for fun. E don't have that much to lose. These people have basically their whole lives at stake. This is what they do me 10 years old. I don't have that much to lose. I mean, I guess a lot of people could have that attitude which, you know, some people could get themselves in trouble and say you know I ain't got nothing to lose. So what does it matter? But yours is on the positive spectrum of, you know, I should try this because what do I have to lose? And I think that's a very rare commodity for people to think that way. I Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I don't talk to enough teenagers or talk to enough people that you may think like that. How is it that you're able? Is this Is this really particular? Your family? That's Is anyone telling you is anyone you know, a close relative? Just besides seeing people on stage and your own desire? Is there someone I heard you in a interview, talking about a mentor? Do you have a mentor and someone that's helping you out? Someone is helping me out in terms of like, uh, more of the business standpoint. But in terms of like the personal standpoint, uh, I just have some friends and stuff like that that are really that air kind of super creative and just inspired me to keep working. I know that personally, I like doing theater. So I've done several shows and I have in common. I have this director that does most of these shows of me and her name is Sam, and she is very inspiring. And she just kind of, like, motivates you to do what you want to do and keep doing it. And these are professionals, and I know that's like, I'm not getting this. The advice from someone off the street. I'm getting this advice from some certified person. They have my back. They're not out there. Toe watch. We fail. Very good. Where you at? In school? At 16. You grade 10. 11. High school. So great. 10. Right now. Great. 10. Right now. And are you doing that all online? Now, is that how New York is working? Yeah. So we are all online right now, So we went hybrid for part of the year, and now we're just all online in New York. Do you have high school starting at grade 10 or is it a little bit earlier? So high school starts at grade nine in New York for, like, public high school. If you go toe Catholic and stuff like that, they changed up a little bit, so Well, I guess. Were you in a physical location last year? in great nine or is that still part of your covert experience? Well, I was part for part of the year, And then around March, we switched over to fully remote until September, where we kind of went to the building up until, like, the last two weeks of November. And then we started completely going online because we've gotten a lot more coke with cases in schools and just all over the city in general. So I really do want to get...

...into your company. But I want for people who are younger and even people who are older, that have younger Children or just to reflect on their own life. Where you in in your idea of your own personal education in, you know, being in great 10, being 16 years old, you have a future ahead of you. What's going on in your head? I know you have a company, but where do you feel that you are in school? What are some aspirations you have for the next few years, or maybe into college? Honestly, I feel that no matter what I'm doing with my company, my education is kind of really important because you never know what's gonna happen with this. But something like your education is like, whatever you could learn, it's not gonna be extra weight on you is just gonna add just gonna make you smarter make you know mawr and just be a better person in general. I feel that person I do very well in school. And, uh, I'm lucky Teoh be able to If I have any questions asked people around me, What was that, uh, with in terms of school and stuff like that? Because, like, I'm doing chemistry. And I have my two grand parents in Wisconsin that air chemists professionally. So it's like, these things have a good choice. Yeah. So people behind you is kind of really important, do you find? And this is not I have no idea. But the New York school system or whatever particular school system are you in the public school system Are your private in the public school? E don't know how good it is. And this wouldn't be a knock either way on it. But are you finding that in your education? How are you getting the for me? Growing up, I felt either I had my hands on my ears and not listening to why education is important. Are you getting that from your teachers or even from students as well, or are within your own drive and what you're seeing from you now is your getting that answer of why or is that even important question to you? Like, Why get an education? Why is this important? Or how are some of these subjects interrelated or connected? And they're all important for you? Is that being answered for you? Or is that something you're getting answered on your own? Or do you even care? You're just pursuing your own your own goals? Honestly, I think that that's the question that I hear come up a lot. We live in New York, and a lot of people are like, Oh, we have all these other opportunities. We don't have to necessarily go learn specifically like math or chemistry or whatever, and, um, but I feel that it's important and the people around me, like students and stuff like that. I'm in a honors program at, like a really good school. So we've been so I just know that the people that I like talk to in general all have the same ideas as me. And I think that's really important because if you were surrounded by negative, like negative people, when people that have negative ideas, that's not really stimulating to you. But when you have people that are always tryingto get better at this and are positive influences in your life, I think that's really good. Do you feel Nikita there? I mean, it's hard to compare one generation to another, but what sort of pressures do you have as a high school student? I mean, you're kind in the middle there, from great nine to grade 10 and with social media and stuff and you with a company and you're online and you have a presence. Is there a pressure within, Say, your own classroom or the school or just being a student online? Right, because there's a different pressure that comes there. Is there any pressure? Is there that we would do better as a different generation toe, understand your plight or understand, um, some difficulties that you might go through or, you know, some pleasures that you get out of being, um, in this sort of situation in this well, I mean kind of like the biggest thing starting. So I basically started my company in September like we talked about, but it's like I come back to school and, uh like I see these people around me have done a lot of stuff, but it's like the idea of like like, Why did you start in, like, the pressure of like, Oh, you're not gonna do gooder like Oh, maybe maybe it wasn't like the right thing like us. I know that personally talks some teachers. It's like it's like it's like like older generations, I think, see, as maybe not useful at this age that starts something like this because it's like, Oh, you're not getting the proper education or you're not like continuing your education or whatever, but I feel that, like, personally, for me, none of those were true because I've been keeping ah, healthy balancing between this and my education and all of that. But I think that some people might not see it as a healthy balance because everything is subjective. What might be a healthy balance for you might not be a healthy balance for someone else. Is...

...there a pressure among students? I know you'll have naysayers, but is there a pressure to be something on the Internet to be toe, have a social presence toe? Have this many followers Thio have this many likes? Is that a common thing? Because, you know, not many generations ago this did not exist. But now it's at the forefront where just the other day there's, you know, after the Taison Jones fight, there's well prior to it the guys that air YouTube stars starting to fight so and this is even bigger. Probably they made more money than what the Jones and Tyson fight made. And this is a really thing where people, you know, promotion and all that stuff. You can promote yourself as much as you want. So within a younger generation or in, you know, people your age, is there a pressure Thio be a presence to do something, whether good or bad. That's a really good question, because I know that around me. I don't see that much, but I know it exists because around me I see more of the idea of like like I'm in a position where I'm in like honors school with honors, and there's like classes and all that. So it's more about, not necessarily social media and things like that. But more about like like Oh, I made a computer program who could make it better than me or something like that. It's more of like a competitive thing. We're more focused on something like that versus something that it's just like, Oh, how maney social media followers do we have because we see it. I mean, at least I see it as not really consequential in, like, personal stuff. I see it like I have Ah, I have my own INSTAGRAM account. I have INSTAGRAM account for my company and a bunch of social media accounts for my company money, and I see that for my company is important. But personally, for me, I don't really focus on line. I look at some stuff. I post them stuff, but I don't care. I don't like compare myself to other people. I think that's interesting. It makes me wonder. Maybe you can pull it out a little bit better. I wonder if by having being so young and having your own company and having a presence on the Internet or on social media through your company allows you because you know the work that it takes. You know that. You know, there's a lot of work to put your stuff out there day in and day out and then tow. Want to throw your yourself also on social media, where some, as you kind of mentioned that you know of the pressure. But people do throw themselves up out there and people do want the likes, and people do want the followers. And if they don't have a product, it's their their own product. Then they may feel a bigger sense of pressure, especially when it's not a viable products. Just like how many friends do I have? How many followers do I have? And if they don't have a company like you or something that you know, it's a its external To them, right, it's more an objective sort of product that they have, that they feel a little bit more pressure. So if someone doesn't like them, it gets closer into the heart. And do you know what I'm saying? And how could you better elaborate on that? We'll definitely you're You're right, because I know personally, I have some friends and stuff that air there like like that They really think that it's something super important and in a sense it is up until a while up until, like a certain point, it's important when you could, uh, Thio show that you're popular and all that. But is it going to translate to anything personally in your life you're not. You're not making anything out of this I get if you are some kind of influence or something like that. But many of these people are just people off the street. I mean, anyone with a phone or anyone with Internet access basically could create an INSTAGRAM account Facebook account on Twitter account. There's a million social media platform, so I feel that it's important for for like, personal reasons. But in the grand scheme of things, you're not gonna be able to show this to anyone and say, You're not gonna be able to put this on your resume. You're not gonna be able to use this in any way is just gonna be like like, Okay, here I have this. I have all these friends and everything, But what is it translating to? I wonder if I mean maybe as a non er school or and there's definitely schools that are doing this. But some sort, of course, within, maybe even starting. I don't know of elementary school but middle school having students create a product and put it on social media and having them throughout the year. You know what, however it is? It could be someone else's product that they're promoting, but just understanding, you know, getting the idea off of them that the...

...likes and the followers air. It's not about them, but it's about the product and seeing the hard work it takes, it may lessen the desire toe need that following. But just showing how difficult it is for the product that they're doing so they can be one off from the thing that they're they're working on. I think it would be an interest. There's actually kind of like what you're saying. There's actually two things that come to mind with, like, programs that we have s O. I know in my younger brothers. I have several of them. So in there, how many brothers do you have? You have three younger brothers, so and I know in their elementary school they have this program where they like, design a product and they sell it and they have, like a little fair so but that's like after school activity. But I know that, like so my school's organized in different like section. So we have business, sexual law, science and engineering and things like that, a theater and stuff. So in the business section, they have this class called Virtual Enterprise, where they basically build a company and they compete against other people all over the world to, like, make the most virtual money in this competition of sorts. So those people are definitely getting that. But in general, I mean, I don't know that many people that have this program, so that is tough to implement it through, You know, the whole world, but help people. Yeah, not feel the need. So just just about the pressure right that it seems like in here of stories where you know, in suicide and all those things, because someone didn't like someone or some certain pictures were shown and and and it just unfortunate just if there was a way to get people thio to separate themselves from the need of whatever it is that shallow satisfaction they're getting from those likes and follows, and I think by what you're doing and what you said is by having your own business on there, you realize it's not. It's not a personal thing. It's You have something there that you can work on, and then you can step away. It's I think it's great. Nikita, do you have a plan for after high school so far? Is what is it you're you're in honors, honors high school. I don't think you're gonna just quit after that. Um, definitely not. But in terms of what I want to do, that's the That's something that's, like, been like working around. I don't know what I want to do because I have so many scattered interests per se. I have the interest of like like here's my company, look at all this and like that's definitely one way to pursue and try to do it full time. It is definitely the idea of doing going to college and trying to do some mawr conch e don't want to same or concrete, because that's not the right way to say it, but some MAWR technical or something like that kind of job something. Oh, there's the idea of me personally. I really like performing and stuff like that. So I could always have the opportunity to, like, maybe I want to pursue something like that. So for me, I'm very scattered. So I think what's gonna happen is that I personally want to go to college, just in case anything like so. I think my best thing is I'm going to try to send out as many applications as many places and then way my choices once stuff comes back to me, Okay? Do you have a few high? You know, your top three places or not even that. What program would you like to take? Our You're still looking at the arts. Are you looking more business? I'm still looking, but, uh, I don't know, because again, I have so money. Just like completely scattered like things like wanna sometimes like I wake up wanting to go into politics the next day, wake up wanting to be a software engineer, and you kind of can't do both at the same time. So it's not. It's not the easiest thing to do both at the same time. I mean, maybe there's a world that you can, but well, it's interesting because I watched shark tank and I respect it. I don't know if it was Mark Cuban or not, but there is a young child, young kids, you know, young man, maybe girl. And it was a few few of them that did it. They were really good, and they had a really good product and that a small little business. But they didn't invest in them because they wanted them to go to university first, right, because they were so young and they didn't want them toe make this product this thing. They're on Lee thing and then, you know, years down the road or whatever. However well the business would do is they could sell out, but then at the sell it off. But at the end, they would still be without that degree. And I'm not saying I think you hit on it, too. It's it's not the concrete thing to do, and I think that's what you're saying. It's not for...

...everyone, but if you have that ability to do so while maintaining your company on the side or, you know, letting it fall off the wayside. But venturing into something else. I think it's good, and that's what I respected about Shark Tank and those people there where they allowed the kids to continue to grow to see past this great idea that they had because even great ideas, they, the light of it, stopped shining eventually. I mean, like I know personally, the 3 60 creativity is in the remaining constant. Whether I prefer to do it full time. Let's let's talk about 3 60 creativity. Let's talk about that now. So what is it you do each day? And And what about your company that you would like people to know? Well, for one all kind of move away. So this is in the background, this kind of our logo and kind of our main symbol spoken Creativity is in everyone. Yes. Yeah, and we have the idea of inspiring people to be creative and inspiring social change. Those there are two kind of If you were to summarize what we do, these are top points of what we wanna do. Who is we, um, me. We have a person working for helping out with, like, social media management and we have a few people that we have a few people like freelancers that help out with our website because I know how to code, but not e can't do everything with it. Uh, and well, that's basically the immediately people that I work with. I works, brother. Not in that as well my brother is in for Yeah, I completely forgot to mention we have three people doing design work, like drawing stuff and all of that. So what is the process of your You have supplies and apparel? Is that so? We have art supplies in apparel, though there are two main things. And, um, the art supplies air kind of intersection of inspiring creativity. They go to like if you have a set of art supplies that's going to inspire you to start drawing to start making something. And the other big thing is our apparel section, and we have parts of our store that go to and we worked with different nonprofits, and part of the proceeds go to these nonprofits like we have. We worked with quite a lot. I know the biggest one that we've worked with. It's not on our site right now, but in preparation for election day we voted with. We worked with vote not or GTA. It's the biggest non partisan voting, voting, registration, like nonprofit out there. So where did you come up with this idea? How did it come into fruition? Oh, well, um, living in New York City. We see a lot of these murals and stuff like that, and I know that if this mural, whether it's something good or something bad, can inspire people to rally behind it like you see these murals of like politicians and stuff like that. It's like, Oh, here's this politician or you see this mural like a tiger and it's like, Oh, I really like this mural of tiger if it inspires someone to share it, if it inspires something Thio. If it inspires someone to kind of support a cause or learn more about a cause or something like that, then why can't you create it in a mawr touchable sense, like a shirt or brush or canvas or something like that? What is your parents, Nikki, to think of what you and you know your brother is probably doing? You might have your hands in it more than your brother does, but What is your parents think of this whole adventure, which it's It's only been a few months, but it's still a great adventure nonetheless. Well, my parents really supported. I mean, my dad is his own. He has created his own company in terms of shipping and logistics. He works in the Navy, but he does shipping all across the world, and he ships the's big containers of stuff. So he created his own company that does. So that is like they're behind doing that. Um, I think that they personally want me to do more, get more of a college education, but they're they're not opposed to me. Get it to me, pursuing this full time because they know that I could figure out how to do it full time. It's not like I'm gonna be struggling. Well, I think it's interesting. E mean there's teenagers find themselves in different phases in life, and this phase, just on the surface with your company is a pretty good phase to be in compared to the many other phases that some people...

...venture down into. So I can only imagine that your parents are, you know, optimistically cautious. You know, just like. Yeah, you can do it. We have. Ah, we hope it works out for you. But also, college is on opportunity for you in the future as well. And I'm sure that they're proud of you. A Zilong as you're able, Thio continue to keep your head on straight. Right? And not, I mean, be the CEO of 3 60. Creativity is a pretty big title for a 16 year old, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I think. Yeah, definitely. But I know that they have my back and they will continue to support me and all that. So what is what does your day look like, Nikita? What does a typical day look like even considering school and homework and all of that. So if in a peak day of doing some of your 3 60 work are contacting some of your employees and those people that work for you collaborate with you and school and some play, what does the day look like for you? Well, I know that I wake up around 7 a.m. every morning, and by eight AM, I have to be in school, like online in school, till about around 11. 30. So I have a pretty short school day, even though we do quite a lot of stuff in the school day. Um, and during that I mean, we have some breaks, like 5, 10 minutes. So if I get the chance, I'll go, and I'll right a quick text message to our social media manager and like, ask her what she's been up to. And if she has, like, done her, like if she has posted her posts and all that for the day, um, for the morning, because we try to do two times a day. Um, after school, I usually have a little break, do some lunch, and I get to work on doing most of the 3 60 creativity stuff s. So the first thing in major thing I do is check up on my brother and see that he's doing all the different designs and stuff like that because we have a constantly changing store. Uh, except for some things that air in all around. We just finished our Halloween. We went straight into Election Day and Thanksgiving. Once we finished our Election day and Thanksgiving stuff, we went straight into the holiday season and all of that. So we're moving pretty quickly. Um, I'm doing all that. The next thing is, I go when I check my check my email because I know that I have someone that helps out kind of monitor emails and make sure that it's not overflowing or anything. It's not anything urgent, but if I get an email that I need to respond to, I would get it forwarded to my personal email. And I would like I see Oh, I got a personal email from forwarded from 3 60 creativity. So hop onto barren check, check it out and talk to them. Um, most of the day between like two and four is spent doing the phone calls and different meetings, because, I mean, we talked to some pretty big companies and some pretty big nonprofits and stuff like that, and I wanna make sure that I'm doing it as correctly as I can. So I rather do five meetings with this company, even though they didn't need a single one, then not doing a single one in doing something wrong, so I'd rather waste more of my time trying to figure out what they want me to do. It exactly then, uh, do it wrong and getting messed up, because, I mean, these things air public things, and I want to show off the best side of myself in my company. Through my work. I don't wanna give anything off. That's not the best. So, like, I know our biggest thing recently was with vote dot org's and I would go to them and I would send them email of the far designs. And then I would go on meetings and then, like they were like, Oh, it doesn't fit with our color scheme because they have a very specific color scheme that their brand complies too. So we change it up and stuff like that, so I really don't need any meetings to do it. But I feel like it's so much better to do it with meetings because I personally don't want to mess anything else. And these brands air not necessarily like open toe having all these meetings and stuff like that. But I know that I contact these in this one person. This one person in this company is probably likely to come and help me out, and we could talk and stuff like that because it's good for them as well. It's a mutual benefit. They're getting more exposure and they're getting some money. And I'm getting more exposure from their from their partnership ship. And I'm kind of like developing mawr of my brand and its personality. If I didn't have all these companies behind me and these nonprofits that we work with, it would be really hard to kind of inspire our message of social change. We felt showing that you do any social change. I think that, like the biggest thing that you're doing, social change is...

...actually kind of going out and doing it. So it's like the very first day that our company launched contacted some local people in New York, this local nonprofit and with all the profit that we made that day, we bought this homeless shelter bagels for the next week. So it's like it's a pretty amazing thing that you could you could do that off of, like, basically nothing, and it shows the people that follow you, other people that listen to you that like oh, you're out there and you're actually doing it, so if you guys could do it, maybe I could do it if this big, it's not even big because we aren't big. But if this I think people see companies as bigger than just individual people, so it's like if this group of this company could do it, then I definitely can't. Nikita Still wondering about your day But just often aside, how is it you're getting the gumption to ask these individual people within the companies? And is Are you nervous? Are you you know, is is that a hard thing to dio? Do you find that it's I'm getting easier? It was much harder, especially at the very beginning when you because we start talking to these people before we had anything and like you don't know if you're gonna like completely failed. So it's like, What are you offering them? Because these partnerships kind of like you have to offer them something in return. You can't just be like like we're going to take this, and if they see that it's not worth it for them, then they're just gonna be like, No, we don't want to do it because they have better stuff to do. Wear small company there, watch bigger than us. So you kind of wanna offer as much as you can to them. So it's been getting a lot easier contacting them and talking to them, especially when you have like, Oh, look at this. We partner with these people, we partner with these people. Look at all the people that are behind us. Yeah, if they could get behind this thing, you could definitely get behind This is well, so after four o'clock, what does your day look like? Um, so after four o'clock, depending on the day, I do some chess lessons because I feel that, um, it's something very interesting and I like to do it, and I play quite a lot of chest in my free time, so that is kind of try to do them on Thursdays and Friday. So that's kind of for our I sit down and I learned chess and practice like theory and different things like that. And then after about 5 p.m. I'm kind of free for the day. I don't like if I have anything homework related or anything like that. I try to finish it up then and then six PM It kind of gets a madhouse in our house where everyone is home, and it's kind of like it's no longer your time. It's everyone's time. So it's like you want to kind of clear out your day as much as you can before then because after six PM, it kind of gets a little crazy. Uh, Nikita, as I assumed, I mean, as I thought when I first, you know, just reading about you like you seem to have things lined up really well and it zvehr e impressive. So what time you go into bed is this very late? I mean, you're getting up at seven. So are you getting e trying to go to bed as early as I can? I'm these past couple weeks. Not not. That's not the best, but I think my early is around like nine PM I try to be in bed because it's it's pretty early, but I know that, like I'm going to bed at 9 30. I fell asleep last night reading my kids a book at I think it was nine o'clock. So that's good. I mean, like, yesterday, yesterday spent like much weight. I was up till 11, and like some days, I go off a little bit more, but I mean, nine PM is usually my baseline because I feel like if I need to get up earlier near if I go to sleep at nine and I could get up earlier. But if I go to sleep later, I might not be able like seven is like the latest I could get up because I need to, like, eat breakfast and doing all this force You could get up earlier if if you get if you go to bed earlier, you're you're probably more able to get up a little bit because I know like, a few weeks ago, because we don't have a company phones. So if I ever need anyone to call me, I have them call my personal cell phone, which, in retrospect, doesn't sound like the smartest thing to do. But, um And like I was talking thio this guy and I get a call at three AM in the morning, and it's like I'm not prepared to be talking about this at 3 a.m. In the morning, but I accidentally actually left my phone on my desk instead of leaving it. I usually leave it like downstairs because e don't like it. Really? Yeah. I don't like it next...

...to me, but I left it on my desk accidentally, and it just happened to be right time. And it was this guy from L. A that I was talking to previous to the to do a little collaboration and stuff like that. And I mean, personally, I think it's not gonna go anywhere. But he called me and because I went to sleep at nine, I was able to Even though it was for 15 minutes, I was able to get up and have this conversation. If I went to sleep later, I probably would have missed that conversation completely. And not that it's him. Not that it wasn't that. It is an important conversation now, but looking back at like like looking at the time, I probably viewed as a very important in conversation. This is like two weeks ago, but I can't even remember. But I probably viewed as important conversation someone. It's not every day someone calls me at 3 a.m. in the morning, so yeah, you don't want that to be a habit, Nikita, just thinking through the day that you just went through. Are you finding you have generally Cem pressure about your job or the things that you want to do? Or do you find that you know you have a pretty balanced out? Just, you know, a regular teenager going through the things that you so choose toe have in your schedule? I think it's a mixed like right now. I think it's fine. But once we like. A few weeks ago, if this conversation was happening, probably last week, I would have had a very different the answer because we were in the process of wrapping up our things, giving stuff, starting on our holiday stuff stuff and working with all these different companies and managing like, Oh, here's our designs and I want to make it look as best as I can And then it's like like Oh, like our suppliers like, can't ship out these orders before this date because it's not gonna arrive. So it's like it's like it's the stress that comes around like certain times of the month in certain times of the year. But overall, I think that it's been pretty fine. The month of like like November is kind of hard because we just finished Halloween and then we this year, especially. We go into our like Election Day season and eso we had, like, a little outcrop in the beginning of the month. And then Thanksgiving's right after that and the holidays there right after that. So it's like November was pretty jam packed. But, like, right now I'm trying. I'm just like I'm looking for more work to do. Za Amazing. Where is the majority of your sales falling is ITM or on the apparel orm or on the art supplies? More on the peril. But I think that's just because, uh, there's something like apparel ISMM or, um, how can I say every, like evidence or something like that? E don't even know the right word because manageable Tangible. Yeah. Yeah. More people need a shirt than need a brush. Paintbrush? Naturally. Yeah, naturally. I was expecting it to be higher. It wasn't like something. Oh, my God. I didn't realize that it would have been hired, but I mean it zits. Not a small amount of people buying our art supplies and stuff like that either. So well, I know like merchandise could go well, and I have it right here looking at my other screen. Some of the shirts, you know, the shirts look comfortable that the T shirts look comfortable. They look like nice, good quality. And then you guys have some humor in some of the things that you're doing, too. It's not. It's not just, uh, particular fashion, I mean, and it's not that it's not fashionable, but you're adding your own sense. Maybe with your brother and other collaborators. Um, your own style to this merchandise is their reasoning. You guys have a method behind what you're doing? Yes. Um, these kind of stuff are not in really intended to go to someone who is 80 years old. I'm not saying that it can't be given to them because it's open to anyone. I mean, not that you guys have some nice cups, right? Yeah. Coffee mugs and T mugs, Whatever. Whatever You want to drink some cocoa. So those sorts of things, Yeah, we have quite a lot of stuff, but I think personally that, like, um, it's more intended for younger generations because these things that were kind of promoting and like, you know, especially in our social causes tab are stuff that, um it's like if you're 80 years old, e climate change is important, but it's your it's not gonna be what's affecting you. You're not it zits not gonna be like the thing that you're gonna be. You could go to your deathbed in your and you could be like, Oh, I didn't do that much to support, to support, like fighting for, like, more climate rights or stuff like that. But, um, I think the majority of people...

...in older generations aren't as much concerned about these types of things just because it doesn't affect them when something doesn't affect you, it's kind of really easy to have that go off to the side and, like, not a big priority. So I always viewed it as it's something for younger generations. So I mean, like, there's definitely things that, like, for everyone we have, we partner with a company called Gamers Outreach and yeah, they mainly support kids through gaming through in hospitals and stuff like that, but they also do support older patients. But I think that, like if you're buying one of our gamer shirts, you're probably not gonna be an eight year old Grandma? Certainly. No. You do have some very nice and I recommend and you'll sell. Tell me the website in a little bit, but for people to go to the website to check out some of the merchandise and to buy it I mean, it's especially now you mentioned the Christmas season is coming, which is obvious, but you guys air ramping up some of those sorts of products for Christmas. But a lot of the products are not seasonal, restricted to a season. They're just everyday clothing that you can wear with good designs. What is some satisfaction that you get just the last three months and and being eso young in the business? What is some satisfaction? You're able to get out of what you're doing? I mean, I think the biggest thing was on probably our second. Yeah, on the second week of opening up the business isn't this Like I said on our first week, we kind of use the sales from our 1st 23 days to buy bagels for this local nonprofit, and I get a phone call from the guy that I was talking to to do the food because it's like a big nonprofit and they do like foods the and they have a person organizing it. And he called me and he's like, we gave out enough bagels for everyone on the line and we still have some more left over for tomorrow. And I think that is the most direct impact that I see, because I mean, I know that like we're giving money toe Oshie, Anna and all that, but I don't work with. I don't see their impact every day. I don't live near where they're working. I don't like I can't walk to their headquarters and go talk to them. But something like Project Hospitality I know throughout the years like they do. They didn't do it this year, but they they did do it this year, but without volunteers. But they do like a Thanksgiving like the festival and feast for homeless people and people that just don't have enough food to have a Thanksgiving dinner. So I know personally, I went to them, volunteered with them before, and I see these impact of what we do, and I think that's really inspirational. It's like, Yeah, we sell these like, amazing, like funny Christmas stuff, but if you if you look mawr. And if you look even after Thanksgiving, stuff for Thanksgiving collection was all supporting habitat for humanity. Ah, worldwide organization that works to stop homelessness, make sure no one goes hungry. And I don't see these impacts firsthand because I'm privileged not to be experiencing these problems. Uh, so I dont possibly know what it would be like if this organization went to me and talk to me and helped me or said that the through 3 60 creativity, you've been given food today. You could eat for another day or in like with our gamer outreach Through 3 60 creativity, you've been given the opportunity to remain happy even though you have something like hamster, which is like you might not like. You don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow. The game or outreach supports Children that air in hospitals. Those like combating the worst things, like the worst thing that could possibly be if I have the privilege of being on a zoom call with one of the people that because they tryto like work with one patient that not one patient at a time, but they try to like, like this organization helps support this patient, and this organization helps support this patient. And I've talked to the person that is receiving the money from our shirts, and I know I can't say no what they feel like, what is going through. But I know that what we are doing is definitely inspiring them to continue being happy and like, continue, like trying to be the best that they could be and happy is they could be, even though they're going through something that no person should experience. I think you have, ah, good business model going here with helping with non profits. But I think it's It shows by just your answer of satisfaction that you get that you have an actual heart to help these people.

And I think that's because a lot of businesses say Okay, we gotta help this or even people individually. We gotta help this because it looks good, but you're also acknowledging because it's the right thing to do. It's definitely the right thing to do. I mean, like, just because you're not going through these problems doesn't mean these problems don't exist. These problems air here whether you see them or you don't see them, and you might be lucky to live in a place that you don't see these problems or you might be lucky to. Not even that you live in a place they don't see these problems, but that you are so far progressed beyond these problems that they like. You could see it on the street and think that it's like, I think I don't know e just don't even know what What could you say that you know, it's It's good. I mean, if you don't know it, some people just turn a blind eye to it, but it's a good habit to get into, and I think you're showing it. I mean, especially at a young age, and you're starting a company and you're able to recognize this, and then it's only going to be a habit for you all through your career. What is some stuff? Maybe people don't understand about the work you're doing that you would like them to understand or about you in particular, that people don't understand that if you gave them this little nugget than they would have a better appreciation of you, Nikita, right? Mhm. It's a good question. Uh, I think that many people don't understand the idea behind 3 60 creativity. And that's kind of, um, and it's not even the point of like like the nonprofits and like that you're giving money to these people but to these people in these places. But I know another big thing is like, Oh, you're working with Earth Justice. The team of lawyers that help protect basically like like fight in court battles, protecting like environmental laws and implementing more environmental law. But you run a T shirt business that produced his T shirts that are probably the biggest pollutants on the planet, and it sounds kind of oxymoronic, and it's like, Oh, you're supporting them But like you're doing this, but something that many people don't understand that we've been trying to showcase this as much as we can through our work is that we don't do that. I we recently wrote a block post kind of explaining everything that what we how we produce these shirts and pants and cups and all that is we produce them in a way that is sustainable in in a way that, um, they're printed individually so they're not being stored anywhere where they're printed in methods that that supports the earth. And we're trying to go go net neutral, which means just not to produce any co two or anything like that in the next year. And I think it's definitely something that we could do sense of right now. I think we're at 5% carbon emissions, which is kind of really low, considering, um, it's a pretty big company. Um, what do you say, Nikita? Not Thio totally interrupt you. But the idea, because there's a push. I mean, you mentioned politics. You mentioned a few things which I think you're great for your age, Andi. There even over my head. So three idea of being totally 100% environmentally friendly versus being environmentally responsible. Where you falling on that spectrum, which I mean, you're you're doing your best to get your emissions down and all that. But practically speaking, you know, we could have ah t shirt made out of paper that has biodegradable but practically that's not gonna work for a T shirt. So where you finding yourself in the reality of especially owning and operating finding being the founder of a business that wants to make money and wants to make a profit. So it's, I think, just by my question, you could tell that I think being responsible is good, uh, to be mandated to be 100%. You know, environmentally friendly is unlikely just by the nature of making products. It's your right. And that's kind of where I was like alluding to the fact that it's impossible to actually, um, to do it. It's almost impossible to do it. But if you could reduce all your carbon emissions and not be emitting any carbon, if you could make it, produce your product with as least packaging as you can. Obviously you're not gonna put a shirt and you're not gonna have a packaging. You're not gonna have a shipping label and give it to your customer. That's not how it works. You need a box and stuff like that, but we try to make it as we try...

...to make our boxes specifically out of biodegradable material and stuff like that, that we it's really hard. But when you try, there's a lot of different alternatives, and yes, they won't save the money. So if you're going to say to trying to save money. You're trying to make as much profit as you can't. They're definitely not the way to go because there's much cheaper alternatives to it. But that doesn't matter, because if you're doing, if you're showing someone that's like You're trying to do one thing and you're doing the complete opposite, that's not a good way to be shown. And even if nobody knows about it, kind of puts on like a thing of your own. It kind of like self guilt of like like I've been lying to all these people about what I do. It's like That's not great. Some people's. Some people see their consciousness, so they don't really think of it. I mean, they may know it, but they don't care. But I think what you you have a tender conscience and knowing thean packed that you can have on people by your your profits, your nonprofits, that you're giving to your giving your profits to the nonprofits and by having at the forefront of your mind to be is environmentally friendly as possible. I think it speaks volumes of you. Nikita, How are you staying? Productive. I mean, you're a busy, busy young man and you have a lot. And you even said I could do some Or so how How are you staying productive? What's what's what's driving you? Um, so it's driving me and what's making me stay productive or kind of two separate things, So I'll tackle one of time. So what's having me stay productive is organizing. Ah, lot of organizing. If you don't organize anything, then you can't be productive because even though you might waste five minutes where you getting the idea of organizing yourself, you don't just wake up one day. I know the A lot of people would say things. They're just random. Um, but things were pretty organized in this world. So you didn't wake up one day and just say, Oh, organization is good. Where you getting that? Is that like a mom, Your dad, Your grandfather? Like, where? Where is this coming from? The idea of being organized or in school? Well, I know a lot of my family likes being organized, and that's kind of like their thing for being organized. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So it's not the easiest thing Thio Thio be organized, definitely something that you should try and I know that I am really bad and organizing, but even taking the like like if I have a schedule up, if I have something like like like the world, like things I need to do, even though I might never User might never cross it off, which happens a lot of the time or might never like, adjusted or edit it As my day goes on, A t least I have it there and it makes me feel like I'm being organized. And even this, like placebo effect of me feeling organized makes me work more productively. I don't know about it with all people, but I mean me just having a schedule up. Even though I might not edit the schedule forever, it makes me feel like I'm being more organized and therefore making me more productive. Absolutely. And then the next thing was motivation. Yeah, yeah, motivation for it. And again, I don't want to repeat myself over and over, but I'll kind of give it a short run now. But again, it's just seeing these people in talking to these people and seeing that what I am doing is helping them, and I think that's very motivating motivational. And, yeah, I might not turn out to be the best, the most sustainable way to run a business. But, I mean, if you're not running it, if you're not doing something good by running it, then what's the point of running it? I feel personally, I mean, people are gonna say other things, But personally, I feel that if you're not doing something good, then what's the point of doing it with your organizational skills and seeing your on a computer? What is it, a tool that you use that keeps you efficient or most efficient and helps you do your tasks each day? Um, you've probably seen ads for it everywhere, and I've kind of fallen into their advertising scheme. But the sauna, its's to a sauna. Yeah, a C A c A N A. Okay. It's a planning tool for, like, teams and stuff like that. Um, and a kind of what they do is they work is based work management software, and you could make like, calendars and graphs and stuff like that. And I use it with some, like my brother and stuff like that, and which kind of just organized as much things as we like know about onto there. So it's like like everyone knows that I have a meeting at this time at this date, so I don't miss it. And then everyone knows that our deadlines for having holiday designs and is this...

...today And if they're not turned in this day, then like like that's That's bad because they need to for the next person toe, upload them and then have everything ready for our site for the for the next day. For our social media team to post, it's like to change if one person doesn't do it and the next person doesn't do it. And something like a sauna is really good because they send you constant emails telling you it's like you are doing it or that's great, You're doing it and it's I think it's a really easy tool. I mean, we started off using, like monday dot com, and that's another big one. They also have a pretty big marketing thing. Think personally, I didn't really like it, so I mean, the best part about doing things like this is that they're super easy to transition to back and forth. So it's like you won't subscribe yourself from their mailing list. You move onto the next one, and I think it's working out for us. Nikita, thinking of my listeners and thinking of yourself, getting into magic, the age of 10, right? Doing some science presentations later on and then starting your own company, now at 16. But also even people are older. Maybe experience that with some relatives or people that your family knows of changing careers or getting in tow work. Do you have some advice for people as they start their careers or change into something else? I think the best thing is, um, kind of continue finding something that motivates you and continuing to follow on that path and continue having something behind you that motivates you. It might be something small mole, or it might be something big. It doesn't really matter. But as long as you have something that motivates you, I think that's a really good starting point to launch and like anything to start on any journey. If you don't have motivation to start it, then why I started? Um, I think the best other thing is having a group of people behind you having someone to help you along having someone to be with you or something like that. So, e think those air the tube kind of biggest things. If you wanna start anything whether it be something bigger, something small you always wanna have motivation And someone behind someone behind you. Someone toe work with someone you know that could help you. Nikita. You mentioned chess. And I know you mentioned you have a big family with brothers. How do you keep your and you mentioned after, what, six or seven o'clock? It's It's more family time. How do you keep those your your work. You know, whether it's school work or your job separate from playtime or enjoying time. How are you able to turn it off? I mean, you even mentioned answering the phone at 3 a.m. So how are you disciplining yourself, even at this age to say Okay, I need to enjoy myself and not think about my company or take a break from school. I mean, it's much easier said than done personally, like I know, you know, like I could you could turn off your phone and you stuff like that, but it's like you're always gonna fall back into the habit of going back and checking at it, looking at your emails or whatever, because it becomes their these systems, they're made to be addictive. But, um, what I like to do is, if you put them far away, they're kind of like like, if you don't see it, if you don't like a mind. Yeah, basically, except that it's still always in your mind, which is that it's not gonna be at a point where, like, I could reach out my hand, e could reach out my hand and, uh, grab it so that's like, if I can't reach out my hand and grab it and I need to walk somewhere on grab it or like, do something more, have toe like, Do you like to play? Do you like to go out, play a sport or go play with friends? Or what are some other things you like to dio wanted to be with friends in terms of sports? Not really kind of my things e really like to do go for walks or anything? Yes, sometimes I mean I mean, we're not far from like a beach and a bunch of parks and stuff like that, so definitely going on walks. But I like being outside like but not really doing sports and things like that. That's not my style. Knowing your your time frame is shored. There's not many mistakes you would have made in a career. But is there a mistake that you might have made or something you wish you would've known, even from this short of time that it would have helped you a little bit mawr? Or if you would have not made that mistake, you would have been a little bit better off. Is there a lesson that you would have learned from one of those? I think it probably like the The most important thing that I've learned is to, um, kind of not. It's going to sound kind of weird, but not reveal all of your cards or something...

...not reveal of your cards too early. Um, in like a lot of like talks with a lot of different organizations and stuff like that, that, um, you as a person that comes to them since many of the people or people that I come to personally, I always start off with a disadvantage because I'm coming to you. If I'm coming to you, that means I'm already looking for something. So but you keeping as much like, um you try and offer since sound weird, but you're trying to offer as little as you can in the beginning. And working your way up is always the best way to go, then giving everything out at once and hoping that that is enough. You must be tough on your parents. E Uh, can I have five bucks? How about 10 bucks? About about 50? Well, like well, something like that, they would probably go in reverse. You were trying biggest and work your way down, but something like in negotiation, you could be like like, Oh, like we could offer you this. It's like it's like, Okay, instead of saying we could offer you this, this and this, if they agree to just this one point, that's better for you. Not that it's not that you're being greedy or anything like that, but it it makes more sense if you negotiate with something that, like something lesser than starting with something big, and I know at the beginning it's like like kind of the first things like you throw all your cards at them, it's like it's not the best way to do it because it's like if they say we want something more, what are you going to give them? But if you slowly work your way up, and even if you're offering them the same amount of stuff, it feels so much different. It's kind of like the idea, like your burger is playing tricks on. You feel so much different when you're working your way up and you get a good deal or this person could just like you could start off at a good deal and keep that good deal. It's like same thing is happening, but you feel like the person feels like they're getting a better deal that, like the way of like we're working their way up to the deal instead of like giving business. Yeah, yeah, it's business. Nikita and I think you have shown it through this interview. But can you comment? Especially being at the beginning of a career is the difference between character and career. Some people tend to strive for a career and not really care much about the character that they bring with it while other people, which seems like you're starting off on the right foot, is putting your character first and then going after your career as you always have and the forefront of your mind what you should do that is right for the people that are involved. I think, personally, I know it's not gonna be the answer for everyone, but I think personally your character is gonna be better because you're gonna be You might not get as successful, but you'll know that you you were doing the right thing. Like I know the example that I like to bring up is something like the war acts. It's like I don't know if you know, the story of the war acts. But Dr Seuss, Yeah, Dr Seuss's The War acts on kind of the ideas. There's this business man and he has this idea of, um, selling this like, like thing that grows on the trees and like making a product out of it. And he builds up his company to such a big point that he doesn't have any more of these trees left. And he just, like, ruins the whole forest and all that and what's kind of absurd that you think about it. But you look at these companies and stuff like that that are kind of putting off. The same thing is like it seems so comical when someone like Dr Seuss wrote it. But you look at it and like there are companies out there that are destroying, like the rainforest and stuff like that. It's like it's like you might not see it firsthand, but it's definitely something that's happening again. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A lot of those chemical companies are also destroying people with their their medicine as well, right, some addictive medicine that they're thinking off. It's not about the person that's actually, um, we work for a nonprofit called Earth Justice that their whole thing is like they do their group of lawyers like by nature, and they try to do these cases that, like like against the chemical factories, for dumping this stuff, not because they're only hurt, not because it hurts not only because it hurts humans, but like the environment as well, and they protect like rain forests and stuff like that. But I think character is so much more important because again, you could be a successful as you want. But people are gonna know that you didn't do it through the right means. And it's not the best foot to to show when you're walking in. People know that you've done all these horror. It's like...

...that's not a good sign to show its e were your other show that like, Oh, I might not be as successful. I might not be as great, but at least I've been like like at least I'm a good person at least have been chosen your character traits. You mentioned putting your head down at night, saying that you did the right thing and that that is more important than having your career before your character. A couple more questions. Nikita Thinking of people, especially You're in a state that's been hit hard by Cove, It, uh, the world and pandemic, and just people that may be discouraged. I'm not sure where to go, where to turn in terms of work. Do you have any words of encouragement for them? I mean, you have a great perspective on Duren, a unique time, and I guess everyone is but you're at a point of being 16. And you know, the world is your oyster and you have so much ahead of you you would have some insight, I think, into some words of encouragement for people, no matter what. Eight there. I mean, uh, kind of the biggest thing is just looking for opportunity. I mean, you might not get accepted to everything that you're trying to do. You might like you might be turned down for something. But if you just keep putting yourself out, then you're going to get something in return. Uh, it's true in this case, Not true in every case. But it's like here, any publicity is good publicity. Whether you get accepted to your job or not, it's still good that, like someone at that job, is gonna recognize you. Then who knows? Maybe once you're president of the United States or whatever for maybe they'll be like, Yeah, I might have turned them down. That might have been the wrong thing then, but it's like I could recognize that this person is a hard worker because they started off of me. And if if, like they, they managed to do what they could do, then that's great. Then it means that I might have made the wrong decision by not hiring them or something like that. So I think the best I think is just put yourself phone put yourself out there. Not even like not working is also like just knowing a lot of people is great, whether it's like for personal purposes or for like, more of a business purposes, more of a business purpose. Uh, just knowing a lot of people is never bad. I mean, doesn't working. Just look for opportunities, you opportunities. Yeah. And even if you don't get something under the thing, you try with your getting experience and what I find sometimes with with trying for jobs or working in jobs. And in the end, if it doesn't work, it might be something you realize you just don't want to do. But at least you went down that path and you're able to close that off. I think that's some pretty good words of encouragement to keep on going. Nikita, how can people reach you? Um, well, you could reach me multiple ways you can reach me through are very social media platforms. So we have our instagram platform that you could reach us, that it's 3 60 underscore creativity 3 60. So it's kind of a loop. We have our Facebook page. You could just search 3 60 creativity on Facebook. You could reach us there. We have our Twitter page, so that's 3 60 creative art. And that's our Twitter handle. And you could just reach us by searching up 3 60 creativity. That's also where you could reach us on most places. We also have our website. They could check us out, you could purchase our products and you could donate and help out with all the things that we do. And that's just at 3 60 creativity dot art. So that's kind of the places that you could reach the business. If you have any like questions or anything like that, then you guys could definitely email us were contact at the contact at 3 60 creativity dot art. So it's pretty easy to reach us because our website is part of our email. So it's not. It's not hard. It's all connected so that you could reach out that. Nikita, I have one final question for you, and that is Why do you work again? I don't want to sound repetitive because it's not the best thing, but just seeing the people that you inspire and that you helped and that you like touch and that you like, just talk to you. And it's like that really inspires me to continue working and trying to do what I want to do, whether I'm successful in it or not, just meeting the people that I meet along the way. That's always great, then kind of inspiring the people that I might not...

...ever get to meet. But I know that what I had done has helped. Um, that's pretty. That's kind of the main reason that why I work. Nikita Chernin, Founder CEO of 3 60 Creativity Young Man, You are an inspiration, and I hope you all the best in your work. A 3 60 creativity and anything else that you venture to Dio Thank you so much. Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, follow and share with others so they to be encouraged in their work. I hope that you have yourself a productive be a joyful day in your work.

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