WhyWeWork BrianVee
WhyWeWork BrianVee

Episode 31 · 1 year ago

#30 Lani Thomas Grade KG2 Teacher

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Lani Thomas talks about life as a travelling American and an international teacher.

Welcome to why we work, with your host, Brian V as. He speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice, which would be an encouragement to us all to get up, get going and keep on working. Workings Top, but working is good. Now, here's your host to why we work, Brian V. I am Brian V and this is why we work. Today, I have a great pleasure speaking to you today with Lonnie Thomas. Lonnie Thomas and I met last year when we were both endeavoring to take a teach now certification program out of the United States. We're both ESL teachers, or I am at least, and she is working in a school and International School in China and I'm in Korea, and we've been partners for this whole time and I'm very excited to speak with her and I actually have her right now, so I'm going to let her in and we're going to begin the conversation with Lonnie Thomas. This is Brian V at why we work, and today, as I just mentioned, I have the great pleasure speaking to you today with Miss Lonnie Thomas. Good evening, young lady. Getting evening gets sir, how are You well? I just said you put me on a time restraint and I said that you were all dolled up and looking like you're ready to go out and that's why you were putting me on a time restraint. But it was the real reason why you were on a time restraint. I am doing my masters and tonight is my last online session. Some almost done. I'm so excited. Cannot wait to be finished. See, in the introduction I just mentioned that you and I had met last year through the teach now graduate school program. We were doing the certification program and we had been partners through the whole thing. We bobbed and weave through modules, yes, but we were there side by side through the whole thing. But I have to say to your viewers, I'm sorry, we're trucking. You know you're okay. Is Amazing. Brian is amazing. He is so on it. He's a great part of to have, even if you feel like, Oh, well, he is therefore you. He's going to get the slab. I just want to say thank you to Brian because he is going to well they can't see me waving my finger. No, you're a great note and I was just gonna say but it seems like as a contradiction or going against you. I was gonna say, and you are crazy enough to keep going and you're in the Mass Stars Program. You were doing a Master's program at the same time of the certification program. Yes, so how is that like? I think from what I know, because you and I talk on occasion, that you're nearing the end. No, yes, because we finished our pasts ago. How is it okay? So I went into the master's program brass, because a program, because I knew that to take a break it may take me forever to never take it back to it. So I'm like, well, while I'm on this roll, let me do it, finish it, get those cuidentials like the man, better pay, better benefits, etc. Um. The program has been challenging. Yeah, it's been challenging. I'm disappointed in it. I don't because I'm my focus is teaching multilingual learners. HM, as very esl focused. I'm a Yes, I'm English teacher and yes, I do teach yeself, but I don't like to become better teaching multi lingual learners, and I just put the program itself isn't, while conceived or welcome carried out, and I think the instructor it's not that well informed. And as a teacher myself I can judge others. The worst thing we're going modules were like this instruct not against the program in particular, but as a teacher, we're looking at these people. Yeah, oh well, are they eating US exactly? But you can be, you can look, you can have, you can look at a program like. No, it's more the programs of a teacher or it's one of the teachers. That program was a commination of both, and great teachers are instructors. Can have a poor program but still make it useful and relevant and the unfortunately, my instructor and I'm always emailing,...

I'm always advocating for myself. Always it's not it's not fun. It's like, I shouldn't have you advocate of myself. This shouldn't this shouldn't be an issue, especially when I'm when I'm bound to be in the right. But that's all I would say about that. What I will say is I have like do my thesis project was very useful to me. I've done it very interesting thing about others. These projects very interesting. So yes, I have learned something. I wish that, overall, it was more. It was more, especially I'm paying for it. Yeah, programs. So, before we get into what you do and maybe some aspirations you have by getting all of this education, and you're not even talking about your other education that you had before, this is just something you're doing while traveling overseas, while some other teachers may not be so eager to to adventure into higher education, but you surely are, Lonnie. What was your first job, your very first job? Mean I was talking to someone today and I said what's your first job, and he said something in high school, and I said, you know, basically, you didn't try to make any money for that. So No, I did some other things, but what was the first time that you, you know, ventured out to try to make a dollar, whether however small it was. What think? We think how you the first time? I was offered money to complete attack. Is that a job? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's worth it's work. I mean that's what I love. Yeah, my mother paid us to read. That works. My first job. No, I remember was just going to us to read and I just like for my massive program. I read about this recently, so it's fresh. Yeah, but I's before it a grade school. We didn't like to read, like what's the point when I got to read when we grow up? So she officed like five dollars per chapter of a chapter book and we'd have to, I would like that now, write a chapter. Pretty good money with US somewhat. It was about and so my sister and I, like I've older brother as well. So this the three of us, my sister, I read, got into it. We'd like pick up as tapter books, we start reading, read. She quit on them and she give us some money. Well, I don't have things going on right now, so he just keep for us. So she kept the money for us. But by the time, but in that first superre avid readers, like we're going through books like there are water. And I remember how, sixteen I was like some mom, I know I want to spend money on now. Where's all that book money is like in the thousand. It's like no, no, I'm keeping that. I Beg, I beg you. I hold know she pulled that one. By that time. You know, I was your reader. You probably really yeah, I mean that that was the whole point of it. We did it here. I tried it with like math facts for my kids. I think. I think I said I'd give you, I don't know, a dollar for every math fact that they got right on it, like out of a set of them. I only paid my son so far and he was in my daughter. My daughter as said, every once while Hey, dad wins, my pope wins my test. She might be listening now. She may ask me soon, but it's true, though, when you get to the end of it, then you're the reader and then you probably realize that's why she was doing it and you probably read a couple things that's say, yeah, your mom is actually supporting you and there's a lot of money going into that. What was the first job that you got after that, like as a job or making money again, still doing something? The one that I remember again for my mom. My mom works the embassy, we group says, and embassies would hire in terms of the summer, right, and so we're sixteen. I think I was the youngest they would hire me. I don't remember how I was five hundred and sixty. She thought up the applications, my sister and I. She built them out, he submitted them. That's my first job in turning with the embassy. Over the summer I was I fuged the division I was in. It was think not been something close to the mill room, picking up packages past in some place. It was fine. So a lot of you telling the audience where you originally from. US, I'm an American, but my I was born of receas because my mom, like I said, was the met. So my brother's the eldest, who was born in Washington. Am I a MOM DC? My Mom was trying to go back for my birth, but you're premature and surprised. We're twins. So yeah,...

...she didn't know at the time either that she was happy, and I don't feel so bad. I didn't know in order the dots. was like wait a minute, something else is going on here. And then a little while, twety mins later, hello. So where where were you born? Where were you born? Overseas? My daughter was born. I was used to the I because there's a nice place to be born. So, as I know well, depends to be born. Maybe I don't know much about the health care there. So, as I know of you, you spent most of your life. How is that life been to be a diplomat, daughter or child and traveling all throughout many places. You get used to saying hello goodbye to people. I mean it affects people differently. For me, I just ree well brother who was I know it's a very, very difficult for them. I think nowadays different with the Internet, facebook, always just media help them. But when I was younger, because I'm when I was and every didn't like being the Games and tell high school. But when I was younger, you love of someplace you probably will not going to ever again. Yeah, you could be pimp pals. I knew some people who really good at that, but I knew my I know myself. Keep that up. See later. It's not me exactly exactly, but you know, I didn't really appreciate shape childhood until I was an adult and I had to learn to have chilvel for myself my own time. Then I really appreciate my childhood sperience. How many different places did you have to move through through your I guess the Teens and Early Childhood Twenty Five, including the US that beak. Six in your family was together most of those times, so it was kind of a family trip everywhere you win. What's most difficult, like, besides this saying goodbye, like what for you is there? Like culture shock, like where were you going? What you know? People warming up to you, you warming up to other people? How? How did you perceive that growing out? For me, the hardest news coming back to the states, because growing up overseas, you see, my family's only black family any school and Um, maybe there was another black family, but it was used. She's just us, but it was fine, like we're just people. Yeah, but moving back to the states, especially to the South, oh my gosh, the racism is a line and wow, and to experiences. Why you talking white gromming? You are it just sounds like me and my first day back at a school in South Carolina, a race right broke out and I'm like where am I? What? What year is this? So moving back to the states and try and like having a one where your places and everything, that was most difficult. Isn't that? Because like every summer, every summer we go home, right, because my mom, like, I'm get in a moment, I have friends in a room or as through are yahtting here there. We have about the states every summer. Yeah, right, because you're American. He has to learn your culture and Blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. But we went to we go home, but like the view a family and we be in these like support communities. So wasn't so I guess I didn't really get to see the larger United States. So when I went, when we actually move back as a junior and high school and then to the south and you're in the wide environment, like, Oh wow, there are so much I didn't see growing up and I don't think I like this. It's very strange. I never heard that. I mean I've experienced that because we're in like I'm in Korea, and we don't see, say, racism, however it may come. It comes in many shapes and sizes as much as you do as you are in North America. So I think the good thing about North America is it's diverse, but the problem is you're going to have people who are not going to be so diverse and not want to be opposed to people in other countries. Right like you're working in China, I'm working in Korea. Many other countries just go on living their lives as normal, but in North America you're going to have people who tend to separate and then it's going to be you have to be four against and it's not something where you used to it's not something that you see in other places. So so obviously no, I think it's also culture, like the North American culture, like the band of America. That's how it was...

...found. Those are the systems, those are people. That's kind of its perpetuated through the schooling and everything. So I think in different places, like the culture between different people from different ethnicities, it's different. YEA, so it is culture as well. So when did you when did you break free from your mom and her the lifestyle of traveling all over the world and decide that you were going to go off on your own and get a job? I mean, I'm still traveling all over the world. Get it, you know. I mean when I from your mom to get your own job? You know, that was in high school, Sophomore junior year. We move back to the states. I was at the mom and I feel that an application form to work at a retail shop and I got the job and that's when as got it byself, independently, earning my own money. Yeah, and it was just shop when I got my first paycheck. I'm like, what are all these things? People you know, and my mom told me like it's Medicare was something else, and I someone social situated. I'm like, well, I'm gonna have that one. I'm older. So if you just how cane made a mistake, I made that stuff exactly. I'm like, I don't want this or this. No, those are coming out. It's my that. I I was thinking by dollars and fifteen since an hour and like Oh, that's gone in taxis. Was your mom is stateside at that time, or were you guys just in between traveling? Now we move back to states premily that time, because my mom planned it so that she would retire in the states. Okay, so then, when did you decide all it's time for me to leave America? I think I decided that. I think I knew I want to leave when we move back, and then after being in the environment for six months, when I got to get out of here the first time, I I got to get too good skin to college, because that was me more opportunities. I need to get into my own my own dime. I need I need scholarships because I gonna my parents. So got my scholarship, went university. What did you take? Great, what did you think of taking? What were you hoping to do? What we're hoping to do. It was really hoping for anything. I'm like, I really I have my hopes and James and like kind of make money. I love history. What was your hope and dream? What was your hope and dream? I don't think you're like. I had my hope and dreams. What were they? What was your hope and dream? I don't know, like being come Indiana Jones character, but Um, so history, chaology, but that doesn't make money. You wanted to travel the world and dig in some dirt and find some ancient artifacts. Yeah, and like this. You know I love history. You're still young enough, you can still do that. We'll see. We'll see. So you went on to business, business, because I'm like, I know I can make it. I get job making money doing that with a minor in Spanish, and then my parents always get my masses and something I love out but yeah, I need a good grace to men take my scholarship and then after that I worked for about eight months, I think, for the promost day, as a contractor, and then I'm like well, I heard about teaching the English overseas. I got my tea Saul, and I went to China because I want some Mandarin. How long ago was this? I moved to Guang Joe. Two Thousand and eight, as there from two ten two Taiwan. Four year did this is study Mandarin on her scholarship, but I got poor again, went to Shanghai, teaching Middle East and then bucking Shanghai. So you've been away from the states for over a decade, over twelve years now. Yeah, do you miss it? Don't miss it at all. It's an interesting life we live, is it not? Really is. We have the freedom of not to worry about the things that are home at the same time experiencing something new. And I don't quite agree with that same because I do. But what do you agree with? Say it again, the three them to not...

...worry about the things that I do. I do listen to the news, I do vote, I bote, I absolutely bowl all the time. Yes, you know, America still is my home and, let's say, even if I get residency somewhere else or a second past, for fingers cross, something like that will happen. Like, I still have the cousins. I love and America, Valley Marl of America, and I want the best for them. So no one, even when I was in Guitar, I was in guitar two of hundred and eighteen, teaching and then when trump did the whole blockhead the guitar, I'd fall dangers my life. I'm like, my how is this country going to react to me being here now that this man has done this? So just because I'm not president, there's mean that things that happen America will not that me, not that those who I know and care about. Yeah, no, I don't mean disregard for it's just you can live, I mean without some of the things that are going on. You can live your life and it's not it's not at the forefront of our minds. You can. I mean you and I were talking last a couple weeks ago and your apartment hunting and you know, it's just like we can live it, but we can turn on the news, we can vote, we can talk to her family and all that, but I think there is still we can push it to the back burner, you know, unlike being in our hometown and not being able to because you'd be confronted with ever, whatever issue. You know, it's a rainy day, it's a snowy day for Canada. It's a lot of snow and I'm not missing that so much when it was forty degrees here yesterday in the day before. So those types of things for me, and I think I think of different things like taxes and living a little bit freeer lives as an esl teacher, while at the same time still caring about what we have left behind and knowing we can always go back there. Do you think that you will at one point go back home? It's not. I wouldn't know where I want to go, though, because my parents live in south Milna. I love there. So it's retirement state not for everyone. Yeah, I wouldn't know where to go. So what are you doing now, Lonnie Becaid? I mean we're all. I know you're affected by Covid a little bit, just like I am here, since we're an Asia. When covid kind of lifts up and you're done your schooling, what is it you'll be back into? I'm back at work now. I'm a teacher. Were all the teaching staff. I can guid him or back for Ping who schooler? Are All of your students the kids in our size of the first? So yeah, we're back at it. What does it typical day? So your what great are you teaching? And the ESL teacher for kind and gotten level two, and I know this, but it takes a lot of patients. I mean it takes patients to do anything in life. It takes a lot of patients to be a teacher, but it takes, in my view, extra patients to be a teacher of kindergarten, grade one, grade two students. How, how? How do you handle your job? How are you able to deal? And I know you do your job well. I've watched videos of you. I heard how you teach, your methodology, all of everything of what you do your job and I appreciate it immensely because if it wasn't for teachers like you, you couldn't have a teacher like me, if you would even consider teacher of great three, four and five. So how do you do it so well and what is your philosophy of teaching? First, I realize that the older become the but a teacher I become, and it's not just because of good experience, because it is, was, also because I'm older, I'm more sure, I have like more life experience. My perspective is better. I feel that when I was younger, you know, you have your own your nerves, secure in this and that, and it makes you less share of yourself. After older, you have it a perspective. But Um, what you say patience. And Yeah, I'm like the children. This is our first time experience. So you have more paid. But listen now, there's some people who would never be able to be a teacher. Would admit it. It's a fact, though, like some people cannot stand children. They just they just can't write. And then, for me, from looking at your perspective, you're dealing with maybe toilet accidents and picking their nose and eating,...

...definitely, you know, like pulling Julie's hair or you know, like all those things. And as a teacher with you know how many students are in your class? Twenty five. There's a big class creatures, right, and you might not think patients. That just means you have that much more patience than I do. You like what it's easy. They're just twenty five little kids and none of them they're just'to in life. Well, I don't have what you have. I certainly don't know. You this expression that goes after age and I saw this on a mean somewhere and I think it's so good. Like the name was that. What do you mean by at my age? This is the first time I've ever been this a is before, so how am I suppose to add? It's so, what's the kids? It's like I can be patient, because they shouldn't. I like they should be expecting know this. This is why I'm here. I felt does something like that. I have no patience for it. Some children patients for learning. We're growing. Well, you'll learn better. You're gracious and kind of no, yes, you're very gracious with them, because I I don't think I could do it. I just don't think. And then, not only that, being an esl teacher and trying to I mean your study. You studied Mandarin. I don't know your level of Mandarin, but when you have that barrier, so if you were state side, if we were state side, you have children who have a larger comprehension of what you're saying just based on their home life, where we're missing a lot of that right and that that for me, is, I think, a frustrating part where. Okay, I want to explain to you what I'm trying to say, but you're not you don't understand because you don't have some of that backing and you're dealing with even younger kids who have no idea. So it's it's to me. It's patients, gracious and kindness and I think you're doing a very good job. Thank you. What, what sort of advice would you give to some younger people at State side and Canada or Esl want to be people that would like to come overseas, and what would you give for advice for them to venture? Because, I mean I remember when I first came. As you mentioned, it builds your confidence will from being younger. You gain a certain confidence when you first start teaching and then you gain even more and some people would think, oh, I don't, I don't have that ability to stand in front of kids and teacher, you know, move around and teach. You what would you give her? Advice for people who are thinking of it right out of university? Well, when I first started teaching, the reason why I wanted to go to teaching was because I didn't like children and and I didn't like public speaking. I really didn't. So I'm like, well, let me be a teacher because of exposure. With exposure, you know, they may be less alien grow on you. They are like they're they're people, they are they they're younger, they're smaller and less experience, but they're people like a feelings and emotions and ideas. So my expense, my advice to people who like well, I don't know, they're weird, I'm afraid. My advice is to do it. I mean, because you're going to be a teacher, you're going to be the figure of a already. They're not really going to question it. Is becaucially if they're younger, children don't really question you and that way, so just do it. The worst that will happens that you'll have a Hobo class. You'll feel horrible bout yourself, but then you have colleagues to help Boister your spirits and help you workshop your lesson and do a better shop next time. And as from moving overseas, it is difficult even for a seasons move. Like myself, I think when the most difficult things ever is moving, like getting rid of the things that the get rid of packing suitcase is moving to you best difficult and the first three months. There's six months is so difficult. It's the hardest time. After you get over that Hump, as you've made your asterew book community, it's fine. Yeah, and that's what they generally say, is people. If you make it over your first six months, you'll be fine, but it's the first, you know, three to six months, as you're saying, that is the hardest. If you've not been away. I mean I probably for you and maybe even me, because I moved a lot as a kid, but within my own province area, but I moved. I was used to moving. If you're not used to moving in your kind of a homebody might even be more difficult. But for you, and I think having moved a lot and been in and out of different houses. But you know, as I said to you a couple weeks ago, my dear wife, she moved a lot and she hates moving. It doesn't matter if it's across the street, and there's an adage it says it doesn't matter if you're...

...moving across the street or across the world, it's still just as difficult. There's all of that stuff that goes into it makes it so hard. Lonnie, what would you like people, maybe even moms or Dad's, to understand what it's like that they probably don't understand and appreciate what it's like to be a teacher, to be in your shoes teaching their children. What would you like some parents to understand, or even some you know would be parents that will be growing up and having kids and hearing from a teacher's perspective something that they don't understand and appreciate about your position? Alec parents to know that being very horrible to a teacher is not going to make that teacher want to help your child more. I've had some very nice, way very nice, like some lovely, lovely children for very difficult parents and I had to overcome my things with the parents just to continue to be there for that child, because it's not the child's fault. Parents are actors in a way, and the professional me is like, if not that child's fault, they deserve the best for me, always, always, but like, I just really want parents to know that them screaming at teacher sometimes, sometimes, if things may be merited. Sometimes it's been merited right, but well, anything, it's how you communicate to get the results you want. This is important. Yeah, that maybe the louder parents are to the teacher, the quieter we may be to those students. But it's tough. It does have an effect, I mean. And then we have to try to understand that some parents, and I do it as a parent, I I think I know what I what's right for my kids, and then if it has something to do with a teacher or someone else that I'm trying to express that wander desire of my child, I may not say it in the right way and from your perspective as a teacher who you're hearing this sort of stuff from people all the time, or you know what the parents really know is best. But you know, parents don't always know. I heard one guy say that after having teenage, I think teenage to young children, to tend to eighteen year old kids. He said, you know what I learned after having five children, I think he said five daughters. He goes, I don't know anything about being a parent right, but in like he you know it was probably a relatively good parent, but it just like you learn so much and you don't know, even though you think this is going to be the best thing for them, that it doesn't always turn out that way and they go in a totally different path. So when we're fighting for our kids, the tea teacher is the one who's hearing about it and it may not be the best person to voice your concern about your desires for Johnny or Julie. Yeah, now I unders have a vocating because it's so important. Has Some an advocate for you? Because because time this course, I've an advocated myself. I feel that one and when I do I think it myself. I come with the facts, I come to data, I come up the receipt. Now let's have a discussion. Well, Lonnie, I can attest to that because actually I think you and I've been in one another's corner for the whole time we were in the program and if it wasn't you, it was me. We were fighting one another and the other teachers in the group like trying to make it as equal and fair and to our advantage the best way possible. And but that's a good thing to do, right and then you have people in groups or in situations where they may not say anything and even though they're thinking the same thing, you need someone to step up, and I found that you did that very well. And you spoke on my behalf many times and I truly appreciate what you did and what you're doing, and I know with taking this program that you're probably in that group as well, making sure that things are led the right way and the way that it was, it was advertised to be. But I'm not. I'm standing up. Could be rain. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm advocating myself right, because I was vocal once or twice to the whole group, but everyone else's group was like they didn't want anything. Like. You know what, I'm not going to fight for you if you not fight for yourself, but I will make sure exactly, and so I have and I'm fine. Yeah, and now the others. This is the last VC, this last class, mind you. Now the others are speaking of Oh, I should have seen as I should some yeah, you should have. Yeah, we got some things accomplished, I know...

...you did. What is a joy that you have of teaching your little ones, the great twos, and I'm sure you get some ones in there, maybe some threes. What is it joy that you have in teaching putting for the great lesson, having them being so excited to learn and having them remember something I taught them and haven't been effect in their life. I had this one class soon now as working I training school. I had this one class. This child I had from when he was eight when he was twelve. Oh my God, that was long time, for years right, but I could see grow. And then he brings up some grammar structure and I or some sensors rephrase or something like where did you learn that? He's like this? Lonnie, don't remember you taught a teammate bag in the first like did I? Wow, okay, right, em day. That is really is. I remember when my daughter was in grade two and I had a parent teacher meeting and I went and side with the teacher and they bring us in like the little kids desk where they sit the kids in the classroom, which is fine. It just gives you this perspective. And after the meeting, which five ten minutes or something, I said why, why do you teach? And her answer it was a French to we put our kid in, the daughter in the French immersion class, but she's broken English well and she said it's because when at the beginning of the year and her it maybe it was grade one, it was great one. She gets because at the beginning of the year they generally don't know how to read, but at the end of the year they can read, and that's that was for her. The big thing. I'm like, that is huge, because when you get up into grade five, six, you know, any of these other grades. While some kids have difficulty reading, I have difficulty reading many times now and people, as a get older, you can't see those. The increments are not as not as refined as being able to see what they can go from not reading at all to sitting down and reading something. I had this one didn't. This is my hat class. So these are four going on five year olds, right, and when we first started was teasing the you know be but the phonics of it all, and then CDC words and the end he drew me a picture and under it he wrote something. It's like pn some I'm like, look at this word, but he's so propapsio himself. I'm trying to pronounce opencilvation right, he's so pain pie and show as the h L. No, I am Tio n O, Pencil Man. This is one of those say of cartoons. And then he wrote it as complete, in correct what make it out? And then if the make and I felt so proud and he was so proud of like, look at that, using your phonics. It is those are the wonders of teaching. And I'm not a good teacher and I haven't been doing that long, doing it that long, but when you get little moments when a student says you, Oh, I you taught me that, when you know four years ago, or here's the thing, those are those moments that I find are most gravitating to the field of education. When students get something that you have taught and they repeat it back to you or they show it to you in a piece of work and there's just something to it that your heart elevates and you like, I'm doing it, you know this is the right thing. Do you think thanks, you're not a good teacher because you don't sellowself. Don't tell yourself short. Well, I'm working on it. I'm working on how we all though it working. been a better teacher. That's all teachers. Hopefully it's not. It's not an easy gig. It's it's teachers get. You know, teachers, they say, get the short end of the stick a lot. But I think people who have a value of education understand the value of teachers and I think covid nowadays there's a running joke that there's more parents appreciate teachers now that their kids are home all the time, and you have some parents saying, or some children saying, I want to fire my teacher. I could, because it's it's their mom or their dad, and it's it is. There's truth in it, though. There's a value in teachers and there's teachers like you who, obviously you've done your education in the United States, you've done extra programs all on your own. There's no one pushing you to do what you do. What is your motivation, Lonnie? What is driving you to do what I do? Well, whatever I do, want to do it well or my benefit. And as a teacher, I wanted...

...the best job for my sin this as possible, because I remember when I was a student. You know, I want I want my teachers to have done well by me and for these is growing up under my care. I wanted the best for them because, no matter what's going on, maybe they have a horrible home life, at least sti could feel safe and embolden and like the school could be to stay paved. Yeah, they go up their imagines is one while at school. Like, I want to provide that space for them. I want to put a space where they can be the best that they can be, and I really that's not what they say in that arena. I really believe you're doing that too, because I know we shared assignments and projects together and we had to critique one another in yours were always so creative. I'm like this girl, and other teachers too, but this girl is making this stuff up. There's no way she's trying to get these kids to be this creative and think and and like. You have all these things and they amaze me because I'm like, okay, okay, kids, repeat after me. A big have these big projects that are they're wonderful for kids and that shows that you're putting in the work and you're dedicated to your craft and the thing that you're doing and that you're doing well. Lonnie, how can people get in contact you, contact with you about teaching or traveling overseas? And if you want them to contact you, well, they can't. One of my friends, now, this is a good friend of mine, he contact me a few months ago. It's like he's like I'm so afraid. You know, because I'm trying to confute the past six months. You were not on what's happened. You know which happen. You want facebook you. I was afraid that I lost. Confidently for everyone. Yeah, that's going to how like get but here I am. Yeah, that makes one of my buddy. I'd love to and this is a good friend of mine. So I just I am very aware of social media. I know, I know you are. Why added the last part. You See, like I do have an email and my friend can call with me via that. If I'm not respond to anything, know that I got an email and I will get back to you. But or even if you have a suggestion on where someone could find a job in esl or how maybe you first got your contact, my first one is to my tsal classification program because after me and he saw, they arranged me to get a job with EF. Now there's education first, which is a training institution, and knew what there were. There are phenomenals trading institution, like they will train you how to be a good teacher if you allow them do and then I kind of moved on from there. So that was the language core. I think Dave's so cafe is also a good resource. I wish they would make that site more esthetic leap pleasing. It just seems like one horrible blog. But there's information on there. There's there is Daves Solf like. Yes, some of the jobs on there, like some of the schools on that, reputable and this and that, but there are a ton of jobs do you have to do your research on. Is there anything else that you would like to add, Lonnie, on in respect of working as a teacher, your experience of traveling many years of your life and even professional development as you're nearing the end of your master's degree. Is there anything you'd like to add? For advice for people, especially those people looking into work, because they don't have to be teachers, but just people may be discouraged about working trying to it's hard to find a job for them. My advice is don't be free to defense by yourself. I know so many people who want to go for a friend or family who wants, how connection in the place they're going to, and if you're waiting for someone else, you may be waiting forever. Don't be afraid of going, of doing by yourself and know that everything works out horribly. Try to be confident in yourself, to know that both of getting yourself out of whatever situation you find yourself in, because the most likely are most like you are capable, and the odds of something going horribly it might is very low because after living, moving, living in so many countries, traveling something places,...

I think that people to be speaking are lovely, like government's me buy and bickerby whore. People denyse speaking are lovely and very helpful and on that, what I think you may agree to is, even though you're traveling alone or going at it alone, you're going to find some people you can lean on, people that you can you'll find whether it's like, it may not look the same as where you are at home. You know this, the friend that you can tell everything to or the family member that's always there. You'll be able to find bits and pieces of that as you go and spread your wings most definitely, like one of my people is Brian over in here. He was he led the ear to me as I was having an emotional I needed a shoulder. The crime he was that children, you are awesome. The thank you. We met like we've never even met in person and here. He is being there for me. So, so thank you, Ryan, and I've known we've talked. You and I have talked more than many of my best friends over the last year. We have talked a lot, relatively speaking. Yeah, Lonnie, how do you find rest? What do you do in your Wast Time? What is that you want to be the that? What would you like? Need to define that for you. What what yester rest not understanding rest me. He started isn't last year, but rest. You must find some rest. Come on now. I was talking to the other day and you were at a restaurant. You were using the Wi fi at the restaurant. We were trying to talk and it was yeah, but I wasn't resting because I was having an emotional episode. So that's not a little you are out there first, though, you're at the restaurant, unless you were just like eating is eating food to drown your sorrows, which we're not huge sorrow I'm not making fun of the sorrows that you had. I said you reminded me of my dam. When you're not business, what do you like to do? You exercise. Call that rust. So it is perfect, he and it's enjoyable. Another best person to become best, because I tend to go till I collapse. Like it could be work. What could be my mini activities? I have a lot of whose I love and when everything put myself and to push myself and that I just collapse. I I and I just like lay on my gods, my I can't do anything. So what is it your as ask doing when you're not worry? Yeah, dragon boating, and like dragon boating. What is like dry? Is that like getting these Chinese boats and like rowing? Yep, because PA can do it. That's these are dragon on the front. Um, yes, there is. Okay, your hardcore, like you're you're living culturally over there. You're not. I'm going to damn. I try. I dance. I swing eyes. I'm a swing dancer, so that's fun. This is swinging dance. Um, what's a swing dance? And it's umbrella term. There's Lyndy, hot Baboa, SHAG LO. So I do those substances. You just started speaking mandarin to me, because I've no idea. You just said after swinging I was what your beers can look it up later. Okay, maybe I might have to look it up if it's but you're doing a lot of things right. That those that's redly not a lot of Um active things and physically demanding things. And I do yoga. Was it also very visit the manding. So I do a lot of basic at the many things. I love it. But then as for my body's like you have to rest my but I enjoy all these things so much. My bodies like, HMM, no, gonna you. And so this is something I have to work out. I have to work on saying no and I have to work on really giving myself time to rest. You can work as a teacher. Is Tiring at the INN the day you're tired, but I'm like yeah, but I have to get to go dancing. I have to get energy because I have a yellow the different tires. Yeah, our minds, your minds get tired in your bodies need some activity. Yea. Honestly, I do have this collapse and healthy. So I said I need to work on saying now two things. Well, Annie, and resting more. Well, then take that advice. That I mean. I don't know what the definition of rest is. I'm just asking what it is. I like to run or do some activities. To me that's rest. It's not from outside of work. I guess anything that you like to do outside of work...

...and in some way, I guess it rests your body so that you can have a nice, peaceful and restful sleep. Maybe, maybe not. Lonnie, I appreciate your time here. I have one more question. If the viewers here would scribe to my channel, hit the notification button and find why we work, I would appreciate that. Lonnie. Final question. Why do you work? Most imple answer. I need money to live and pursue my infer prosist, basically answer. I could build on that. That no doubt. I was good. What was the second one? Working Build on? I sorry before after my interests, field up, control, let my interests. Yeah, pursue my interest I mean without money, you probably can't go dragon boat raising. NOPE, no, Yoga prime and I'm living in now and I know you're living on the hog now you're living, you're living in a penthouse, you're living in the luxurious apartment. HMM, one would yeah, I say, but that's that's the reason we work is to do some of these things, whether it's have you ever bought a car in China? Is that possible? I've never asked anyone possible, I wouldn't want to know. It's not a goodness of my money, then you're wise a Lonnie. I appreciate your time and I'm sure you and I will be talking again and take care and I know that you're a great teacher and all of this extra stuff is just as you said at the beginning, maybe for your resume, because you're already doing it. You're dedicated teacher willing to do all that you can to help children brow and I thank you for being here with me to thank you so much for having me. Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian v be sure to subscribe, follow and share with others so they too can be encouraged in their work. I hope that you have yourself a productive, be a joyful day in your work.

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