WhyWeWork BrianVee
WhyWeWork BrianVee

Episode 32 · 1 year ago

#32 Kene Iloenyosi Author Speaker Talent Evangelist BrianVee

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Kene's Books: 

Finding Your Sweet Spot: https://a.co/0oo8gss

DNA of Talent: A Blueprint for Discovering Your Talents and Putting Them to Work: https://a.co/fl0SZWa 

About Kene's Work: 

"Engagement is not about helping people up the corporate ladder, but about getting them on the RIGHT ladder."  

HOW WE HELPED ALEX: Alex loved his job when he worked hands on with clients and projects. He did such a good job, his company promoted him to manage the team. Alex was thrilled at first but soon became disillusioned; and his performance started to slip.  

In working with Alex, we discovered that he had high Spatial Relations Visualization ability. People with this ability need to be hands on at work. They need to be involved in work with concrete and often tangible results. With this information, and working with his HR Director, Alex was able to move back into a role where he was hands on with client projects. He was happy and his organization got the most out of him.  

WHAT WE DO: 

- Help young adults discover their natural abilities and how best to use them at work. 

- Help HR and Talent Development Directors align the talents of their young employees with the right teams and roles within their organization. 

- Empower employees to become proactive with creating their professional development plan. 

- Help teams increase productivity by teaching them how to work, learn and communicate based on their talents. 

 “The greatest lesson I’ve learned is that the best way to serve others is to discover and use my talents in a fulfilling career.” It is one thing to do your best, and another to give your best. You can only give your best when your natural abilities are engaged at work. This is what makes work fun and fulfilling.  

Contact us to learn how we can serve you. 

WWW.TALENTREVOLUTION.ME 

 Download my free Talent Discovery Worksheet at WWW.TALENTREVOLUTION.ME.

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Welcome to why we work with your hostin Brian VI, as he spees to meedle, like you from all over the world, as wetogether, Goin dive deeper into our motivations struggles, joys, seeminglymistep, warning and advice, which will be an encouragement to us all to get aget going and keep on workingworking Oworkingg. Now here's your house o whywe were Lindrininiam Rivi, whie wor. I have a great pleasure of speaking withKina Eloni Shi today and he will speak about work. This is his forte. This is what he doesfor a living trying to dig to root into the talentsthat lie within you. Every person has a talent. Every personhas a an ability, but not all people search it out. They don't all look forit. As for looking for gold, he realized this at a young age andhe's made it his life mission to help people find their talent and work welland work with joy. I'm glad you're here spending your timewith me in this conversation with this man kanay Ellonashi 'Brivy, and this is why we work- and Ihave the great pleasure of speaking to you today with CNA ILO in Yshi good dayfinds her. Did I butcher Abrin how Ye might well?Did I butcher it yeah you butrd it. I pusher it wich that is nobl ha l that is oit.Okay, I get my name Bushard Okit's, why it's Brian v? It just makes it. I thank you KNA for coming here, sir,for being on this podcast and taking the time to talk about work. If youwouldn't my pleasure, you would do me the honor of just a little introductionabout yourself. I have one at the beginning as a introduction to thepodcast, but just from your own words of little introduction, please well again, my name is Kene Ilonosi. Ilive in Atlanta, Georgia and I'm the founder of talent revolution and wehelp people find their career sweet spot. We believe that people arecreated in a certain way and how they are wired to determine how they work.You are how you offer why you are, and our job is just helping. Peopleunderstand how they are wired and helping them discover the right careerpath based on their natural abilities, and so that's what I do. fulltime ivewritten two books and I'm about to publish my third on the topic of talentand abilities and purpose. Can you bring us way back to when you got your first job?The first time you started making money on your own and how old were wal?That's interesting question: How old was Ithis was back, so I am Nigena and I'm Igiana. I my first job was a business. I've never never really held jobs. You kno where I worked for othersmost of my life. I've always had my own business, and so I I'm more comfortable talkingabout my first business venture out of...

...college sure, a partner with a friendof mine. We started a a marketing company that failed in in about for five months. WWHAT was the concept behind it. The concept was creating media, so in this case we're usingthese Um. What O you call like Sun vises. You know when you park your carin the since sometimes you have this big thing that you put in front of thinside the behijink he windscream exactly and so in ide. We wanted to usethat as a marketing platimom more orporations to print their low Goa andgive up to their customers. At that time. There was a big concert coming up in in the country andwee. We are ports Cocacola, yes, they seemed t interested, but at some pointsUm, I think they looked at these two young kids, tr fresh out of college andthought okay, good idea, but we don't think these two kids are smart enoughor strong enough to to handle this magnitude of a project so wehad put inso much money and that failed and we both went to our separate where hestarted a a janitorial company. I started a landscaping company with thatexperience. Can you explain to me why people do not advertise on masks? I at Man isn't that, like vital, realestate, space being could be used at this moment time. It is. It is right now Um. Maybesomeone has not thought about it yet because we're still in this, you knowwere sin in the pandemic, and so most people are thinking about. Well,companies are putting their loges. I see Amazon drivers MHM with theirs mylocal church. We have a Lowbon it, and so I don't think people have come upwith well. We can create masks and andbroider imprint your your businesslogo or uses as a marketing to surface yeah. What was yourmotivation, so you got into business out of college, but even before that,even though you may be reluctant to speak about, maybe some jobs you mighthave had or ways to make money. What was your driving force to even get intobusiness? Did you have some family influence? Did you just decide? Iwanted to do something different. I know I I I just the way I grew up. I grew up withparents who had traditional jobs. My Dad was on an engineer and he, you know,worked nine o five worked for the for the NI National Roaer Corporation. Youknow rose up in the ranks to senior executive level, but I always had this. You know some people say it's beinglazy, some People's Calle bean in w an Intrepreneo streak. I don't know. Ijust know that I have always loved my independence and just the desire tohave control of my time and how I work. It's it's something that has been inatein how I am wired and, as I started when been much oldernow using assessments to understand more about myself, it makes so much sense because I valuemy independence. If you've read, I think it's Thomas, the guy who wrote drive, I think it'spink from US pink one of the key things to job satisfaction is autonomy and man.I I value my autonomy. I value my autonomy. When did you start takingthese assessments to start find tuning your career path? When did you startfeeling this desired? Ok, even to where you are now n, in helping others. The first assessment I I took must havebeen in...

...about nineteen, maybe nineteen. Ninetynine. I was a missionary pastord in Zambia,Southern Africa, for about three years, and I believe that was the first time Itook an assessment. It was the the t's called the Florencelittorpersonality plan and, where Yo, ever what what a thos thin's called SanguineColle. You know Colerick, phlegmatic and ICARNBE, the fourth one and then most of the states, the one it started, making more senseto me when I moved to the state in two thousand and one got to in turn withJohn Maxwells, I don't know if you've head of John Maxel, who, who teachesleadership, I got to intern with this company equipped and my boss back. Thatwas the VI. One of the vice presidents had me take another assessment, the Disk Assessment Mhm,and so you know the picture started to form okay. This is this is how I amwired and I've just enjoyed taking different assessments asIV encountered them. I got into what I do today because again running a business withmy wife that I did not enjoy. She was like: Hey, listen, you're,you're, messing up Dheviving, the company you're coming in and Y. Youcome me crabby and all that we've got a company. It's now it's at leastfinancially. It's taking care of US take time off an go figure out what youwant to do, and this was in two thousand and seven, and so I started toexplore taking assessments. Thinking back to the things I I enjoy doing inyou know, back from from my post college till that time. That sorryreally was that was that just your wife or initially your wife, that said Kany you need to take a little break.Was it? Was it her? The initial one that noticed this in you and my wife was the one who said youneed to figure out what you want to do. All I kept saying was I don't so she'sa graphic designer and we have a graphic design company. I'm not C. I am not creative. I wasdoing the business side of things, but I never saw myself in W Wan I'm afuturistic person, I'm always thinking five ten years ahead. I couldn't seemyself doing this for the rest of my life, and so that was depressing. That wassort of Weng on me, but I didn't know how it was spilling out and she waslike this. He knew she de, but that's good on her right t to giveyou that time to I mean you know it, but like it's really good to have aspouse like that. Who gives you that time to to go, spread your wings to go,find what might be good and find your own talents Ithn. I think too, for Er Old Sanor,the Sik of a Marriag Itas, a nice waputti Ei was like okay. Listen! Ifyou don't think I Jus II going to be g trouble, you know so get your attogether! That's wonderful! No! My Wife! My wife is Amazeng. She is my Shis, mybiggest fen O' my biggest critic at the same time. Now so how she does 't holdby the assessments that you were doing, how hard. So what you learned is what you teach nowso in learning how to define your talents, your desires, your passions,how? How hard was that for a learning process? For you, especially somewhaton your own, like you, were reading books and going to maybe seminars andstuff, but it was your own discovery. How? How hard was that for you? I it 's. That's another interestingquestion. Question me: I wodn't say it was...

...hard because I enjoyed the process because I was not crunted for time that, okay, you mustfigure out what you want to do. We already had a business. I was too partof the business, so we we had this source of income, but theye are peoplewho don't have that. You know there in a job. They they work for someone or they'rein a business and they want to get out and so for them th. There's thatthey're more desperate, you know desperate to get out and figur thingsout Um. For me, it was more a progression. Ispent time doing a lot of introspection thinking through okay. How do I? Whatdo I really want to the first thing that I landedn was. I know I want to be aprofessional speaker that was wha number one thing had ben ad been atossed master for a while, and you know I'd get invited to speak at differentthing. I said: okay, I woant to be a professional speaker, step too. Well,if you're going to be a professional speaker, what is your topic ory aboutthe I said professional speaker was there? Did you see someone? Did You d? Do idle someone to idolize someone, or isit just someone you experienced like I? I can do that. I I have that talent.What what reremember remember! I said I had beena pastor, yeah missionary for three years I've been Ai. Actually, as as aBisioner, I passed O churches. So I was speaking some weeks. I was speakingfive times a week, sometimes twice a week, so I already had that thing ofgetting up to speak and o mover joint tossemasters stillgot back into speaking and John Maxwell is someone who I admire and I kept telling myself and everytime I hear him speak, I I can do this. I I'd love to you, K. ow get paid tospeak, so he he he for one. In many ways Imean is helpd me in so many ways. Menterin me from my FA.I don't know him personally, AD Mitma a number of times, but his men told methrough his books and his lessons, and so I asked myself okay, I want I'd like todo this. Ethe next thing is well. What will beour topic? You know he speaks on leadership. Ther are ther people whospeak on market in ther people who've speak one different things. I did not want to speak on leadership,even though I enjoyed speaking on leadership, I wanted to find a newcallit Nitin, and so, as I again intospection and thinkingback, I asked myself what topics you know. Wh t what topics got meexcited. What was I pasing o? How can you and yourself you knot just the branding before youbefore you brand yourself? It's asking yourself what excites you. You know w. What? What do you seeyourself talking about constantly for some people T S it's a natural processand for me I I enjoy talking about purposen purpose. When I talk with friends they you knowpeople that knew m. When I was a kid they said, we had loved discussionslike that. As a kid I'm like, are you kidding m you SA yeah? You know againbe future ristic. I was always thinking, okay. What do you Antoao? What do youwant to do, and so I started exploring how that would look comingfrom you know, going outtide the Christian World Whare, I could talk tomore people and I settled on helping people understand their natural talents,because your purpose...

...works with your talents, how you're,naturally wired- and so that's how I started on you, know speaking on talents and thenright in to my first book called finding you a sweet spot, and that waswhat really launched the speaking career. I was not coaching back, then Iwas just speaking professionally, but every time I'd speak people wouldhave more questions. So how do I implement this? Okay, youhave exercises in your work in your book. Id get emails, I get calls well.How do I work on this Oll? This is what I did, and this is what I'm doing now, and one thing has led to ano that wedeveloped a based on the book, a friend of mine, developed a course that wetried to implement. But again that did not work. I wrote another book to takepeople deeper into the topic of talent and from there I found an assessment that would help peoplediscover their natural abilities. Most succe assessments out there focus onpersonality, which is good. What your personality is just one sliced of you, and I was looking for something thatwas broader than just your personality, and I use an assessment called thehighland ability battery and once ID landed on that I was like okay. I can develop a coaching program basedon this, so what would you out of your discoveryof yourself and then into sharing it? What what is is the talent? What is thetalent that bubbles is there? Is there a way to define a person's talent? Defining is not always the the I tell people not to try to define,because once you start to define you're looking for the word Nokan a Y, a thisjust focus on describing what you enjoy doing see of yourself.What you think of yourself and the the key thing iways Tel people to do is goback to between Wentheyre between Eighge, one and Tenyou have tounderstand that your natural abilitys, where wire into you, while you arestill being developed, but while you're sti being formed in the womb, they areneuro pathways in the brain, so children are born with certainabilities and they interact with their environmentbased on how they are wired and the interaction with theirenvironment manifests itself in how they play so for children play is their work and theyr playing based on how they arewired. So I ways tell people go back to when Youre between one and ten thinkabout how you played what was the thing you kept. You K, ow unconsciously doingover and over again what kind of child were you? What did you hear yourparents or adults around you say about you? Often sometimes you may come across asnegative Ol. This job is too talkative o this child asks too many questions orthis child's always yes, so it's yeah, yeah, yeah it it's it it'. It's tthe child who want, who wants to be an engineer who wants to Bild is the onewho's always trying to open up the TV or open up the FOORL and open upwhatever it is? They may not know how to put it back. What do you say? Sorry, what? What doyou say to the child that had I interviewed some one, the other daythey said from four to ten. They had a life from hell, so they weren't their norm. They werehated within the home that they went to and they were despised and abused. Whatdo you say to them that didn't really...

...play as a child should play and they'restill trying to discover their talent, your external, the EXELA external environment, in no way takes away how you are wired,so yeah? What it does is that it distorts Itso. It's the child or the P,the adult thinking back to okay, even though I was in this environment, howdid I adapt and for a lot of people? Unfortunately,they adapted negatively, because you also have to understand how the human,the human mind works, even as children, children in a bit to survive, take on a personality that aid thatsurvival. So if compliance is what aids the survival unconsciously, the childbecomes complains. If it's M, you know pretending to be like someone else. Ifit's BEIN aggressive, everybody is different. Everybody has a different,naturally different, Copino adaptation mechanism. So so even the person who,from age, four to ten encountered negative environment may have me, havehad this constant thought about. Oh I'd love todo this, or when they were alone, they found themselves defaulting to. Let mejust read: I can escape in reading. I can escape in singing. I can escape in.I know Plang with whatever comes their way. There's always something in yourchildhood that I call I call thus your sparts of talent. If not, then using assessment, you can still explore how you are wird, because youryour natural wiring does not ch. Read you how you are you're rediscovering.What's already there and not looking at those things on the outside, yyou must come. Do you come across a lot of peopleasking questions like this asking you know after they read your book, finding the sweet spot and DNA and whatis the the next one that you have coming out? The funny thing about it is that the the book is ready, but I don't have aTig Aga. We always put the title on Lass. I mean that's good. Otherwise, ifyou put the title on m first you're you're, determined by you, dictate howyou're going no write it. It's it's interesting, but the firsttwo books, the title. The titles were IIN. No, the tids E invise a Er writing,but this one has been interesting by them. So, as you write the book as youwrite- and he will listen to you, do you get bombard with lots of questionsabout? You know how to find my talent and even though you've written about itand what kind of questions are you getting most often the biggest tha the I get all sorts of questions, but theone that people struggle with the most and which I think is the most importantquestion is a lot of people do not believe theywere born with talents. A lot of people don't believe they wereborn, wih, talent and nd, and that belief often hinders them from discovering their talents because to discover you have to search, and so, if you don't believe you havetalent, you don't think there's any point in searching are youre nowforecased on hey. Let me focus on my skills, because I need my skills towork. Yes, you need your skills to work, but your skills should support yourtalents. If you are in, if you are...

...employed simply based on your skills,it's not a matter of. If it's a matter of when you will burn ours, you burn out UNTI. I I spend a lot oftime. Helping people understand that they arewired. I chertainway and wish, as we start to ask questions what often comes out is, as e no startto identify certain patterns. What they say to themselves is like. Oh,that cannot be a talent. Everybody should be able to do that. I no it's easy for you, because you arenaturally wire that way, and that now starts helping them. Youknow see that, oh anything, you do naturallywell is a talent. Often they think about whe.You talk about talents, they think about all the you know. The well paidexecutive of well paid basketball, Maon well paid musician. No, how you think your the depth of yourcuriosity is a natural ability. You know, Y. Yourspecial reasoning is: is an ability walking into a room and intuitivelyknowing who the you know the packing order? You know those are all naturalabilities, but it's helping people realize that whatever that thing is that comes naturally to you, it's a tool that you should use at workand o once we get them past that the next question now becomes okay. How doI use these abilities? Do you find there's a correlation with people who,if you said to them? Oh this is your talent and they dismiss it with people who really believe theydon't have that talent versus someone who thinks they might have that talent,but they don't have the confidence to build upon it. Do you find there's those the diconomyth the difference between the two one says I really don't have that, eventhough other people see it in them and the other ones may have it, they knowit but they're, not confident with it to build upon it. Do you find you comeacross people like that yeah I do. I do and always tell people. I don't and Ineed to stake this. I don't help you. I can't tell you your talents.I can. I can guide you, you know through the process. Even when we workcoaches in my field. Well, whey say you can't tell someone what they are. You have to teach them. How to discover.All you can do is affirm whathy what they're discovering aboutthemselves now for the person who believe they don't have an ability or does N. maybe they don't have theconfidence again that a confidence issue hm it's a confidence issue. The often the problem is that they assume that if something is atalent, then they should be at the top of their game. No, your talent makes you natural for mostpeople. Your talent makes you naturally average isay. That again, your talent makes younaturally average with skill and practice. You can takethat average quickly to excellence. Everybody is born, average, everybody'm, sorry, nobody came out of the WOM perfectly formed Eh, woreven, moresight, even Mocaeen, the Famo Einstein, the famous geniuses. There genius still have to be developed,even though they developed it at much...

...younger ages. So we all come out average, but youryour average is unique to you. That's why that's Wer! It becomes a talent,it's unique to each person. Do you equate the word talent with gift andcalling and calling as well? You know, especially in the circle's Christians SICA. The word calling isthrown out a lot and then someone may feel go ahead. Gifts, talents abilities same thing:justsementics calling is how the gifts a used, not the gifts, calling is how the gifts I usually maybe called to be. I mean, unfortunately, and I use theterm infortunately for a reason, because in the Christian world we there's the misconception that acalling is restricted to you know Christian work, wo Calle to bea Pastom cal to be a missionary. No a Calli ou can be called to be. Abusinessman can be called to be an account and you can call to be amusician. Ou can be called to be a pilot. This is what you've been called to do.It's what you says that man this is my life purpose. What do you do each day now? So what iswhat takes up the bulk of your day when you're not writing a book? Inparticular, how do you? How are you, how do you define your jobin your work? Tha, famiy things. I do many hols when I'mnot writing. When I'm, not writing. I am calling. I have a program that apartner with colleges to help them courch their court. The alumni who arefive plus years, you know Post College and I've been inthe workforce for a while and are dissatisfied with their jobs college career serviceesteems. Don'thave the time to go in depthwith those arloe. You know this ca category ofalumni, so I spend time either cold, calling schools and introducing myprogram. You know different colleges are a different levels. Some ar Ou knowGeorgia, tech and Merca University Ar Clients, and we Y we're coaching thathe the alumni. We have other colleges that are ste in the pipeline, exploringand figuring out how to implement this. So I do that, like I said, I am still involved with the graphic designbusiness and so ever when, when when I am needed, I will handle some businessfor that. I we obviously we we have to do our books,anything related to accounting, I'm constantly brushing up on my coachingskills, something else I do part time is: Executive Communication, coachingfor a company called speech, works, and so there times where I travel, eventhough we're not travelling out because O cobed but th, I have seasons in theyear where you know that takes up some of my time as well. When we go out tocorporations to teach executive communication skills. Is Your program specifically or who is your programspecifically geared towards which program the Karaco Jink CareerCoaching? Are you even jumping back into high school as well or evenearlier? I don't do high schools or earlier thereare other coaches that use the highland ability batteries that specialize. Inthat I focus on people who have been in theworkforce five plus years. Is there a...

...ream? I have a few parents. Is there areason Um, because that's the audience my book andmy content targets so based on the on the assessment IA've developed afour week, coaching curriculum, afor, wee class, it's Don Verzoom, and so I targetpeople who have been outside work for a number for thesenumber of years. They've developed skills that we can harnessstrategically. Their needs are just different, th y t they've been in theworkforce and they felt that frustration of not being happy withtheir jobs that I can relate to, because I feltthe frustration of not being happy. In my words, Theye are people who you knowwho work with college students that people who work with high schoolgsidents. I that's just not my target audience. It's Funnybe E. I worked withsome of them yeah, but they're, not my talkb. It's funny coming from Canada,myself and then moving to Korea where jus and I think, maybe in maybe anupper class UM citizens in Cana of the United States.They plann their children's education from a very young age. They knowexactly where they're going to go in Korea. That's that's more the norm! Sofamilies will move to specific cities and towns to get their kid into thiselementary school, because that elementary school leads to this middleschool in that middle school to that high school and then university's, noteven the biggest thing it's getting into those good middle school highschools and that allows you they. I relax in university. Middle School HighSchool is the stressful time of studying six seven days a week until twelveo'clock at night and up at seven like up at six Mil Chool. So I'm justthinking from that perspective and you get a lot of people that they're goingto school for that job, that their parents have told them is good for them,and the idea of joy and I' like to know your idea of joy in the workplace, Ithink, is largely lacking over here in in Asian countries m. It is I just based on on my research, UM th t the culture, it's the raray task, oriented very much sogreat task, oreented, and so who know who knows where? How that came?aboutyounger generations who have spent time in the West are more open to yeah. I want to explore. Maybe in maybe theWestern Society Um has you know the liberal arts expression may have beeninfluentain that have I been influential in that way of thinking,but I I see that it's quite common in Asian societists to even even eventhose of them. You know Chinese Japanese Koreans who live here. Youknow there's that okay thoy'e going to the school this s the way you're goingto study and I've courched a few who are like man, okay. I was on this pathto be you know a doctor or a scientist or one. I think, there's ona lawyer and at ome point they realize that M.that's that's not what I want to do. Yeah, that's Whyai, do go to NorthAmerica is to get away from that idea in a mindset. How do you define where do you place joy in the workplaceor within the person WHO's working? Having a joy for what they're doing andwhere's that balance? I don't. I don't use the term joybecause of just again for me from my from my Christian background, because...

...joy is, is I don't know Yo much about youraudience? But again, this is just mes from my Christian faith. Joy Is, is thespiritual gift hm, and so you can be in torment and crisis. I'm going throughthe worst thing where there's joy, joy is not happiness. Happiness is based on okay, a goodthing has happened, and you know my emotional reflect that joy. Is thisconstant elevated emotion of Kece satisfaction gratitude you knowfeingsof safety, regardless of what is happening on the outside. So with whatI do. I am forecased on satisfaction and fulfilmentness work, satisfaction workfulfillment inAmerica. The term they use is engagements. Are you engaged at work, and so it it's that's. That's the index I useand people who are not working in there with their talents,for the most part will not be satisfied at work because, even though they may enjoy theenvironment enjoy the people they with whom they work. The actual work they dois not fun. You know andto they're, just using thisfor to earn a paycheck on man. That is some that's ot of fun place to be so Iguess a better question is how essential is it to have jobsatisfaction and engagement with your job and is it required at all times oris there a satisfaction you can get outside of your work that can balancethat ow for you, yeah m. You know I get that questionquestion a lot and my res My COMBAC is you: Can you know play the traditionalmind? Tet of a job is a job and you need to be responsible and go earn andtake care of your family when you work in a job where you are not satisfied.Five days a week, you spend two days recovering a get aet Friday, Itsr oot Monday,Friday Monday. You know it's Friday and you spend two days recovering from yourmisery of the last five days, only to go back to go repeat the same thing forthe next five days, the week after that, when you work in a job where yourtalents are engaged and you are fulfilled, you work harder. You are moreproductive by the end of the week. You are spent mhm, but you spend yourSaturday and Sunday recharging. So it's your choice. You can choose torecharge or choose to recover and most which would you rather do wellrecharge? Most people are recovering. We'll start most are most on what is most difficultabout your job in in what you do in trying to encourage people, try todirect trying to direct people and even in your writing and and doing otherbusinesses? What is most difficult for you Nyour work, my work as a coach. I find I find sometimes what I findI'Mno if it's, if it is most difficult, but for me it is very frustrating aftimes where people go through my coaching program. I do there's some people that thatdon't have the time to do the going to the cohor the coching session and theywant one on one and so some of them. You know, regardless of group, questionon one on one coaching: they go through it. They see what they can do with theoutcome, but because the E in a job that Sirequires Thar Day today, attention they...

...get busy and they don't implement. Youknow the transition strategy we put in place, and so I've had people reach outto me a year a year and a half after going through the programe and sayinghey, I need help like you need help with what youalready have o Hon. you know, and so I thought I understand, and all I keepselling people is that, yes, I understand that you are busy butunderstand that you will always be busy and you have to intensionally carve outthe time to implement the strategy you put in place through the program. Thislead dwell into a question I had for you about lifelong learning. Where doyou see that in the individual's life and and how they make best use of theirtime? I think we should all be learning. I think it's junkmaxell. That said, if you're, not learning you'R Dying Sho, we should you know the brain isthe I think, the brain and the ear. I have the only two organs that can thatdon't stop growing on the brain gross by making new neural connections,not by growing as a mass. U We should be learning it it. It's critical! It'sit's critical, no matter what you do! It's funny, and probably you can attestto this as well as some of the people online, who are taking covet M, takingadvantage of covet in learning doing something new finding some, you knowdiscovering their talents and making the best use of their time learningsomething while other people a lot of other people. You know sad anddepressed thinking, the world's going to end and nothing's ever going to getbetter and there's those mindsets that that need to be challenged. Yeah at the beginning of the, I think II think I wrote this in March April, I wrote a an article on Linton called. I think I said it's, it's reset.Don't rest. I think that was the title of it and encouraging people to usethis time, because at that, at that time Wal we all had this notion thatthis would last just three months. You know, I don't know why. I thought thatanyway, but we all had this notion that okay, three months and things will befine- and I was like use this time to reset and not rest and for me one of the way I reset was. I wrote the book I said to myself- I Imust come out of this time. With this bullet something mean I had content onall that, but it was now pull it all together and because my pretty much my income, I mean I'd, befrank with you. My income had gone down about ninety percent because I was oncoachingnothing was happening, so I had the time you know I hade the time, andthere are many people who who I know use this time well to either I read totheir business. You know Retham something come up with a new, offeringa lot of people really use this time. Well, you can moarn complain about what was going onor you can. You know, sit down and ask yourself: okay. What will I get out of this? What willI learn? What will I do? What will I change? We we all deal with theemotional stress or the P. You know what they call the periodicdepressionolike man when the heck will this and sometimes y? U Look at your.You know your savings depleting and Al that you're like ah what's going on,but you should focus on the things you can control Seez them hom. You know. If you...

...seize the movment carpet, an you know,seize the day, do what you can if I focus on the things that I cannotcontrol, it makes my situation worse because I can't control it. But when I focus on doing the things Ican control, it gives me a sense of fulfilment achievement and with, if you, if you look at it fromthe standpoint of you, know, Fr farmers Sol when things are it's or of in in inthe dead seasonr okay. But if you're planting during thegrowing season, you're too late, you're too late, and so that that'sthat's the the atitude I like to take. Okay in this dead season, grow, growlearned, adapt, switch change, transform because once things kick backup, those who have built that most of thosewho have built up will be ready to engage thepeople who are ready to work andto some people who may be listening. This mayseem like upper shelf type stuff, but things as simple as going out with youR, revising your resume right, joining a Lington walking around to a local business andjust seeing about another job. Just you know: There's people writing books anddoing blogs and podcast, and all of that, but some of the lower level stuffor simpler stuff or first initial stepstuff are just as important forsomeone to get going and to keep going in developing those muscles. MHM INE, like I like you before, O realonit. You talked about your resume yeah. You know look at your resume, but I think I wro I read about this in myfirst book. What I call the curse of your resume. A lot of people are cursed by theirresume because you get a job mhm out of college and you develop skills to besuccessful in that Jom and at some point you realize. Oh, I don't likethis job. I need to get another job, so you brush up your resume, but theskills you list in your resume Ar ecuse you. You know the job that you we want toleave, and so you get off I a similar job with, but with more benefits, morepay and you're like wo a new job and the psycle repeats itself, and so what you're doing is you'regetting better you're becoming more efficient in a career that you don'tlike just car, Sir ver it it just kined over. So I tell people reveras me, but more than that. Take the time to if you want to do you,K, ow that look back at your between age, one and ten or use an assessmentthat helps you uncover your natural abilities and then wewrite your resumeto reflect how you have used your natural abilities in the positionsyou've held, because all it does is that it starts to create a narrative ifyou're telling somebody that I am strong in this, because I am wire thisway. You want them to see how the strengths have bein used in thedifferent positions you've held. I think I've I heard you say somethingalong the lines and I'm KINDOF revamping it with not to make outbetter, but rather than saying look at the rocks that I've been, you knowbringing from one job to another. Look I'm a good rockgetter, you're, you'repolishing, the diamond you're cutting the diamond you, rather than just therock itself, or refining the oil and doing that you're bringing it over notjust say I I dig oil. I did rocks. Look I'm going to do it over here, but lookat the things I purifyed and lookathe...

...things. I've accomplished through mydigging yeah or even the efficient winwhich. Ihave been able to transport the rock from point eight to point B. I lovelogistics. I no just ki in it absolutely what is rather than asking your joythat you have in your job. What is the satisfaction that you do get? What is a way that you're so engaged inwhat what part of that brightens your day when you experienced that withother people o one when I love tha, t e Ahar moments whenpeople start to see and identify something thattheyhave done for years as a talent, they did not know what wasa talent, because again, you can't hide from how you are Wid, but you just see that as okay, it'swhat I do. Some people are not even awar: They just do it. It's almost likea fish in water fish does no rait in water to you, take it out of water, andso when people have that identification ofMan Oky. This is something unique about me: There's a shift and how they seethemselves. That's one. The second thing thatreally gets me excited is when I get a letter or a note from a client who hasgone through the program. They've implemented the things we talked about,and they are now in that job, the difference from where they were away.They are now it's like. You know so for me that that is my satisfaction in someatjust brings me so much fulfill some ways. If you see them through yourprogram, it's like children, growing up and and graduating and yeah doing it.Yeah Yeah it is O has is leaker as a coach. What is something that people do notunderstand about the work that you do, that you would like them to understandwhether it's a difficulty or just you know just so they could have a betterunderstanding. What is something people probably don't understand? So ifsomeone wants to be a speaker, if someone wants to be a coach- and theycan understand this- that might help them get the rightfoot in in the rightorder. Hm Interested, I think, morebeing a speaker than Ha Bein, acoach, it's still a business yeah and often I know so many people whohave talked about you know going into professional speaking. People who arewho are toss masters and they wantto get into professional speaking and theyget into it and encounter the business side of speaking hm. And if you knowlike any business, you need your marketing strategy. You know cold calls,your administration, your follow up, whan, there's just so much to do beyondthe actual getting off in front of an audience to speak. You know or or getting Ou know getting this group tocoach. There is a business and a lot of people underestimate what it takes todevelop, that business process. Yeah Yeah, I still I still cold call Um. I still I meanabout an hour and a half ago, someone slammed the fhone of me yeah, it's it's it's the nature of coldcoling, but am I going to take that personally? No, the person does notknow me. I obvioustly interrupted that day andso hey click notgon. I won't let that damp on my mood Um, but some a lot ofpeople can't take that a d because they still don't see that there's a businessaspect to this. For I like to as we tone things down here, yeah isthink about people who are not working,...

...maybe students or people just out ofcollege five years or so someone not liking their job, notrealizing their talents. Someone forgetting you know their motivation asto why they work. What advice do you bring to the table for them? I say the first thing you want to do is discover your natural abilitye todiscover your talents. If you don't have you don't if, if you can't affordto pay to work with a coach start with looking back from, you know to whenoarbetween one and twelve one and ten, sorry, I one to ten that's the age ofinnocence. You are simply manifest in how you are natually wire, so think, back to how you like to play. What games were you playing often andthen, if you have, if your parents are still alive or siblings or relatives, you know people who arethere in your childhood, get on the phone and ask them pay when I was a kid,what do you remember about me? What did I like doing often, what was what werethe things that stood out and just at making notes you' be amazed at how muchyou were learning a few things will recur. You start to see a recurring patternand ont you see those recurring patterns. Those are most likely,IRNATURAL Abilitye, they call them sparks, and then the question you knowhave to start to ask yourself: Is Okay with these sparks: How do they show themselves up in my life today asan adult, regardless o way, Yu be in college high school or in Your Thirties?How do these sparks show up today? U Can I develop those spots and then,with these parks, these things that I t I see. What can I make up them in a job? Howdo I use them in a job? How do I you know sharpen, then? What skills do Ineed to develop to use these abilities it I'm thinkingof from one to ten- and maybe I can attest to this too- is if you're askingother people family and, and they recognize something it's a goodrelationship. Builder too. Is it not as you're talking and you're rediscoveringsomething about yourself when you were younger, you youre more innocent timeand people bringing things in and maybe getting pastsome things that you'vedone al along the way that got you off path, but now you're, bonding anddeveloping with people a a relationship trying to get to the the core of whoyou are N ind, your natural taents, which, as you said with your wife, isyou know a good thing, especially when you're working together and it wasn'tthe best of situations in in that way. So you're developing in your buildingwith one another Kena yeah yeah, I it can be iy can beyeah. Is there? Is there anything else that you would like to say or add thatwould be of benefit or even just something a off the top of your head? Iknow you have find the sweet spot. You have DNA, you have another book comingout. Is there yeah, so the books, my my Bo, the books are won finding yoursweet spot? Yes, the second one is d talent. We don't know the title of thethird one, but it's it's it's about working in your purpose. Weshould the Goalis to publish a and have it out in December, so that people canread it in preparation for two thousand and twenty one Um, but my heart beat to people to yourlisteners. Whoever as liing is. This is no that you are a unique being there's no other, you you've never beenalive and the day you die, you will...

...never be alive. You are alive this time for reason within youare certain gifts and ability that everyone around you needs. The questionis: Will you take the time, make the effort, the investment, to figure outwhat your gifts are and how you are meant to serve your community withthose gifts and abilities. We need what you have the world needs. What you haveyou know just some. You know Massof dn and blood roaming, the earth you're youa unique beang, and for me that is just so that you know pounds heavy within me, figure out how you are wired, O thatyou can live the life you are supposed to live because it's it's your life,it's it's! It's it's your gift, it's and, and we need it. It's relieving toknow. We have a purpose and thet we're not just floating around aimlessly withno purpose couple of our questions, though, how do you rest? What do you do?Hen your rest when you're not working when you're, not thinking about workand encouraging other people to work? And what do you do to rest? Well that, interestingly, now with withwith Kobe becausegelot of time? Well, I'm not hold, I can put it with withcoved I'd say you have to we have to be. Ihave to be intentional about resting because laying down- and you know, watching mindless T v in the past- used to be a way of resn some people mysa this guy. I thoughtthis guy was smart. Well, Hey, I'm just being honest Um! I sit the tin. U Justlay down on the couch and Yo. Now we live in the suburbs of Atlanta andsitting outside in my backyard Oblo in an ice green space that helps merestins, um. Being with friends where we havein anengaging conversation, helps me rest, O Thi, I'm talking about like briefmovement of Bres, you and you know again, postcoved taking time off goinginto the mountains, for you know three days four days. That, for me, is a big way ofjustecompressing going into no into the north Georgia mountains, but now withcobed I mean I run, I'm around a him. That's way I blasting Iran and th the few times we have to just chipchat with our neighbors. That also helps me. I love running running hasbeen something my whole life it just you and the road ore you in the trailyou an the path, it's nice to have a little MP three orsomething going on, but K unny enough. I I I hate running with,and a lot of people talk. U I I don't like running with music. I want to heareverything and being touched with my environment, a I have one of thoseweird one. No I it's nice too. I do that on occasion I have a like an audiobook or something that I go through a couple more, very short, questions CAA.How has work brought you through life, so thinking back as far as we went backto your college days- and you know your business planned not going so well andthen all of your jobs ever since how has work been a constant in your life um? It's always been that it's been there fordifferent reasons. There were times where work was just there as hey. Ineed to be responsible. I need to you, know, burn an income or I am buarningthis income, but I know I am capped here and I need to figurehow to earn more, so its work hasplayed different roles in my life...

...til. I guess after the Book Came Out inTwenty Twelve, where I now got into speaking professionally. Well now, okay,it was no longer working for income or working to be responsible now working to fulfill. My purpose, and once I hitthat there's a big big, big, big, big, big transition for me CANEA. How can Ihave one more question? But how can people reach you? How can they find you? My website is talent, revolution, dotme Talant Revolution. Dot Me reach out. I have a contact form if you want tosend me an email, Kenna Kene at talent, revolution, dot me that's great and youcan subscribe here and Hint Tha notification as well. One finalquestion, sir: Why do you work to fulfil my purpose short and sweeten to the point CNA? That's it I'm going to butcher it,but please be gracious with me. As you have been Kani Trust you haven't beenthe FR. You will not be the LAS, it's amazing. Sometimes I go. I'm invited tospeak to a corporation, I'm on this big state and the person introducing me thepractice racticed a wance to get up on stage they butcher on 'm, like I laughit off and I say hey if you I so I'll, take some time o go ahead as aprofessional, ofthe professional speakers. I have you know a start upfor when the person gets it correctly and I haven't opening for win theperson butches it. So I don't make the person feel awkward and the audience isnot. You know awkward, so don't worry about it. Well, Iunderstand I I'd always go back to when we got my friends and I got pulled overby the police and he s I'm like he's. What's your name, I said my name'sBrian Vashers, he goes oh thats es tator, it is and he knew it better thanI knew, because it's a French name and I'm like okay got it right, so Aa Hiloand your shape. You go close they're getting closer.Getting better, do say this ten times and you'll be you'll, be good. I'vesaid it many more than that. Oh thank you kind, sir you've been greatand I hope people go, find you and read your newbook. That will be titled WhenIT GAS OUT EA. Thank you so much for this, and Ireally commend you on what you are doing and your commitment to doing this I mean, in the short timeyou've been up to I've gotten the number of podcast. That's that's hug.If you don't know many people who start podcast don't have as many as youyou've had in Biltinin one month. So I have a gracious job. Well, DocorGracious, wife, Toiti or she just pushef you off to fid mytalent. What are the other one of the other Hani? Have you seen tthere's th, there's the ad there's a! I don't know I mean if you how much yousee of a t v Ads from the state, the famousstate farm ad J from State Fan. I know the stateansag there', there's a famous on about theguy who's downstairs. You know late TAT night talking on the phone and his wifecomes down and she's like who are you talking to who you talking to, and itlooks at her s like Jake from state farm and she's like Gim, I that phone,I don't believe, t you're talking to a girl nd. She grabbs the phone, what's your name and is Li Uh Jake fromstate farm? What are you weaghing, Um, Kakipantona rich, and so,...

...if your wife ever wonders who you'retalking to you know later at night, let er go watch an it'snot, always mypodcast. I got it up. There say honey, Yeahi Watch, I don't have time, butthen it makes me understand that not all people have time to watch podcasts,not as much as I wish. They'd had no, no thank you kind, sir. I won'tbutcher. I Will Butch R it again so so that goes in someone else's brain Cana,Yelo in Yoshi. Thank you kind, sir, and for all of your work. Thank you. Thank you very much stay intouge, okay and thanks for Havpingming. Thank you for listening to this episode,O why we Werewi Rini, be sure to subscribe and follow and share withother MES, so they two canencourage ther worn. I hope that you haveyourself inproductive and Joyful Dayin Your Work.

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