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Episode 54 · 1 year ago

#54 Marcus Hart - TransformU! Live Show Host & Author BrianVee Whywework

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Marcus Hart is a podcast cast host on TransformU! Live Show. Today he talks about his journey with work while humbly recognizing where is strength originates.

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"What is your transformation journey?

This is the question that I often lead all of my interview guests with on my podcast show. I am firm believer that like myself we are all on this never-ending journey that is full of forwarding pivots, indecision, choices, and life happenings.

I am experiencing this journey with the clients I have worked with and in the solo projects I worked on for personal development and as a service to the community. I have learned about my strengths as a contributor to this universe. When clients work with me they usually deepen their relationships with me because of my ability to really listen purposely with care. I bring out the best in them for great quality content and build a connection during the interview of the broadcast that is genuine and not rushed or commercialized. On my podcast show platform guests are allowed to be themselves and share their opinions while being moderated to keep a professional look.

Beyond the interview, professionals are treated with exceptional concern for the delivery of their stories and how their brands are projected. Many companies want out of the box thinkers and someone who will truly give them a personal and custom touch to their orders. The most important aspect of why I understand this is the fact that I struggled at each building phase of starting my 3 new businesses. During each time, I couldn't afford to find a marketing expert and/or specialty service that could give me a personal touch while also communicating to me that they actually cared about my spirit.

My spiritual experiences; having died at birth and several other profound experiences have inspired me to have a different perspective on the value of life. Each individual life that reaches out to me is treated delicately and with care. I infuse this into my business and I am dedicated to affordable social marketing and podcast solutions that are simple and personal.

I am available to CONNECT!
Also on Instagram watch my stories to learn podcast tips https://instagram.com/transformunetwork


*Experienced Writer with a demonstrated history of working in the broadcast media industry. Skilled in Negotiation, Management, Business Development, Marketing Strategy, and Social Media. Strong media and communication professional with an Associate of Science - AS focused in Business Administration, Management and Operations from Bryant and Stratton College-Wauwatosa." (LinkedIn, 2020)

...welcome to why we work with your host, Brian V. As he speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which would be an encouragement to us all to get up. Get going on. Keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now, here's your host to why we work. Brian V way I'm Booth. This is why we work today. I have the great pleasure of speaking with Marcus Heart. He is unauthorized teacher and host of Transform You Live show. I want to get to the root of transformation not only transformation in life but transformation in work and people's idea of their work ethic. So join me today in this conversation with Marcus Heart. I'm Brian V, and this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure of speaking with Marcus Heart. Good evening. Fine, sir. But even to you, Mr Brian V really appreciate you letting me come in shop talk with you. I think I appreciate you being here. I just Inter Sorry. Introduced you a moment ago and saying that you're an author teacher and host of Transform you. Can you give us, you know, more thorough introduction to yourself, and then I'll bring you back. Okay? I I really hate introductions. E don't think nobody likes introduction. But for the most part, there was a time where I was looking for a way to, you know, find purpose and meaning for my life. And that was very, very much. After my difficult childhood, I actually came into this world. I suffocated at birth. I died at birth, so I had a very traumatic interest into the world. And I've discovered as I was growing up along with the abuse sexually, physically, verbally, I was very sensitive to, like, different energies around me. Yeah, rather it be something that, like people will say, described as like, Oh, you know, it's not there, So you must be hallucinating. A lot of this stuff was very real to me, and I was always considered myself a sensitive and an impacted person. Uh, and when you add on the trauma I had, you know, I had to run away from the trauma because I started live with my dad at 13 and at age 17 I decided to enlist into the military. And when I made that entrance in the military more trauma, pal Doan, there was I spent a lot of verbal and physical abuse in the military as well. And I got deployed right away after finishing up my training Thio Operation Iraqi freedom. That's why I wear the hat here. And why was you're not that old young pup e started very young, you know? I'm 34 now, you know, you're really young. Yeah, I'm still Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I had a neck injury while I was over there, and then I came back home and I came back, not the same person. So you know, a lot of the childhood stuff and the the military stuff created the mental health issues that I had to transition and bad away from. So I spent about seven years doing doing some work on myself and also with some help from counseling and mental, uh, and being checked into mental health wards, um, rather through the VA or here in my city to do some some personal work to to get rid of some of the addictions additions that I was dealing with some on and to reduce the suicidal ideations. Ana even had about four different suicide attempts throughout that seven year battle. Uh, and that led me to find, like, God what I call the secrets of life. And it...

...really helped me with my recovery. And it got me out of that prison I was creating and decided to transform myself. Eso people, people say, Hey, you know, I wanna change. I wanna make a real change, you know? But change is hard. I say, You know, I say, I say it's really it's more easier to transform. And if you use that language you can transform, you could be whatever you want. It is like that question. You get asked like whether you wanna be with you. So I asked myself that question. I said, What did I want to be? You know what I want to be now that, like, you know, I'm starting to, like, melt away some of these issues I'm having. I started by writing writing books I wrote I wrote when I was in the military about my experience, but I got to turn away from right, and so I returned back to writing, and I started writing on some of the things I had learned, and I decided to gift gift my my gifts to others. My my healing abilities, Uh, and also just my ability to, you know, connect connect divinely, uh, to my higher calling. And, you know, I've been known to, like, be able to get some prayers through for myself also, you know, first you gotta get me up to get a prayer. To do for yourself was also give get prayers through for other people s. So I became a spiritually teacher and mentor for for a lot of people and got them through some of the issues as well. And and then, yeah, so But now what I'm doing most recently is podcasting. You know, I have a podcast network of about 12 different shows. Yeah, at first you said you don't like introductions, but that's a pretty good introduction. It's a long introduction, so you never know how long should know. It's, you know, it's good. And I'd like to bob and weave through all of you know, a much as we can through some of those things that you said because you brought up some pretty big and important and crucial topics and things that air impactful for many people and where people tend to want transformation out of some of those things or into some of the other things that you have done. But, Marcus, can you bring us back? I mean, it's interesting, because I did read about you dying at birth. Um, which I mean, that that sets you on a different path right there. You know, once you're old enough and someone's telling you, you know, you actually died at birth. Oh, well, okay, well, I've been given a second lease on life, and then you're mentioning other things about prayer that you know, there's another another, um, rebirth. That kind of happens there. But in through there and and into the abuse, did you find yourself getting employment at a young age? What was your first job that you got? Yeah, So I always wanted to get get out of the hours or get get away. But there was also some some financial struggles and hardships that that my mother was going through. Especially when she got injured on the job. And she was a single mom. If you said that you didn't. She would live with your dad until 13. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. My dad was in prison, so I didn't really get a chance to know him about age nine. But, you know, But I lived with a 13. It was hell. But my mom? Yeah, she was single, mother, you know, we didn't really live live in the best parts of the city. Uh, I'm probably I know I'm not the only one, but my mom and I lived in my hometown single mom in the worst place of town. Mhm. But now I can look back and say, That's right. I was raised in. It's called C would. And it's known as the worst place in town, at least the worst street in town. And so I know. But it gives you humility and gratefulness thinking about you know, what your mom had to do and what she was trying to do on her own to get through that and you know, to where you are today. Then it it motivates you, and it gives you an appreciation for some of the struggles that other people go through. Yeah, because you know, I actually heard heard it on on another podcast on, you know, on Tyson's podcast. He was He was saying that your mother's love is very different from from another woman's love that you will ever like Mary. And he was saying, Your mama do things for you. You know, that's for your survival course. It's like when you get married to one. You know, that woman is actually doing things for her survival. So I'm like, Yeah, I said, Wow, that really makes sense because, you know, um, you know, I look back on it and I think about all things and my mom went through and, you know, and...

...then and then I wanted to give that back to her at age 13. You know, I said, Look, you know, look, I don't worry about it. I got it, you know? But she still even with back back injuries, she would still get up, try to cook meals, and, ah, try to take care of, you know, like And when I come home crying because I didn't want to goto work, you know? And I had a rough day at work. She come here. Come here, baby. You know. So what was the first job that you did. I worked at the O Walkie County Stadium for for the brewers. Really? That was your first. That was your first job. That was a cool job. How old were you then? I was darting. Were 30. That's the job you're referring to. You were 13 years old and working for the Milwaukee Brewers. Yeah. How did that look? That reminds me of the movie. Rudy. Do you ever see that movie, Rudy, Right? Like the grounds keeper. And, you know, Rudy is just trying to make his way. And he had to do get in the grass and cleaning up after a game. What? What did you have to dio? Yeah, that's that's basically what I did. You know, like I would, you know, get peanuts. You know, out of the out of the dugout and eso cleaning there. Did you get to watch a game? Got to watch games, too. So sometimes, you know, sometimes I get a chance to stick around for the games. And was that was that Was that about watching the game was that you were allowed to They gave you a spot or it was kind of you did your job, you might have been too tired or, you know, you're not starting. It was a little bit of both. So if we got done, done quick enough, you know, like, if you've got done with your area, you know, you could stick around, you know, they let you stick around as part of a za little bonus, but, you know, But if you if you still you still have things to do if they had something do for you outside of, like, just fieldwork, you know, like you might sneak in like you see, they play, they play the Dodgers 13. You're like, Yeah. And these guys were giants, right? Right. And I play baseball. So, you know, I love baseball. I still love baseball, so, you know. So, yeah. So you got in. You really got into the dugouts after they were done. Doug, it's I heard. I mean, you can see them on TV sometimes, but like, one of the dirtiest places are they are Oh, my God. Like some floor sees e tobacco. Exactly. Really chewing tobacco. I said, Oh, these guys really don't eat your tobacco. Good. So so much. No, No, no, not so much of that. But you got you got You do get some gum, though. Kind of stuck thio to the benches and get that to, uh, e could see you go in there before the game. Now, gentlemen, e got to clean up after this. Can you guys just keep this a little bit neat? Yeah, I thought about telling one, because sometimes you see them walking past. Yeah, my friend. You'll be like, Look at I bet it was him. That's funny. You're not looking for an autograph. You're just finding out who is the one with the gum. You're right. How long? How long did you keep that job? Was it Seasons? It was season, though, and I kept about two years. I did it. I did about two years. What got you that? Well, how did you get that job? But what got you out? I know you mentioned your mom, but what really pushed you out to get it? And how did you get that job? Yeah, So before the newspaper kids there was before the internet kids, it was real popular. There was something called a newspaper. Eso you look to the classified. Okay, Yeah. I looked at the classifieds, and and I saw that like, Hey, they hired a marquee county stadium. And I said, You know what? I don't care how they hire it. I'm gonna just go talk to whoever is the manager and let him know that my situation and and see if they hired me. But at 13 why are you looking at the like What is that? I mean, you kind of hinted at it, but the motivation to look at a newspaper, the classified ads I'm gonna go tell them my story. What? What? What was driving a 30. I've done a few interviews now, and most or not. 13 13 is getting like pretty young, which is great. I think it's great for people to hear the kids can work at 13. But what was getting you to look at the paper and get the job? It is pretty interesting because for a long time, you know, I would just like, wait and and look. And as I'm like, I'll be paddling like in my in my, you know, in my area where I live, because just look in the window. I said you know, And they had the help wanted sign and and, ah, lot of these places. I...

...said, You know what? They pray Just pray won't fit me, But I'll ask anyway, So I just I went, I went asking around, and then I came across, Um Ah, gentleman, he you know, he was inside of a bakery, and that was like, one of the places I stopped it before. You know, I start looking at the classifieds. He said, you know, like, you know, you could really speed up your time if you just grab a newspaper. Kid E said okay. Okay, that makes sense. Um, so you know, I grab the newspaper and looked at the classified. That desire, though, was the desire solely to help your mom or was was there. That was my That was my big Why, that was my big wide, you know, to really help my mom and to kind of take the burden off of her because she was only gonna be living off of unemployment, uh, into into our disability, kicked in on and on unemployment. At that time, it really last long. And we have food. We have food stamps But so what? Did you know? Where you What did you do with your money? So how did that so? I mean, you're you're initiate. Initial idea was to help Mom, but then you get your paycheck. I mean, there's a temptation right there, right? E mean, unless what did you do with it? So he believed that my first remember my first paycheck to because it's one of my One of my favorite numbers is in. There s Oh, my first paycheck was $135 in 19 sent. Yeah, and so I took. I took $100 and I gave it to my mom. I said, Mom, you know, here, here's $100. Um, you could do whatever you want. You know, if you want to save some of it for me, that's fine. If you just want to use it on the bill, you can use it on the bill. And then I took $35 and and and then I was really big into these, uh, to these the w f like action figures. Yeah, at the time. And I went and bought me a stone cold Steve Austin action figure in a pair of shoes. I mean, that's That's pretty good. I mean, you gave most of your money to your mom. Yeah, right. Do you remember her reaction or to cheat? Were you prepping her? Letting you know this is why you're doing this? Uh, she she started crying. You know, I remember her started crying, and she actually went in the room and started crying. She didn't want me to start crying like Think about about the baby Cry, O brien. Yeah. You're taking me back, man, but yeah. Thinking about it. Yeah, she she went, She went in the room, she started crying and, you know, and I was I felt really good. You know, I feel really good. I was really happy on a day I couldn't imagine. I mean, I have two Children, and if my, you know, just out of the pureness of wanting to help a parent like that's that's really good on you. Especially at such a young age, right? Yes. It's really good. So you did that for a couple of season, and that only brings you to 15. Did you have other jobs in through middle school in high school? Yeah, I continue to work all throughout high school on, uh, but the some of these turned into summer jobs, But the my next job at 15 was at a sub company called Blimp Piece. Um, and and then I also work with my dad to my dad. You know, he finally got on a good track, and he he, um he started a construction company. And so I will work, you know, some some days with him and some days that the a sub company sub sandwich eso you said living with your dad was hell, and you don't have to divulge that. But were you guys able to mend at all or it just became working together, working for him and just carrying on with life? Yeah, it was It was mostly now when I when I work from him, Yeah, he was a Hey, hey. Made. He made me not like hey, maybe not like anything construction related. So Okay, e hey turned. He didn't It wasn't Yeah, yeah. So you know, I learned a lot of carpentry skills and, you know, in a lot of other, you know things, But it's to the point now, where I don't even want to pick up a hammer. You know, I got a lot of, ah, lot of bad, uh, imagery from, you know, just just working with him since the way he held up, held himself and showed you his work ethic and how he may be treated. Yeah, but he he he had very good work at it. You know that if I got anything from him, you know, very good work at it. Very intelligent, you know, very creative on. And that Z Yeah, that's definitely embedded than me. So with working in construction, how long before you got out of that s O? That was I was kind of in and out, in and out, in and out, in and out. Was that story? Was that because you were looking for other jobs and you always...

...had that to fall back on? Yes, it was mostly because of that. And most because, like, sometimes he has just forced me eso I would have No. Yeah. Sometimes I don't have no choice. You know, you'll wake me up very early and, you know, and then way off we go. But even even that if you think about it in helping your mom and you know, financially, your dad, if he called you, he needed you. And whether you liked how it looked, right, it's still you are helping him his business, right? No matter how good or bad it was or what you learned or what you didn't learn, just you being there. You were the son that he could lead on because apparently, you know, there was many other people that he could call, especially your 15 right? You know? Yeah. 15. And that was the family business. Eso, you know, and e mean from from what I was looking, he was getting jobs he was getting, you know, getting a lot of contracts. So eso he was making the money and he would pay me sometimes, sometimes late. I don't know why. I think he kind of did. That kind of motivated me to ensure that was gonna come back and work something. You want your money, you got to come back and not only like, unfortunately, or fortunately think it's fortunately is those lessons teach you some things right at 15 that you know, you're not always going to get paid on time But regardless of what your family or not and how you carry yourself when you're faced with that adversity, I mean, I've seen some shows and stuff where people are just freaking out and yelling and it's it's over 100 bucks and this is not many years ago, and that's not the way to react, right. But you know, if you can get it from a family member, it teaches you some hard knocks of life and then you. And then when you get older and the same thing happens, you're like, You sure truck it off. I've been down this road before, and that's that's very enlightening. Bryant's very, very interesting that you bring that up, you know, and and, you know, you might have just gave me some revelation. You know, about what I've been actually just been putting into, like, you know, my you know what? How I live now and how how Yeah, my own Tubo. ITT's definitely a superpower that, you know that I have you know, And I guess I got from its no guessing too. I definitely know. I got it from those that that period of my life. So thank you Yeah. Don't be afraid of those tools. Tools, man, I love construction, right, But I'm horrible at it. But I, you know, thinking, you know, put yourself when you're 13 in the bullpen cleaning up, you know, tobacco stains or gum or sunflower seeds and the respect that you have for people that do those jobs and not saying you don't have respect for people who do construction. But like I love especially doing this podcast of talking to people who do these, all these sorts of different jobs in the skills and the talents, you know, the desires that they have and all they dio and I want to learn them. I just sometimes don't have the capacity or ability, and I can look back probably on my life and find things where someone turned me away from something. But there's e really turned me away from them as you mentioned right, it's, you know, their way of doing things. The thing you know, that the building of a house or, you know, the shoveling of gravel. You know, you know, honestly, Marcus, if I could shovel some gravel today, I would be all for it. Just because of the profession that I have now. I'm not doing anything physical that, you know, just is good to get out there and get your hands dirty and gets, um, calluses on your hand. And even though I might not want to dio, I might want to do it for the rest of my life. But if even if I didn't the idea that I would want to do it and I'm willing to do it regardless of what experience I have with it taking, looking back at 13 in the bullpen and saying, you know, these types of jobs or even that job that I did before that, regardless of the person who turned me against it, right, like, you know, I had a paper route if, you know, the guy was rude to me and fired me, and I'm like, Well, I could be turned against paper delivering papers, but really, it could have been just the guy Or, you know, when I did barbershop, maybe it was the guy. But really, cutting hair is a good thing, so separate because you know, someone you know, you're sitting in your house now, and someone constructed it, and they did a pretty good job. Yeah, you know, and that's that's very true. And, uh, and especially what you said about, like, Okay, if we could, you know, if I could go do it right now, I would have no problem. And that's that's actually that's absolutely true. You know something? Sometimes it is. We we do. I put too much emotion into the Yeah, the baggage, you know, rather than the actual thing in that moment...

...that we should be. You know, uh, you know, enjoy. And, you know, if we, you know, if we would enjoy if we, you know, was the put ourselves in that position to do it eso and you know, and I have found myself where, you know, I have gotten great satisfaction work. My dad, you know, most recently here. Okay, I did some work with him recently just to help him out, You know? E didn't charge him. E gotta pay me nothing. So, you know, But he really was insisting on paying me. I said, why s Oh, yeah, I did some things, but, uh, kinda kinda early in my, uh, kind of recently and both once I reached my late twenties What kind of construction is it that he does? What is it? Hey, does residential and commercial work. He does everything you know. Okay. Oh, man. I would love to side a house right now, wouldn't you? America's you and I side by side with the tool belt and, you know, a hammer and throwing up some siding. That stuff looks good when you're all done. Yeah, um, plumbing. You know, you turn on the tap and it actually works. And it's not blowing in your face, like, you know, when you get your own house and you can fix something your wife says, Hey, honey, this is broke. Don't worry, dear. I can do it like there's great satisfaction in that or you have the ability to build something out in the back with your kids. Like those those Yeah. So, yeah, put that in your tool about the idea of separating the emotion or the baggage and and say, you know, these air, some skills that I've learned, whether I use them as my real job or just do it as a hobby. Like, you know, you see people within a workshop just tinkering around with something that building something I love that I just don't get the skill. Yeah, I think that's gonna be me when I'm old, you know, like, you know, a garage, just messing around with stuff. So you're right. And you might be phone your dad. Hey, Dad, how can I You know, and he got some of that skill and it's just, you know, the baggage that comes with it. So, in your high school days where you started to think of a career, I know you went into the military, but was there something that was boiling up A something you desired you wanted to do? Yeah, it's quite interesting. I was looking at, you know, a job in federal law enforcement. I wanted toe. I wanted to be a FBI agent or C I c I A agent s o. That's something I really wanted to do. So I wanted to do something in the government A to government level. And but the military kinda knocked on my door first 8 17. And I said, Well, you know, I get I still get to shoot a gun, E That's what I said before I before I learned that, like, yo you don't say gun. You say, say rifle or gun in the military, you don't say Gun E would have said, God, I don't know the difference, but I'm thinking of your You got hit in the face with ah hard. You know, the hard realities of life Young e mean a 13. You got your first job. You're working with your dad at 15 by 17 year already getting three. Military coming, knocking on your door and you're ready to go. Yeah, that's pretty jam packed, right? I know, like just thinking of my own life or some other people I have talked to, you know? There. 2021 22 trying to figure out what they're going to do. 25 35 45 50. So what did you decide to do in the military? And when did you go? So So when I took the test asthma test, I scored pretty high. I had I had options. I could I could have been on the for fire support. Seen I could I could have went to officer training. Um, and but something something kept, you know, But like, I don't know if it was the the sales recruiter are? Yeah, or it's just just just me, you know, a little bit of me to, uh that, you know, when the job supply clerk came up and explained, Although the you know, all of the other aspects of what you learn with being a automated logistics supply clerk, there is just more than just supply because it gave, you know, it kind of fit me because, like, you know, kind of hit my brain because, like, you know, well, if it what I wanted to wanted to switch my brain to e, I wanted I wanted to be more of like, you know, this guy, that and kind of like in a more of a clerical position, kind of more of like, you know, But I don't wanna be so clerical that I'm not doing anything, not not hands office. And I still wanna get my hands dirty. And I still want to be able to look at things in patterns, looking things in a way where I can have some type of type of...

...control, some in the independent control over to where you you mentioned you like baseball and still play baseball, but were you in good shape for boot camp? Yes, I was in good shape because I played sports throughout throughout school. And one of the sports that got me, like, really, really in great condition was, uh, wrestled. Besides baseball, I also wrestle. I played football. I did a little bit of basketball. So in how How is your contract? And I did track to how was boot camp? Um, book for me was pretty easy. They really had to, like, smoke me. They had, you know, they really had Thio. Yeah, I had I had four drill sergeants trying, you know, trying to best just just gas me up and they finally succeeded. What do you mean by gas? You, like, break you down? Yeah. Break me down. Yeah, I was Really? Yeah, it was a hard, hard guy and hard guys breaking. What was it that was so hard? Well, having happened being, you know, getting getting being e guess abuse my father. And so I was very angry coming in. And, you know, I had this mentality like, you know, like, you know, I don't care who get in my face, You know, It don't matter. You know I'm used to it, you know? So, yeah, with that part, are you Were you, like, really good staying on an island by yourself? And they perceive that, or you are You are confronting them, and they needed to break that down. So when they Yeah, they, you know, I was really good just being in my own lane and, you know, and that's just that wasn't a way for for basic training. They wanted you to be more of, you know, assimilated into the culture. You know, get that come on, commodity. You know, so that you can, you know, be brother brother, part of the team, part of the team. And, like, I just didn't like team I didn't, you know, especially especially being a very successful wrestler in high school, you know? You know, I got a team. It's me. You know, I'm good with me and and right before I left for boot camp, you know, me and my dad got into a real big tussle and, you know, I slammed him down on the ground. You know, eso like, So I'm like, man, I'm not taking anybody stuff, you know? So So yeah, e think he said it. But so you weren't confrontational with them? No, You did everything you needed to do. But you weren't. You weren't. You weren't jelling as much as you needed Teoh, right? Right. And and And then what happened was because Because, like, people noticed this people started, like, flocking fucking towards me. And like, I I'm I've never really considered myself, like, you know, that type of charismatic, Uh, well, earlier on, I was never really a cast charismatic leader or wanted to be anybody's leader. But they thought I was trying to start a gang within 10 military because everybody kept, you know, we look to me and see what I'm gonna do first, you know, And But I was doing the right thing, so, you know, they couldn't They couldn't really punish me for, like, doing the right thing. So do you know why you were like that? I mean, I know like you could look back and say, but personally, why, Why you were like that? As you're saying? Well, most, most of the job positions contribute to it. Also, you know, a lot of a lot of jobs gave me gave me the opportunity to work, you know, to do do stuff independently. I even even stuff I did with my with my dad, and it was like, you know, he kind of left me by myself. Well, I kind of do things independently. It won't be a few things. I was then, you know, have to take care of my mom, Uh, for that little bit period time and being being the eldest child, would you say just I mean, if I hope, if you don't mind me asking. But is it a trust thing too? Like I would have that problem growing up the way I did. Trusting like I see what you're trying to accomplish over there. But then you have to open yourself up to be part of that team. Yeah. So the bullying in high school, really, you know, and then the sexual abuse at age, age, age 11 and aged nine and 11 that really, you know, really kind of kind of kind of had my trust, kind of kind of messed up, so I didn't really didn't want to let my guard down for many people, So it was very hard to let people and I was very introverted. You know, I call myself now a pseudo introvert. You know where where you know where I got introvert tendencies, but, you know, I'm still quite introverted, but the but in fact, it was a big 1st. 1st was really big. I know. I know exactly what...

...you mean. I had very similar experiences and the idea of trusting someone first. But once you trust them, then you're you know, you're all in your you know, and as you were saying is you were doing everything you had to dio is just you were not conforming as they wanted you to conform. Exactly is I saw a show not long ago. I don't know where it was, but it was. What was it called, um, the selection or something? And there's these group of 30 people that were going to train like Navy seals trained. And whenever they want to quit, they just rip off their their tag and it Within the first couple of days, it went down to like, 15 people. People just quit. It was just brutal training that they did. And then it was down to five, and then one guy got in trouble like so eight days in or something. It got down to five and he got in trouble and rather than him on Lee getting in trouble in the other four because it's a competition to whoever is selected. You know, this who makes it to the end would be selected and for kind of show didn't have much purpose because they weren't selected for anything. It's just selected that they could compete at this level. And when that guy got in trouble, the other four teammates, By this time, this is only really six days in so that your trust factor has to build up really quick because I'm not a 16 guy to trust someone completely. And when he got in trouble rather than you know, okay, he's gonna They formed around him. He didn't do Burpees. He didn't like it was a it was, um, integrity thing. So they videotape them doing some portion of an exercise and just said, Hey, you know, just go do it and then come back. But they were really recording them to see if they did the right number and this one guy missed one and he didn't kind of fess up he didn't realize he thought he did something else different. So rather than, you know, hoping that he gets kicked out, they all did the punishment with him, which was just doing the other 15 piece. But it showed the teamwork and how quickly that they jelled rather than you know, not conforming. And then all of the people who are doing this, the Navy seal guys like you guys find this is why you five guys air here is because this is what it's about. To be in the military or to have a realty team is because it's not about trying to knock each other out. It's it's this teamwork. And that's what the military is probably trying to dio but crack your shell, you know, crack that not how long did that take? So it took about, you know, it was nine weeks of training. I think it three week three. Okay. Okay, wait. Week three, they decided to like they they say, Okay, we're going to make you a squad leader. We're gonna make you a squad leader, and you know so and so whenever whenever you know you're not doing something or whenever you're not communicating with your team. You decided to do it on your own. The whole team's gonna get punished s Oh, yeah, that So, Yeah. Oh, man, Communicate with these boys. All right? I'll do it then. Alright. Okay. You know, so you know, But then, you know, So I got very good at that. They said Okay, well, we're gonna put more pressure on. We're gonna promote you to Platoon leader. So that's more people petunias, more people. That's the whole entire platoon. I said, wow. You know, that's a lot of people thio I got. So I gotta, you know, move all these different parts and, you know, and let people let people in and and you know, So I had to move, move people through these different exercises we had and like, but then I got very frustrated with someone Eso I said, Look, I'll just do it and they saw me do it rather than you know, being a leader and try to culture to it and trying to help similar team around. And he said, uh, everybody's in trouble. So the head of cleaning, cleaning toilets, scrubbing floors, everyone's looking at Mark. Everybody was hard. It was like, Thank you. They say, make sure you thank Markus. Thank you, Marcus. No, they say market. They said thank you. Private heart. Thank you, E Oh, man, it feels crappy. Eso you know? Yeah. So communication trust is real key. Rial ki We learned during that. So you said you went thio, you know, and thank you for your service. I say this seriously, being from Canada, I don't know where Canada would be without the American forces. How How long did you stay in the military? Until you left it. So I did. I did. On six years total eso After my deployment, I, um I didn't return back to regular routine duties. It was impossible for me todo you know. So I think I went toe...

...one, uh, one training. And then after that, I couldn't do anything else. And so it took about one year to separate me at the deployment, and yeah. So where did you see yourself at that? I mean, you also talked about addictions suicide, like mental health issues. Obviously, Um and e mean, I'm no psychologist, but looking back at growing up, a lot of this is a snowball effect It's not probably one instance in the military. It could have been, but it just seems like this upon this upon this upon this, where did you start to see a light in your transition from the military into the private sector or in civilian world? And how how did this for you? Your transformation start to come about. It wasn't. It's a 2015 and I had left the military, and 2000 returned home in 2007. So you had you had almost had eight years in between in between. So eight years in between and and what had happened for me and I I had came, came to start just looking. You know, I came to start like, reading, reading other things. Uh, and I got exposed to other people that were like me. Uh, that was really beneficial as well. But more so just just a decision to started. Started reading and reading and trying something different. Yeah, and taking that really deep insight into myself. Onda course. You know, I was still getting in trouble. E mean, you're young too, right? I mean, you were young in 2007 right? You know, there is mhm the attractions of the world coming from a difficult lifestyle coming out of the being in the military to come out of the military's. You know, you and I were speaking just before we recorded about, like, chaplains in the military that kinda have the boots on the ground. But, you know, having your boots on the ground is a pretty rough lifestyle. And, you know, you can be X opposed to a lot of things. So coming out 2000 and seven, um, having difficulties in your life, you're gonna probably get in some trouble, right? You know, it's kind of part and parcel. They go hand in hand when you're you're dealt. Or, you know, you have experienced this side of life than to find pleasure, find escape. It kind of leads to down paths that you probably in hindsight, would have preferred not to go down. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and the the when you got kids, When you start having kids, kids really can, you know, push you to start looking at a different option to do. You have Children? Yes. And and the crazy thing about that year, I had two in the same year and that same year, Uh, so that was It was just really big reality opening up for me. I say, Okay, these kids need me to provide. You mentioned that about your mom, right? It's the difference between having a spouse and a mom toe have a mom who is willing to sacrifice everything for your survival. And then, if you're young and getting, you know, having a difficult life. And then two kids were presented to you and that realization that Oh, I should be sacrificing everything to them. But do I have the capacity to do so right now? Do I? You know, am I in the right state of fry state of mind and you know, am I ready? And I'm 40 something and I'm not. But But what? What? What really hurt me though, Brian? It's like, uh, I had already had two with three kids before that year, you know? So I had three kids already. Eso I got six total now. Six have six total Have a lot of kids. You got a lot of snowballing. I mean, like that Z, that's a lot. And you were young. Mhm. Yes. You know. So I was on my on my my my 4th and 5th child in that year and and, you know, and I had just gotten in trouble for for another time. And I say, You know what I'm doing, You know, I got to do so I gotta do something different. I e can't just lay around not doing nothing, you know? And let me let my my my disability. You know, if you want to call it a disability, limit me from from moving forward and, you know, provide from now...

...eso Yeah, Americans. I want to get into the work and for people to understand. And I think you have an encouraging story, but was there, you know, a turning point. We mentioned transformation, but a turning point that everything just something clicked. Was there something that finally just clicked for you? I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm an idiot. I do things wrong all the time that they're unmentionable things, whether it's my own thought, my own heart, my own desires. Mm. But I know there was a click. I know there was a time that it kind of put my feet on solid ground. and it gave me, you know. Ah, hand up. I guess if you want to say a way to say okay, there is a different, like get me out of the quicksand. You know, you know, the proverbial quicksand, the more you struggle, the more you sink. And that's how I lived a lot of my life. And it sounds like that you were doing that too. When did you finally or you feel like you're a little bit more on solid ground? When did when did that happen? I mean, you mentioned reading, but it was there a point. Was there a book? Was there someone you spoke to? Yeah, indeed. So the book that really, really helped me the one of the first book to help me was by Napoleon Hill. Um not thinking grow rich. There's a book similar to think and grow rich, though e guesses they call it The fool is standard version. Okay, the lingo riches, uh, the laws of possess on the 12 loss of success. Eso itt's just just the original manuscript of thinking grow rich with without the deletions. I think people really to check that one out because it's it's missing. He's, you know, but reading that and and also, um, also talking with with with someone, uh, that was very dear to me before they pass that that year, which was my grandmother. Um, you know. So there was just some words of wisdom, you know, that that I, you know, I couldn't get anywhere, you know, from both that book and and and and just, um, also my my grandmother too. So you mentioned this in the beginning. So what What is America's heart do in the run of the day now? I mean, a lot of people say covitz change some things for many people, but what keeps you busy? What? What keeps you active now? So currently, Now I got I got my own podcast. I got I got five that either host or co host. And and then outside of those five, there's other shows. So 12 12 total 12 other shows on the podcast network. I'm growing that podcast network continuing by adding more shows that are similar to mine, you know, similar to mine or alone. Oh, are, you know, kind of along the philosophy in which I put out into the world and and then also manage, still managed the Internet radio station that started really long time ago. And a to this point, is that sustainable? Are you working other places as well? Or is that this is the source of your income at this time? This is This is the source of my income. So this is E. I mean, I don't know how you do five podcast. I could hardly do one e mean you're doing five plus the other 12. But, you know, like, I don't know how you're able to do that, but you're doing it. Yeah. Eso eso Yeah. So that's sustaining me. And I still make myself available for, uh, for, uh, coaching. Um, mentor And, um and, uh uh, well, week over. The only thing that changed was speaking, you know, public speaking publicly. So eso I haven't did anything speaking related other than my podcast. What is that you find difficult? I mean with I couldn't imagine five doing, hosting or co hosting five podcast and the network. Your building in the work that you do. Even with speaking when it's on more frequently, what is it you find that's difficult or challenging? about what you do. I think the most difficult thing that I have found and it is very different from my old mindset before I was in the military is that, like, I still don't feel like I got enough help because, you know, I have I have I do have a...

...team. But we're finding that the, you know, the amount of content that we're putting out and the amount of market and power that it takes. We we still we still working long hours and and And I think when when you stretch out, when you stretch out everything that you do day to day in your task and then you have to, like, delegate those you could still like, overstep over, you know, overestimate, overstep things that, like, you know? Okay. You know, I was doing this for myself for just for one podcast. But now I have to, you know, really look at how to delegate. You know, each each individual individual. Fine, fine detail, uh, to someone else so that, like, you can be room for me toe go find us More money. Go, uh, do other activities that, like we'll help to continue to grow us in, sustain us. It's It's funny because you're realizing the true importance of team. Yeah, write it, Zen. It's hard, right? Because people I lot of people know. But people don't know to is for United sit here for a now er or so. Then there's editing. Then there's promoting. Then there's scheduling of a new guest and then, you know, doing it over again or revamping. And there's a lot. And that's just one you're doing 5 12 and finding fresh content, you know, So like, man, it's, you know, and I and we still feel like we're like, you know, like not hitting every point because the network part of what I do started this year, Uh, just your July. So this is just something. This is what I just got into this year, and I already have 12 shows and more shows knocking on my door that wants to be involved in what we're doing. So what is the the advantage of starting a network? I'm seeing networks pop up and I'm, you know, attempted to jump on or you know what? What is? What is the idea behind a network podcast network in particular? the and it's exactly what we were just talking about. Team, you know, you have you have a team behind you. You have you got got the help of other podcast to to swap swap interviews. If you swap interviews to you have this additional marketing engine behind you, uh, to put out your work and with my network, we we have we have in house team. So, you know, if you won't want us toe, you know, to help with editing help with what other other things we will do it for you on. We don't charge you. So because, you know, you know what? We put what you put out, you know, a song as you mentioned Transformed. You mean your network just one time somewhere in there, or just allow us to put the logo on there. Um, you know, you're not only helping yourself, but you're helping everyone. That's, um that's a part of that brand, and, uh, and then it's a good It's good leveraging in advertising and value for the for the big sponsors. Um, when I'm finding is that I was doing it wrong that in the beginning, like I was still only pitching my show to the sponsors on. And I said what I'm doing, I should be pitching everyone's all of us together collectively, because we have We have bigger numbers together collectively, you know, our numbers are big together versus as one. You know, it is like, you know, it's like the sticks is apple where you could break one stick easily. But you take all them together. It's hard to break harder to break. And you got more eso you When you give mawr to advertisers, you give mawr audience numbers. You give more social media numbers. Uh, follower numbers will have, You know that, you know, put out there looking for it And all these different demographics, you advertiser, more like. Okay, Well, not only do I got one show, you know, I got all these shows. Yeah. How much you wanna pass Now, that's a hard, you know, selling or, you know, trying to get advertisers. Yeah, it is really hard, you know? So it is very hard. Um, but, you know, I'm finding it very, you know very much. Now I'm learning learning more, and it's becoming coming a little bit more. It's a bit more easier as a lot more Americans had. As you learn, Mawr, what are you finding as your biggest satisfaction in your building? A podcast network. What is bringing you the most satisfaction is just learning the learning experience, and I'm gaining and and in the fact that it is forcing me to be more consistent, I think I think...

...one of the one of the things I most desired was to be more consistent. And you know, So now I'm seeing a lot more consistency on and just just my routine. It forced me to have, you know, have more of a routine. And I like that, like, Okay, I have a routine. Now, this is actually feels like, you know, this is what you know. This is what I'm getting up to do now. I get great satisfaction out of that, you know, that that makes you feel good going to sleep, knowing they're like, Okay, when I go to sleep, I got I got a team that's still, you know, that's still kind of like doing the things that I used to do Stay up, like, all night, almost into the next day, doing they still working through the night. I could go to sleep. Yes. Is your team local or people that you've known or you met them through the Internet and they're scattered? Yeah, they scatter about, you know, I got I got people in different parts of the world. What is it America's that people do not understand about? Maybe you as a teacher and author, a podcast host or developing this network? What do people not understand about you that you would like them to understand, So they can have ah, better appreciation of you in your work that you do. That's very interesting. I think the the biggest doing that people can take from for me that they may not find easily on the Internet anywhere else. Yeah, is just my my great devotion to to my kids the just, you know, the fact that, like, I'm able to to both work and, you know, and be a full time, you know, be a full time single dad at the same time. Um, I think if when we learn Maura about how to mhm be more active and both are personal life on n and our professional lives, I think we would. You know, I think that's a perfect formula for for a happy for a happy life style. Because then, you know, you don't have to worry about work. Life balance is much. Well, I have a question similar to that and have a different name for but thinking, Marcus, you know we won't throw anyone under the bus, but having a difficult childhood. It you know, blame can be laid at the feet of people who are older than us. Right. Then when we get older, the temptation, unfortunately, is toe act like those very people that we never want to act like, right? How have you been able to separate yourself? I mean, your father of five. So are you able six of 66 or six? I have to I don't know how you do that. I mean, five, I've got six kids. Are you able to go play catch with your kids? Are you able to go run around, play around, go play some basketball? Are you Are you able? Are you setting that time off to the side and trying to be different? Because for me, there's that temptation of, you know, the people that I knew that I never want to really act like I sometimes act like and, you know, just because it's something that you knew growing up. But then you look at other influencers or, you know, influences the way that we hear it nowadays. But parents and guardians and like, oh, they do such a great job, and you wanna look at them and kind of take some of that, you know, and still it into yourself. Are you able to do that? I mean, a single father of six. Um, are you getting some of that time in? I think it was very important to me after after my last rough relationship. I say, Yeah, like, May I? Actually, I got six kids that actually love me, you know? And I was a lot of That's a lot of love. Yeah, I said, that's a lot of love. I said, Man, I say, if you know if I can make time to go on a date, If I could make time to to go do something else, you know, I can put I could definitely, you know, appreciate, get all this love from them and and so you know, it used to be a time where I had them on a visitation schedule. I don't even care now, like whenever you want to drop him off eso and like. And that's not in. And it's not being motivated. Is not, you know, very early.

My first child. I was like, You know, I'm gonna be better than my dad. I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that, E I was on the road, Thio being very crazy, very extreme on the like, you know, on the over loving, you know, and yeah, the best dad ever. And, you know, and my son is my oldest son is super spoiled because of it now and very expensive now because e mean this guy got a whole Jordan. Yeah, he got a whole Jordan fit, you know, like right out the room. And like, e never got Jordan e. So So, Yeah, but then if it then I'm like, Okay, I can't do this because of this because, you know, you know, first of all, let me let me for, you know, let me forgive my Let me forgive my dad, you know? Give us to him. Maybe more compassionate. Thio and meet him where he Waas understand where he was during that time. And let me be compassionate to myself. Let me, you know, let me know. What's it within with within my limits. Let me do us within my limits, you know? Always know what your limits are. You know, a lot of people don't know their limits. Yeah. How do you stay productive? I mean, what keeps you going? And maybe it is that your Children, but with being so busy I mean, I think you're in ah profession. And I think we both know this, that you could be Aziz busy as you wanna be because it never It never really ends. But how do you stay productive? How do you put your feet on the ground and get up and thinking back of you know, Onley What, 13 years ago or something where you were? You didn't say it, but pretty rock bottom. If we're talking, you know a lot of difficulties, right? However, we wanna package it, But getting your feet on the off onto the floor getting up out of bed. How do you stay productive nowadays? The best way that I stay productive is it merely when I wake up? Uh, first of all I gotta say thank you. It's important to say thank you happened That graphic that also gratitude. You know, maybe when I wake up in the morning that that really you kind of pushes me into the into my day. Yeah. And now, if I don't do that, if I don't If I don't? If I miss doing that, if I don't get up right away and just say thank you I know the rest of my day is gonna be kind of, like off and on off and on. I'm gonna have to find your you're asking. Thank you, Teoh. Right In this world of so many mixed messages and stuff, I gotta ask e mean, are you thinking yourself? Who were you thinking? I know you're not thinking me. No, I'm not thinking e a good answer. No, no, no. I'm I'm absolutely I'm I'm absolutely I'm thinking I'm thinking God, you know. So you know, for me personally, you know God on that. That's that's who. That's who definitely carries me when I don't have any energy. When I don't have the ideas I asked I asked him for it. Eso so the productive ity part the planner. I could have the planner. I could have I could have the dry erase board, which, you know, it took me a long time to get, actually get a dry erase board. So now that I have one is helpful, but, you know, really a big part of my productive starting your day off. I started my day off and just some some type of acknowledgement of God, you know, I gotta have I got I got acknowledge him, you know, on and be grateful just for the day they started and and going to the day with, you know, with with excitement, with some some also assignment. You know, another. You gotta be. You gotta be excited. You build the momentum like that. Well, I think you have. I mean, all of us do. If we really think of it a lot, you have a lot to be grateful for. And I That's why I like to bring people down this path, right? You know, thinking and we don't go far from our own path in life. We can, you know, it could be just this something that sparks this idea. And you just remember when you're a kid or you remember, you know, relative or something. But I just want to bring you through this to let you know that you do have a lot to be thankful for. And I think that the work that you're doing, especially with the responsibility you have, is very, very good work. Marcus is there. You mentioned Dryer erase board. But is there a tool or something that you use that keeps you efficient in the work that you do? What is what is something that you can't do without? Oh, man, you won't believe this, but I can't do without. Um,...

...man is going to sound like I'm endorsing him, though. Say, Jordan Jordan. No, no, I say what it is without saying the company because I don't want to endorse nobody. Uh, a schedule. My scheduling software. App. Okay, you know, so, e think everyone should have a scheduling system. Okay, So, automatic automatic skies. One system this'd automated you pay for yours. I'm trying to find one that you don't have to pay for it. You mean like like a calendar early or those types of things Are they free or not free? They start office free. Yeah, I got a free. They got a free You got a free version. You got a free version and a paid version E. And like, when I first started, I started off with the free version for a long time until until I grew into what I where I'm at now. And I said Okay, you have a podcast, right? You have thio. Stay on that. Yeah. So I, um I cannot, you know. And when I when I went all in with them, I just went all in. I said, you know what? I'm gonna get the one year, one year subscription and, you know, and like, I'm still pretty frugal person, you know? So, you know, like, I know I'm making making some money. I'm still very frugal. I'm still very, you know, like I have. Ah, my sister would call me cheap e Thinking about my You might be frugal. I'm cheap. Yeah. My sister called me cheap. She's the only one. Call me cheap. You know, I'm just I'm just a wide spinner. Eso That's the program, the calendar, your scheduling. You gotta have that I gotta have it. And you know I can. You know I can I can innovate around everything else. But you know that, too. You know that really, you know, makes everything more efficient. Keeps me on track because the minute I look at that look at my calendar, I said, Okay, I know I know where to go from there. America's thinking, either as a young 13 year old looking in the classifieds, auras, someone being approached by military recruiters or even in the work that you're doing now, do you have, ah, top tip for people getting in tow work wherever they are in their stage of life? Yeah, you got it right there behind you. And that's your why I know what your wife is and be motivated by by that to to accept any job. Don't. And and and then when you got your wide defined, make sure it's something that's going to sustain you, um, to continue to want to goto work. Um, I mean, even if it is, it might. It might sound. It seems selfish to someone on the outside, but don't have any judgments about what your wife is. Hmm. You know if the moment you add judgments the moment the menu over, over assume, you know, is you know, I wanna You know what? Somebody don't think, you know. Okay, maybe No, don't worry about that. Just just, you know, just really embrace what your wife is for what you want to do. It's it's funny because you think of people and I have not been this way. And I think what you're saying that you haven't been this way is like think of a little kid that said, I want to be the president of the United States as an example or I want to be a I want to play the MBA or something and, you know, in reality, me Maybe you look like not to judge, but like, Okay, that's really good goal. But in reality, some people do that. They do those things at a young age like I wanna be this thing and they do. And I would go on to say, like a zoo, long as someone saying something that is not, you know, criminal like I want to grow up and be a mobster or a gangster. As long as they're like staying away from the path like what is to limit us like I want to go to the moon. Okay. Little six year old or something? You wanna goto? Well, one of those kids that actually say that, you know, as you said earlier about Well, what do you want to be when you grow up? Some of these kids stay on that. That why of? Well, the reason is I just want to be the best basketball player. I just want to lead the country into the right direction, or I wanna be the first person to step onto Mars. And I think you're right of saying not to judge, even have, no matter how outlandish, it might even seen a zoo, long as it's not harmful to anyone. Like, Why not? Why? Why not let these people have these dreams to do these things that they would like to dio? Because you know some people to do, though? Yeah, that's true. You got to stay curious. You gotta stay that curious kid. You got to stay. You have that big and magic, even adult, even adult. Who wants talking about E hope? There's hope for us because if not I'm doing?...

Yeah, you know, So, you know, I may change what I want to be when I grow up, you know, and maybe another year or two. So, you know, um, I might, you know, do this for a while, and who knows, You know, it might be moving on to the next thing, but that doesn't mean I don't love it no more. But, you know, it might just mean it's timeto do something else. So talking about life and changing, how do you separate your work? I mean, we talked a little bit about your kids, but how do you separate and make those keep your life choices? You mentioned life, work, balance. But someone else said, um, they heard someone else say life balance? Well, yeah. Work life choices, that sort of life work choices. How do you separate them and and and make the right choices? Or you at least hope to make the right ones. I like work, life choices. And, you know, and I'm glad you use that because I you know, I believe in that. You gotta add that choices onto that because we do got choices. Bond way have to be okay with the choices we make and that's that's hard for a lot of people because they think that like, Okay, I'm about to choose to take Mother Truth, walk away for 10 minutes to just go and and placed this phone call to Grandma and just let them see how grandma doing Well, im about Thio take our way, uh, to to take mom to grocery store. Or I gotta tell Mom no today, because I need to finish this. You gotta You gotta You gotta really be able to push down that conviction conviction that rises up that guilt that rises up because a lot of times is not yours. It's not. It's not. It's not coming from you. It's not yours. And so what you do, you just take a deep breath, blow it out and say, It's okay, you know, because like sometimes we wait way still have that child like mindset that that's like waiting for somebody to tell us that, like you know, all it's okay. You can go way. Haven't gotten out of that out of that approval validation type of mindset. You gotta break away from that and start being being your own adult. You know, you. So a lot of us are adults, but we're not our own adult to ourselves. You know, we think we need someone to to validate the choices we make or approve the choices we make. Yeah. Yeah. Mom, Mom is gonna be okay. Grandma's gonna be okay. And the client that you have in front of you, you know, if you explain them and I'm like, Hey, you know, I might be a 10 minutes like on delivery nous. Sometimes you could do, like, me just deliberately be okay. I'm not I'm not I'm not recommending that, you know, some of my clients that they might hear that and be like, Really Scotto? Well, no. Sometimes you have to, though, you know, You know, sometimes you don't may not have time to, you know, make that extra phone call, make that extra email. Sometimes you got to do it and then come back, and then it's playing, you know, But be okay with that. You know, you have tow, you know, tell yourself it's okay. You know it. You see, people go and buy, uh, the hostess cakes all the time, you know, and and they know they shouldn't have one. You know, uh, you know, especially if they if they're on a diet and, you know, and, you know, and like, you know, you already had your cheap snack for the for the week, and then you wanna load up on more, you know, like So you okay with, you know, with that? But you're not okay. We're giving yourself a break to like to go do something good. That's, you know, for your spirit and also for someone else, you know? So no, no people, people, choices be kind of weird to me sometimes. Yeah, Z, you were saying about not needing people for those choices. And it's the difference between needing people because I think we all need people for various reasons, but not that validation of, you know, always looking to. And sometimes that will hinder us on leaders in different directions. Um, for that validation, especially as adults, right? I hope my kids look look to me for some of the choices they make now, but, you know, trusting them that they will make because of what I'm trying to teach them or and still in them that they will make the right decisions and make the right choices as they get older. But for us, as adults not toe be holding onto the validation of some people and not being afraid, trying not to be afraid to venture out on our own and spread her own wings. Yeah. Yeah, I tell you know, I tell a lot of my you know, you know, my my mentees, my spiritually aunties. I said, you know, you don't have to keep coming coming back to me for every little thing you know, like, come to come to me for the things that you really, really need challenges, really oppression and really challenging because I have to give you gave you the answer. I gave you solutions. I gave you things to put in place...

...and, you know, in once I once I tell them that is okay, Thio to start trusting yourself to start trusting, you know, because you're not really trusting yourself. You really you know, you really trusted all right, trusting that deep intuition that you know that the connection you have with God, uh, to, you know, to move forward and and decisions that, like, you know, that are you know, as that are as complex as you know, E guess something that's life oppression. If we're honest, I'm sure you had experience with this of people getting into podcaster people doing something new. So if I go on to a forum with people in podcasts, you can see the same questions over and over and over again, right? So people just don't know. So we have to acknowledge also that when we're doing something new, I mean, you think of Children like I'm not sure how old is your oldest child? He's 11 11 like so thinking. Okay, where do I want my kids to go to high school, right? You know, if that if it's a choice of, you know, where would I like them to go? So those air new like things that we've never I mean first having a child like Okay, how do I change the diaper? Or, you know, what stroller do I buy or you know what? What? Close air. Good enough for the winter summer and those things that are new to us. So we look for people and, you know, wonder if it's okay. So there is that temptation to to look for it. But, you know, you're probably gonna figure a lot of it on your own by making your own decisions. But as in podcasting, people make thes same. Probably bring you multiple questions that you just hear over and over again. But they could just, you know, what microphone should I buy? What headset should I buy? You know, what platform should I use? You know? Yeah, I'm laughing because I I get thio Question E said, man, you know, like, do you know what before e I guess you wanna know for me. But, you know, um but I always are rather for people, but and I think we all should like you at least make make the mist ake first and and and and try to assess and try to assess the mist. Ake you know, before, like, you know, we can, you know, like I think a lot of times we want to strike it, strike it right the first go around, you know, like strike it 100% right to the t perfect. Absolutely right. But when I look at, look back on my life like, ah, lot of things that I just decided to just go go with the flow and just do, you know, like it's a lot of it was wrong, but if I had not made those mistakes, I probably wouldn't have probably had learned. I probably would have gotten experience. I probably wouldn't have been able to, ah, have have have the amount of knowledge I got now on be able to return back to some of those experience and say, Okay, I've been here before. I've been here before, so how can I maneuver this time? So, you know, So I think we really need Thio. You know, allow ourselves to, you know, and be okay with, like Okay, well, if this isn't the right decision, um, you know, how painful would it be? Okay, if it's not, you know, if it's not that painful, if it's not gonna kill me, it's not gonna kill nobody else. Okay, fine. I'll sit with it, and I learn from it. Least I could go forced me to go and find the answer. Because a lot of times people don't want to go find the answer. They don't want to go find the answer. Um, but, you know, try to make this mistake for, so you can have that experience. My next question. America's might be along the same lines, but what would you have liked to have known as you were getting in tow work that, you know, Now that would have been helpful. So you know what would you I wish you would have known in the past that that you've learned that your 13 year old self or any other person getting in tow work it would be helpful for Mm, I I believe what would have been most beneficial to me backed in. Which is what What I'm learning now is just just teamwork. Just, uh, that's hired to for kids, you know, and me myself to really appreciate the value other people bring to. Yeah, an organization of sorts. Yeah. Yeah. I think if I would have got that early on and had that kind of have that routine kind of played back to me, I think I would I would be a better...

...communicator with my team and and also be able to move, move my team, Um uh, faster. Without without so much of like relying on what I learned for the military because the military and civilian, you know, a lot of a lot of it cross over. Some of it doesn't thinking. I don't know where it would have come from, but as some mistakes that we make and we all make, um I mean, blunders is what I've made. Um, what is Ah, big mistake that you have made that you've learned the most from that you're able to take with you each day that we probably still forget the lesson, but it's it's pretty consistent and always being there in reminding you. You don't want to do that again. Mhm. I can give you one professionally if you won't want to. Personally, To which you could let me know after I tell you the professional. Oh, sure. Whatever you got, I'll take it. Okay, so the professional we must take I made. I believe I made a mistake. What? The biggest mistake was. Now you know I didn't I didn't follow up wait for that year with a former client and and just after the delivery and and just, you know, and to show them, show them my appreciation. Uh, when I didn't do that very early on and in business. It really God, I saw it like how it kind of really it was reflected in my work as well, because I was not. I was trying to just hurry up and get him out the way and go to the next one and and and not really fostered a relationship. So once I made that that shift, you know, I saw a difference in my business. I saw a difference in how how I do business with people. Um, but if I would have did that very early on, I would I would have a lot more, a lot more friends, a lot more partners, a lot more repeat customers in what I have now. I interviewed a guy, Jamie J, and just he sticks out of my mind, and I think it's something we all know intuitively is, he said. And it just felt like he waas. He was completely thinking of the person he was thinking of me, but he told me because I asked him about it. He's like he's tuned into the person he's speaking with, right, just bringing complete care. There's no phone, there's no you know, other distractions. You don't have a plan outside of this particular conversation and dialing into the person and pouring everything he has into this in his case would be a podcast is well, but having that, um, desire, I think it shows in him. And as you said, where you lack that where you learn from that it showed in you in your work ethic. I mean, me too. I do the same thing, right? Even dealing with questions, saying Okay, I got that question asking. Wanna ask the question, You know, but not actually listening to the answer that someone, we do this with relationships, right? Whether it's girls, boys, you know, spouse is or, you know, girlfriends or boyfriends. We're our own kids, right? Exactly. And so those It's a valuable lesson to learn and that we make those mistakes all the time. It is? Yeah, man. And yeah, about maybe crime. And I'm just thinking about it, man is like, I guess sometimes I get emotional, so yeah, we always try to move to the next thing. You know, what we have is so important And what you know. Yeah, because and that's that's how the world really, really. The world really been to, you know, you find, you know, people people like so fast. Lane here. It was mostly here in the US. Maybe Maybe. Maybe it's, uh okay. Okay. Let us go. That's yeah. We people don't have time. They you know, they want to when you want it fast, and then they go, But, you know, but I really I am creating creating a better culture of where, um, value in the person and not just a person, but the spirit inside of the person is important. Yeah, well, I mean, people shy away from the purpose...

...that people have. And you're mentioning God and, um that I don't try to make this podcast religious for just because it's a it's about work. But, I mean to know that you have a purpose. Work is religion s's the rial religion. It brings a lot of people to their knees s. Oh, yeah. I don't know no bigger religion than work, because you if people goto work before they, you know, before they, you know, talk to God sometimes. Um So, yeah, so that's the religion. You know? You do that. You do that every day. You know, So anything you do more than it's. But it's encouraging to know like that from your mistake that to value the person. And, you know, if there is there is no riel meaning toe life. Then you don't have to value him or her right there. There's no reason, Thio it doesn't make sense if there's no purpose for anything. But there is a purpose and people do have value andan that. Why do they have valuable? Because we have purpose and there is a creator to show. So what, you were going to mention your personal mistake that you learned from Or is it kind of 11 in the same? Uh huh, Yeah, that's kind of one of the same. You know, like that actually kind of translate over and Teoh, you know, into my personal life a little bit that carries over into that. That's that's definitely the movement steak and I And yeah, just not not really not really fostering relationships. And, you know, and there's there's been people that's been available to me. Um, even though you know, I got I got Children by three women and it took me a long time to realize that Okay, so, you know, there is much there's more. There's more to these women. Then what? What? We originally started as and once identified, that we got away much more better relationship, then what We originally started as like I mean to the point where and, uh, I can have all three of them around and like, everybody gets along that didn't never used to be. Oh, but, you know, But once you when But when you start looking, you know, when you start when you realize 1st, 1st of all, Europe issue, you know, fix your issue, your issue is that, like, you know, you need to give the best of you two to the best part of the inside of that person in the way you do that is remove the blinders in your face and look at what's the best part of the person. And that was only outer. Mm, Yeah, relationships are tough. And they I mean, people say they show us usually the our spouse or the person that were with shows shows us just our faults that much better that much easier. Right? And then when they're shown to us, then we get defensive And then the fight breaks out. Chaos total. No song. Yeah. How would you say America's in your life? Especially now with podcasting and the learning curve? Because, you know, we mentioned you mentioned a bit ago before, before the Internet there newspapers, You know, internet wasn't a big thing for very long. And you're not old, but you're young enough to realize, as a kid, Internet wasn't a major part of your life. No. You still had two way pagers. Yeah, the two way page and the little black, um, shrink phones, you know? So, yeah. So you had a big learning curve with getting into the work that you're doing now. So where do you and how do you and what do you say to your Children, too? And the value of education however it comes, I mean, because you learned a lot of 13 in the bullpen. You learned a lot with your dad. You learned a lot with the military, and some of that is formal. And a lot of it is informal. Hands on experience. So all of it, I find comes under the umbrella of education. So how do you or where do you put place. Your value of education. Education is still the number one in this house. These kids, I tell him what I said, You know, You know, it's a little early for you to know this, but you know, when you get old enough, you can go to college. You know, you can go to college. You can, or you can go. You can do something different. But while while that's happening, um, you need to do...

...do what's in front of you right now, but also learn, you know, take the opportunity to learn, um, whatever you love, you know? So, you know, the big thing for them is video games in Ticktock s. Oh, my kids are learning how to, um, manage my tick tock. Hmm. Yeah. You didn't have enough team members. Hey, I got six kids. Yeah, so they want o make make really good tick talks with me, and they do cool things with my pets. I got a dog and a cat, and so they make ticktock with cats and cat and dog and eso eso. You know, just now when you're telling them, but also like putting them in that position where? Okay, you know, like learning, learning, and education isn't just in the school. But you can also learn, you know, you know, in the things that you already love to do and and build upon that. Yeah, it's That's why some people get caught up with that question, I think. Oh, because I didn't go to this school or that school then, you know? Well, then I don't have a view. No, because I think I mean, growing up is a kid. You learn a lot of lessons, and that's a lot of education there. And getting into I can only imagine being in the military things that you learned and being in logistics and just being training, being in the head of the tune. Those things have taught you lessons that you will never forget. And not only that, getting into, you know, technology with podcasting, You know, a lot of information that just, you know, 5 10 years ago was not part of what you normally did. I know. It certainly wasn't part of what I did. Yeah, well, you know, and my my education, I like to think my education was was in many folds. I got a lot of street education, you know, like having having to grow up in, you know, in some of the rough parts of Milwaukee. So you get a lot of a lot of street education, you know, by the fault. You know, you have no choice. You you've been there and and and and then, you know, just on the job, learning. And I didn't have some college experience and the military, and, you know, and and now I'm still still student. I still feel like I'm student now. Yeah, I think it's important. Always. You know, look at yourself a student and try to be a student and and learn from whatever you're doing. Marcus, Is there anything else that you would like to add thinking of my listeners of people who were young, similar situations. They have a tough family life. There may be kind of forced, but out of a good heart and desire to help the family, but forced out of the house toe work. Maybe they're just, you know, entrepreneurial. And they want to start. But also, other people who are in work that they don't like they not sure how they're going to support their family. They're looking for a job, and they're not. There doesn't seem to be anything out there for them. Do you have any words of encouragement for people in their journey with work? Yes, I have to. I have to. I'm going to improvise the quote because I cannot remember the quote right now. Maybe because it's approaching nine o'clock where I met. But the quote as I improvising and, you know and what I take from the quote is by Franklin Franklin D. Roosevelt. Hey, says I'm alone. The lines s I'm not quoting exactly. He said, Use what what you have, where you are. And, ah, lot of times we are waiting for things to be added to us or or looking for the resource is to start. But if we look, if we realized what's already inside of us, you know what God has put inside of us and we start there, that should be enough to motivate you toe move forward and anything you want to dio and you and and then the other part of that is, um is my book title. Uh, I think possibly be possible. You have the first think it and once you think it, you know and remove the fear of it. You know, be it be possible. But you know No, that is possible. And start being possible. Being active participant in the things that you as you you know, you first have to think that is possible and it be possible in it. You know, we can't let life just...

...happen to us. And we can't let circumstances although they may seem bad, Um, we take, we take you take what seems back we transform it and make it work for us because there's opportunities that are already there within you that you just haven't tapped into yet. Think possible. Be possible. America's heart The author, teacher and host How can they find you? So the best way to find me You can follow me on Twitter at markets underscore heart Uh, fresh new Twitter page. So you know I'm not doing any ranting or any political stuff on there. So s so feel free to follow me there, Marcus. Underscore heart. You can You can get more information about the podcast network and or any other podcast. Bye. Headed over to transformed u dot U s and transform you broadcast has transformed the letter u broadcast dot com or transform you dot us. Americans have one final question, and that is Why do you work? I'll work because God has called me into this work. I believe firmly that God has called me into this world to to touch others. And there's ah bunch of his loss sheet that needs to be returned back, uh, to him and to know that he loves him on he that loves can be shown through me. Also work for for my family. You know, my family needs me. They depend on me. They love me. And and and then, of course, you can't be Can't leave myself. I do it. Do it because I love it, You know I do it because I love I get great enjoyment for what I do. America's hat author, teacher and host of Transform You Live show Thank you for your time this evening. And it's been a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, follow and share with others so they to be encouraged in their work. I hope that you have yourself a productive be a joyful day in your work.

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