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Episode 84 · 2 years ago

#84 Josiah Teddy Kinlock - Singer/Songwriter/Producer - BrianVee WhyWeWork


Josiah Teddy Kinlock is a music artist. Josiah is a singer, songwriter, and producer. Having Caribbean roots, he has travelled the world making music within various genres such as Reggae, Reggaeton, Bahamian, Junkanoo, R & B, Rake & Scrape, Salsa Soca + others. He has worked with Bob Marley, George Harrison, Keith Richards, and Elvis Costello, to name a few.

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"Josiah Kinlock ~ dynamic performer: started as a percussionist and has worked Internationally with many recording artists, live performances, studio sessions, and tv shows in the Bahamas, Cuba, Greece, UK, U.S., Canada

He has worked in Hollywood with the famous Ry Cooder, and Jim Keltner the world famous drummer for Roy Orbinson at Mary Tyler Moore studios in Hollywood doing sound tracks for films. As well such recording artists as Tony McKay (toured and performed with him), Elvis Costello, George Harrison, Bruce Gary of the Knack, and the Neville Bros. at Round by The House Studios in Hollywood with Ivan Neville and Keith Richards of the Stones. Josiah has had a 4 year association with Bob Marley and The Wailers and close friend of Junior Marvin.

Josiah also has road managed for Kiriba Int. Mr. John Blackwood as a touring road manager for all of his International Reggae Acts touring the U.S. Working in the Bahamas with the Falcons Band and Entertainment Network as well in Cuba with the Institute of Cuban Music including the Rap/Reggae Agency and CubaDisco their Cuban Music Awards. Josiah now performs with some of the top Cuban Salsa Reggaeton Artists and the 1st Caribbean Artist to win a Cuba Disco Music Award.

~~~~~~~~Currently Josiah is making a few videos for some of his latest songs~" (LinkedIn, 2020)

Welcome to why we work with your host Brian V. As he speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which would be an encouragement to us all to get up, get going on and keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now here is your host to why we work. Brian V. Um, Brian V. And this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure. Speaking with Josiah Teddy Kinloch Josiah is a singer songwriter, producer of reggae, salsa, R and B music out of the Bahamas. I want to find out today from him, since he's been in the industry for four decades. How hard is it? How hard is the grind? How does he do it? Each and every day, No matter what industry were in, you have to respect someone in something in particular for 40 years. So join me in my conversation with Josiah Teddy Kinloch. I'm Brian V. And this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure speaking with Josiah. Teddy Kinloch. Good. What do you What do you have over there. You have the the evening? Yes. Evening. Good evening, sir. Yeah, Mhm. Thank you, Josiah, for coming on here. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. Can you Can you give us a little snapshot of who you are and what you're doing nowadays? Mhm. Well, um, I'm an artist, musician, songwriter, director After, um, I kind of like do it all in the entertainment field. It's a love that came with the body, you know, and a talent that came with the body that, um whatever I go to do, I put my order is like, I don't do things unless it's like it's a need for me or it's grabbing me, you know? Come on, man, come to this. And that's why I'm at peace with I got a chance created and do something that I enjoy doing. Joe's I I saw you on linked in and I thought I would really like to speak with you and and looking at your profile and looking at some of the videos that you have online. You've been in the industry for four decades at least. But I wonder I wonder what would have been your very first job, even if it wasn't music related, maybe as a teenager or, you know, just an adolescent. My very first job, I was 12 years old. I should eat a lot, and Mama's to say, Man is better clothing than then feed him. So I guess being on an island in the Bahamas, there were steak houses and college of downtown and, you know, hotels. So I think around 12, I got a job as a bus boy and the Bootleggers Statement Steakhouse on Bay Street. And that was my first job. And I had I had a very similar first job like that. Maybe my second job or some but I worked as a bus boy is quite interesting. Did you take that money? You said your mom. It's easier to clothe you than feed you. Was the motivation to bring money home? Or was it just so that you could buy your own food and buy some things that you want it? What was the motivation? Well, the motivation was, um I guess, to bring money home and to be able to by the things that I wanted to buy, um from loving job and it was. It was it became a great education. Has been experiencing me from that I am. When the bartender would leave at night, I'd go behind the bar and I started believing a bar boy. So I started learning, um, busboy as well as Bob Boy and the same evening. You know how they had to clean the bar, come down making syrups, and then bring it in and prepare the bomb. And then when I come to my bus boy station set up there and said of the bar, How old were you when you started working in the bar? When I start working in the bar, I was troubled. It's still it's still a 12 as the barbell. Yeah. Like for the 12. 12 to 13. Yeah. That one year thing...

...between was quite experiences of nice up to date. Steakhouse Way had in the local hotel, which is an historic hotel. British colonial. There was a great musician here. His name is, um, Adams. No, Adam senior. And he had an orchestra. And when they finished at nine at hotel, they would come down, chill bootleggers and play until 11. Um, this place was owned by a Canadian guy, John Tom Wilson. And it was great. It was some really nice. It's a beautiful steakhouse. I learned a lot. I grew up in that in that steak house. I grew up, man. So were you introduced to playing music around this ages? Well, or even earlier? What? Did that not come until later? Um, that it was always around. I was playing a little, you know, with friends. Goatskin drum. What? I didn't take it serious until later. Okay. So did you get some other jobs along the way, then after bus boy or bar boy from the bootlegger in? I think I worked in every hotel in asshole or the strip. Yeah, from you move. Here you go. Toe one hotel. Yeah. Ah, bellman taken bags up to the room. Next job will be in the in the kitchen or you do you know, you just stay working because we had seasons. You know, the window was our season where tourists come to the Bahamas in the seasons to get away from the call. So how many years? I mean, even now, in some ways, you you probably have some gigs that go in hotels or at least in the in the area, for the time that you worked in the hotel industry, tourism and hospitality, can you comment on how difficult that is? I have a little bit of experience working in a hotel, and you really even well, as a musician. But in the hotel industry, it's really hard. And so you're talking about a lot of people international people coming in, and you really have to put you know, your smile on. Even if you're going through a difficult time, you have to deal with customers that want the best, because this might be there, one dream vacation or you get people who are always on vacation and they want things right all the time. How difficult is that day in a day, especially as a teenager? Well, but in those days there was a different type of tourists. Okay, most of our tourists were repeat tourist that would come every year twice a year, three times a year, so you get to know most of our guests. Will I come? This was a little resort for the rich and famous. From that time where we had private casinos. The Bohemian Club then on Paradise Island U boat over. You know, there was no bridge. You have to get over there. So we kind of grew up basically as a domesticated type, kind off, um, way of life. The man in the construction industry building on the women and kids somehow into into the hotel or tourist industry selling straw, working in the market, place downtown or, you know, appealing to the truth because it's still our main industry in that industry. How did you feel about, I mean, I think it's if you live in a city, it kind of might have that same sort of atmosphere. There's people coming and going and especially tourists in particular. They're not really staying being someone that lives there. And you said kind of domesticated is Do you feel like this is where you want it to be? This type of atmosphere you want to live in or did you want to travel yourself, or how are you feeling about I mean, or just you felt like you just had a work? Well, that lifestyle open your eyes and most individuals we live on an island. After working in the tourist industry and a traveling. You meet people from all over the world from Germany, from Switzerland, from Sweden. You right back and forth invite you on trips. I started traveling when I was 16 and my sports trip with the Washington D. C Teoh. You know you work, you save your tips. Flights were cheap in those days, and I think my flight my voice trembled, went to D. C two, meet some friends I've met here in the hotel for a week. E concede that too, right? And if you not. Not that you were from a small town, but myself being relatively from a small town. When you start meeting...

...people from different places, then you kind of get that itch. You know, the desire to get out and go visit some other people visit some other places. So when did you start taking music? Seriously? When did you start getting into it and playing and think, thinking that this might be a path for you as well? Well, um, yeah. I left this island at 16.5, going on 17. I move between New New Jersey and New York. I met some friends here that invited me. I was making a lot of money as a waiter in those days. Way saved on money. And, like a lot of the guys were doing a lot of us ended up having relationships with meet girls that from New York. You know, you re start dating or what? However, that works at some worked out. Something didn't work out. I'm in a lot of friends and I flew to New York and from New York. I am. I went over to New York, New Jersey the next week, and I found a place that was made for me. It's like I fit in. This is what I wanted to be in life. This is this is this is me and everything else. Just eso Why did you get on the plane initially to go to New York? Was it just for a girl or you You had a plan to do something? Some plans while I'm out of here now? Yeah. What? I'm gonna run into how it was worked out. That's a friend of yours. E got some friends in New York has hit New York person. She was happening. So when they hit New York, it was great 42nd Street in those days. But the most amazing ist thing I ever seen in my life it was a movie. The editors for as far as you can see on the ground, there was smoke coming out of the ground. It's like I never right there. I fell in love with the city. I was like, I ain't going back. How long did you stay in New York? I spent a week in New York, and then I Then I ran into another guy. That was a, um Well, a lady that was dating a friend of mine's, um, she only employment agency in New York. So I kind of, like, went over the New York. And I had, like, about 10 people I knew from New York that they would come to the Bahamas every summer. So they were being I need them for, like, a couple of years. So I contacted him. Come on. I went over there to New York. I am hooked up with Barbara Dino. She owns the employment agency. It was funny in those days. Um, I wanted to work. I want to go to school. So, um, I want my brother's office. She gave me some paperwork to go to a school called Jersey Prep, but you have to pay, you know. But I came with a couple of a couple of $1000 had worked young kids. I had a couple of grand. You had a couple. You had a couple of story. You had a couple of grand. Did you have a just a e with a few $1000? Did you have a suitcase with you two or a backpack? What? I'm trying to picture in my mind, I e socks. And, you know, that's all you had. Whatever you had A No, it's great. What? Um, everything worked out fine. I stayed a few days in the hotel on. I let her know that I'm looking to stay here. Um, of course that happened was there was a huge building across the street from the hotel. I was staying downtown, a block from City Hall. It was filled with lawyers and doctors and Maserati's and all exclusive people. And she called me, say, 10. There's a guy in the building. He's a college student. His roommate's going in the military. He needs a roommate. Some like, yeah, I want you to meet Carl. So I came down. I met Carl and he said, Yeah, he was really happy because I was from the Caribbean, you know? I went about it. The Caribbean, you know, for some reason or another thing. I think back in the days in the seventies, um, everybody, most of the people that you met that had problems with the local black people didn't really have too much problems with the Caribbean blacks because there was something in common they could talk about. I was in Jamaica, and you get that to talk about? I was in the Bahamas. Where where is? Yeah, I used...

...to work there on. And you have that in common. So Yeah, that's interesting. You say that it's interesting you say that because and I think that's just the human connection, right? You you make that connection rather than I mean in New York, wherever it is in the in the in the state. I'm from Canada myself. You accepted a little differently too. Yeah, You know, you accepting that it's a Caribbean, Alright. He's from the from that song. You know, it was like, Hey, this is calling for the Bronx. So, um, I got the place. I went down to the prep school. He told me that I'm You got to get up. Uh, social security card. The federal. The federal building was living his city hall federal building. I was right. Downtown man. I went downtown. Took the paperwork from threat from the prep school. Apply for a student visa. I got it. The next day, I had my security card and I was in school now. Tributes leader? No, But two months later, my teacher said there's a program of Exit County College for blacks and Hispanics giving you no examination, no test free entry into s it County College. So in a few weeks, I was in college. I was an Essex County College downtown. I got a job and then shop where I work here and then shops. I was nothing. Hookup suits, and in the most interesting thing happened one night This girl that was like my friend took me out to a club. It was owned by a Trinidadian, and that club became my future. It was a jazz club called the Playbills Lounge Man. It was when musicians traveling on the road you do New York. Philly. But in between New York and Philly was Jersey. You do New York Jersey, Philly D C. Baltimore, Virginia, Straight along the chitlin circuit and the plea build clubs. I came in there and again on Wednesdays. They were They were like what it was to hospitals right in the neighborhood. So all these nurses would come by and on Tuesdays and Thursdays and just drink. Just sit and have a bit. So anyway, you noticed the accent where you where you from? And I think the Bahamas and most of them with the Bahamas. So I started making Bahama mamas and Gumby smash and yellow birds and all of this man, and the next Tuesday I cook some peace, some behemoth peas and rice on artists, potato salad and all that. And when the boss came in and he saw the food, I brought it on the bus medical equipment at my apartment on We started Caribbean Tuesdays. Yes. And that Tuesday's started Bloom, you know, the next day he came in with food and nurses, brought more people, and we had Caribbean music and now that club was the jazz Club Miles played there. Mm, I got I know. I know. I know. George Benson. Before he starts singing, he used to work for me at the balloons. Stanley 17. Freddie Hubbard's Grover Washington Jr Man The Record Brothers Mandy and Michael and Mandy Humus Akila Roy Haynes Hip ensemble. That's why I started playing drums. This guy named Raw Hands A fusion jobs man. Uh, he, um So, Drama, you got to like me. You know, we should hang. And he showed me The fourth song I learned was Chameleon By by Herbie Hancock. Uh, I learned that that song and that was it. So I would like, started about tender with my skills became head bartender and assistant manager and manager and 20 years I end up being part owner of that club. So I can saying that whole area, everything there worked perfectly for me. Everything. I got the job that I needed, I was in school. I was doing this. I...

...was in the world that I dominated the the hotel industry, food and drinks. And my service was above the new things that, you know, you learn in the hotel industry so you could come into New York on the south side of New York and do a dinner and do a hotel style or present a drink that you see on vacation in Hawaii somewhere. So it was for me, man. Joe. Say it was You said you played was the animal skin drum when you were a kid. So was there are other people in your family. Yeah, we picked it up really quickly. Everybody in this hole plays drums or car belts. Okay, It's in the Junkanoo and the Junkanoo. So I was a little kid. I still got it, man. It was a little kid. You learn the oh, what I could do and we have our little junking was saying around the my brother played actually Junior Junkanoo. But I became a drama because I like rhythms And I started playing the bucket man bucket that mama would wash and I start playing the But I got some fun with me playing the bucket on my gold skin drum so that I guess that's why I chose drums or my brother learned trumpet, you know, in church. But I went to t the drones. So how did your career start to take path after New York in being even the the owner part owner of the bar and doing your work with all in the in the hotel industry. Where did that start to take? You, um, in that industry, Man, we changed my life was a guy named Junior Marvin Lead guitars of the Whalen's It's a good person toe Change your life. One night he came in. Hey was friends of similar to making guys that I knew with a week on his guitar, and he said that he did the Jimi Hendrix in Question Nation and he went on and he came up that day and I and tore down man on while he was playing. I had a house band. Really great bad. Sounded like like Chicago. They heard him and they they offered him a job. So he doesn't. He did one one gig as the Hendrix thing, and then you got hired by the group called The Psalms, and that kind of opened the door for him. People start hearing him, so he started going on the road with T Bone Walker and this guy and that guy and start moving up. You know, Steve wonder. And that connection let me to a lot of things. I am got serious with my drumming right there at the club because I play every night. Then I start taking lessons with, um, Puerto Rican guy named Mang Giteau. And I started jamming with salsa band called San Miguel 77 um, from Jersey and I started playing. And then since that happening, you know, I started playing and I became a devastating player, you know? E mastered my percussion and things that happened. I start working with Tony Mackay from from Bahamas. Then I I knew George Clinton from Parliament Funkadelic er and yeah, brother Kevin Kevin Goings. And they had a junior group called Quasar, which is the junior Parliament. So I started doing some stuff in Quasar and a girl named Pacino and I put my own band together. It was like too much things happening. And I started. I was jamming here, and I start working with what you saw on that. And then I landed flashlight towards Parliament Funkadelic. So they flash like on, You know, I got to know. I got to meet Sly and everybody in the industry at the same time junior Marvin was working. Moved from New York to to learning. I was working with Eric Clapton when Arab told him that I'm after two weeks. Well, you can't have two stars in the same band, but I got I got I got a cat I want you to meet. So he turned him on to Chris Blackwell and Chris Blackwell. Telling went to Bob Marley. So that's my connection tamale. Um, before that was after during that same period, this guy 20 McKay We want a...

...legendary bohemian artist. We hooked up in New York, Get some shows e got him. The job is an opening band for Peter Tosh on Bush Doctor Tour. So we did the U. S and Canada tour as an opening act. I also John would tour on which doctor, Because I know all the cats or Sly and Robbie in the Tamerlan's I. I was well into the industry and at the time, from club owner, toe musician. And but somehow, man, we end up living in New Orleans, New Orleans man wearing his type of music. He was like a Richie Havens kind of guy, you know, when more funk and field on, uh, man, we jammed in New Orleans. You couldn't leave. We stayed there for about five years. And at the time, the Neville Brothers Remember the Neville Brothers? Yeah. I dio Yes. Yeah, but Erin Ivan, they hooked up. We hooked up with the Netherlands and some of the Neville Brothers musician working with us. A lot of shows we do would be disloyal. And no one brothers, we had a show on a riverboat. It was Jimmy Cliff Read, um, Ali and never brothers between Mackay from Mohammed Man. Tonight you're saying that era, What can I lose? Nice. Go ahead. Sorry. I'm just thinking, because you're young at this time, right? You're 20 in your twenties, right? But I mean, still in your twenties. How difficult it is it for someone like yourself as a drummer who doesn't take the front stage or is not in the limelight. It's not, You know, whoever it is and you're in the back, are you just living kind of paycheck to paycheck? Are you getting some royalty deals? Are you getting some good deals all along this way or you're just, you know, as a young guy moving to New York. Doesn't matter. I'm just living it. I mean, that's how I live my life. So way was getting paid. I could play, man, and everybody wanted me to play with him. You know, I'd be doing three, sometimes 33 time. Come easy, man. This guy like there was a Latin guy who got his name in l. A. He did. He was saying this for the Latin so And I got known for the gripping stone and you get paid. Really? Well, you know, I go. And I remember playing with a punk rock band. They want a gripping field, and I came in there called the usual. I lay down from tracking studio. Next thing you know, I did four gives unload them and they pay you train a lot tonight. You know, I don't know what the other guys making, but I'm getting the trailer tonight not just gonna do my thing but a black. And then you're getting paid for rehearsal, getting paid, and other guys are seeing you and you're getting hooks. And sometimes your dailies I'm going from, like, four studios in today on. Then you get a night gig and then you got a rehearsal because you're going on tour with somebody, so it becomes a full time thing. You know what? And another brothers is like a syndicate off. Just great musicians and everybody houses doing their own thing, man. Everybody doing their own team. But everybody still together. There are Johnson, the bass player. When the baddest based in the world had his own thing. I've never who is the son of Erin. Never had his own thing. Um um um, Brian Stow's guitars had his own team. Um, Chin percussion player. We shared percussion. Um, Cyril Neville. He had his own thing. And of course, you know Era never has his own thing. So it was just a combination of so much things happening, you know? So even sometimes I was one thing, but I was doing a showcase in L. A. Carlos and Charlie's waiting on the sunset. Joan Rivers used to play well, we're getting Darrell was getting an Iowan. We're getting signed to Island Records. Look for bony. What's his name? He's a in our guidance, and I was playing so as I'm playing sure this guy cinema tunes bending down in it, looking at my look like me, man. Oh, all right, man, this guy's cool. What's up, man? I'm just playing, you know, playing and end of the show. He got on his knees and I'm like, Whoa, he said, I'm jump. Count. Note. Um, like you in the studio in the morning. And I had met him before on tour. Hey, was touring with, um...

...um Hi, man. Bob doing it was with Bob in New York. Figured that the picture right here cheap. He has a picture, man. Yes. Who's carried from the knock me So level. Yeah, there's there's Jim Keltner. There you go. Jim Kennan with six of his hands as me and Akaki Daryl Johnson Never Brother Cyril Johnson and Bruce Gary from The Knack. My Sharona Yeah, so anyhow, we will God came and hired me Whether the story in the morning it is m t m Mary Tyler Moore's studio. But I'm like So Wake Sando, I'm I'm doing an album for I'm doing some guys Simon something to R and D Guys, I'm doing that track. And next morning I'm doing this track. Next day I'm doing this and I'm doing I don't even know how much? We're getting paid. So guys like, man, the money getting 3 50. If it is, and I'm like, Yeah, he said, Well, that's Yeah. So they're all down. Yeah, Joe, you probably gonna get, like, 2. 75 300. Only an hour. I thought I said that's all. I think maybe I'm about 300 so I'm gonna find out now. I'm making $300 an hour if you go in the studio eight o'clock in the morning. Once you sign in, you're on the clock. If you play at nine o'clock at night, you on the clock. So I'm like, Whoa, then from that, uh, yeah, right, Cooter, You know, right? Gouda. I do not. You write? Cuda was a the slide guitarists that plays with, um, everybody he plays with. Remember the Traveling Wilburys Royals born Jim Count? No. In that era, perennial Rye hired me, man. Yeah, I got a job right out here that I got a job right after I hired me. I was hot. Um, I got a job. It, um um uh, Evers Costello. I did four tracks with George Harrison. I did some trucks with Bruce. I wanna Bruce Kerry. Uh, man, he's dead now. A drummer man. Bruce. Carrie, No, girl. Bruce is still alive. Um um Toto What? The drumming from Toto? Yeah, well, I e got a gig with him. It was just that. Then we end up doing TV shows. Um, if you remember Hill Street Blues Detective Bonds from Hill Street got fight, and they built the show around them called Beverly Hills once, and I end up doing the soundtrack with that. So I became between live I'm studio after I moved out to Hollywood to do a show and I'm living there. That's how that's how it should changes. So your life situations sometimes changes so much in terms of your life situation because you go here for for two weeks, and then the job said coming and the opportunity start coming on, you can't go back home, are speaking of home during this time or you're phoning home. You said you were hot where you're telling them what's going on. People in your family were you call them back regularly or it was just a whirlwind of adventure. No, At the time I was married to Diane, she was an airline stories on Eastern Airlines. So it was very easy for her to keep up with me. And on my day off to go and spend it with her because I I flew on passes. So we had a pretty much passing each other in the air. But most of the gigs and I'm playing. She offered three days, and she did work for an off street. She viewed me, so it became very young. Very good, because I I was not stupid. You know, in terms of my life situation, I made some great some good investments in terms of real estate and properties. So we didn't have toe worry that much about the income because we created income on, um, you started living like a lot of the guys in the industry where you have somebody coming in. You can afford to try a while. You're making money. Your wife can travel, so it becomes a lifestyle. Do you still have that property? Yeah.

Are you American citizen or permanent? Resident? No. Never. Never went down. That used to be. So when you're in Hollywood, how old are you at that point? Um um yes. I'm in my 30. So, like a deca a decade. Just flew by. Yeah, thirties 29. 30. So now that 10 years? Yeah, it was It was a great man. It was great. I was always around people doing things. Guys that wanted to invest. We owned in New York. We own Gypsy cabs. We should buy and fix of units. And seldom, Andi, I am still into the construction field. I'm still in tow, um, buying and selling units. But I did that in the U S. Flip flip here are buying. Keep. Yeah. Yeah, he was buying and selling, you know, But I fixed up self on. So I was into that, and I had a distinctive order. Imports. I had a little my onal Mercedes Benz used Mercedes color. I never said you would say pre owned Mercedes on. We buy him in New York and sell them in California on. So we had a lot of different things going on back and forth when you're off. You're doing this when you're working. You're doing that on. Life was full on, and it was exciting, you know? So what brought you back to where you are now? And when did you go back to Baja? To the Bahamas. Um, after years off, there were different things working with different people. No one band stood together except the Stones and a few other bands like that. And even so, they got their own thing. Ron would. Scott has his own thing. I know Ron real well. Ron Woods Stones. He named his daughter after my daughter. We hung out that close and, you see, lived in Brentwood. Like, if you also, um, o j and, um, kid riches. How The band called the expensive wine ohs. And on the bus, we have nobody, you know, on I will never was the keyboard player for for Keith. And so was, um, the whole band, including Keep, man. I got some tracks using the studio. And how you guys doing this song called, Um, hostility. Another one. Um, and I when Charley Drayton was playing on it, man. And next thing you know, I wouldn't playing the solo on the guitar. He plays keyboards, drums with me. He played all instruments, and they say No, it is keep e kit on this track, so yeah, man. Um, so you know, in the industry. When you up in about you know what, everybody? You around everybody your own clapped in your own. This guy, your own that guy. I became a part of the Bob Marley clans. Everybody knew me as being, you know, working off and on with Molly on that. Everybody knew everybody, man. And that's it for you with somebody that knows. Anybody want to introduce you? You in, you know, and then you work. Followed you in terms of what you do during this time, even though you were, you know, 30 and doing very well. Were you thinking that Because it hasn't ended for you. But were you thinking Wow, this is gonna end. All these bands break up, people die. Just life happens. Were you thinking at some point Well, I'm gonna have to stop the music industry. Stop being in here even though you haven't. But did you think this is gonna end soon? Even in yourself? Go to the end. Um, because I always did my own thing. I write, I produce and direct act. I have edit. I direct on my own videos. I read on my own videos. I choose the location from one small videos. I was I was happily happy Toby here and I saw when they were shooting Casino Royal. You're James Bond film E Man Daniel Craig. And I told him, Hey, man, I like to write the song He said, Right, Mike and I wrote this song called Casino Royale, which they like very much. I've got the video, it starts and we did a little bit of business. So, um, it's like that. I write, man, I can write the song with your eyes and within about an anti right grab or anything aan den. I visualize it and I see it so I could put on film So you never wanna...

...dio. I took film with and went up between New York and New Jersey. Um, Danny Dawson, one of my friends, was a professor at N Y. U and I took a film course, So I've got in a degree in filmmaking, also back in the days off splicing film. So I was I'm almost I'm always interested in doing things, taking the course, learning this, learning that, doing mawr, doing more. You know, my problem was as a percussionist to a lot of times my energy is high that I can't work for certain people because the audience started looking past the singer on the kind of percussion er So down, so down. That was a lot of things that that was one of the things that that he's a laugh. You used to laugh about a lot. They try to hide you in the back. Now you're gonna go in the back. No, get rid of Teddy. We don't need it. So when you move back, why did you move back? Why did you move back to Bahamas? E? I mean, you didn't It was not intentional, okay? It was an intense room. I, um, came an asshole. We at that time my wife, my daughter. And for some reason or another, um, they had to go back, like, a couple of days before because of a job. And I said, Okay, I'm coming, and I never I never came. E just stayed here. I don't know why. How How How old were you then? Is this still in your thirties or No. I came back here and mhm. I don't know what, um old I remember what it was in 1992 okay. And 92. And I was here for two between years. Then I got a gig and I moved to Greece. So I was living in Greece during recent London. Um, from 1992 1994 or 96. Just working. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. I have my own Greek band. I met a local band, regular guys, and hook it up. Put my tag on it. Josiah, I'm the traces on which I was a man. They got a really great guy from the Caribbean and the band. Now they're really authentic. And we started working man doing things and wow me. I'm a cross between George Clinton and Bob Marley. Yeah, I'm fused in between those two e Like your courageous close, you know, Funk. But I like the consciousness on sincerity. Off Molly s a right, but a lot of consciousness, but Maya tires pure p folk depends on what it is. I read I p funk I p funk. I fucking ties the Rigi man. Yeah, You didn't take your clothing lines from Bob Marley, that's for sure. I create and I make all my stuff. I designed all my clothes Yeah, give it that tailored to make. Did that come from your percussion or did that become from when you started to become more upfront and singing and performing? Yeah, I am. I am. I I used to sing background between Mackay on play percussion and after one of night in New Orleans Yeah, Tony had a heart attack and I was forced to sing. We had a contract in the clubs And what can you sing? And I'm like, Well, yeah, So we rehearse the next day and had the same. So I had to sink, man. And after that, I never stop saying it. I just started playing. I just kept stinging, kept on, you know, I put a band together, moved to Houston. It this and move here. I'd be following the music, man. So So after Greece, You did. You then go live permanently in the Bahamas. You have degrees. I moved to London from Greece to London, London. I came back to Bahamas. And so what are you doing now, Josiah? So, I mean, we're talking another 20 years in between. But what is What is it that you're doing now, Cove? It kind of puts a You and I mentioned this before We start...

...recording that things just stopped, especially if you're talking about a tourism industry town. But 20 years ago, I went to Havana, Cuba, and I used to go all over the world. And after I discovered a minor Cuba, I don't have to go out in the world no more. Every day I want is right in Havana, Cuba, that I've fallen on everything I was looking for all over the world, right in Havana, Cuba. You musicians, the dancers, this divide peace, quality of whatever you get. And I got my own recording on video studio with the Cuban partner which were top of the line. Now, man, on my work in conjunction with the, um, with the TV stations, you let my work. I hire a lot of guys off time and we're not working or there the big stuff to work with me. Andi, I get quality well this season, technicians and stuff to do to work with. And that's about having my own studio. I have the flexibility to do what I want to do all night, all day, over three days, with three nights. So and we advertising. Now we're getting clients from I got a mariachi band coming in from Mexico. Um, and about two weeks. So at six. At 12, when you were working as a bellboy and bar boy and you got that itch to travel, you scratch that itch? Definitely. Do you Are you done with it or you're happy. Now you're content with staying there and then going to Cuba for for work? You're okay with that now, Or do you still have a niche to go to this through some other places? Um, yeah, before still be, I was gonna go back to Greece and look up some old friends. We were talking about the reunion, but still, we kind of shut that down. But we're in the last few weeks. Just finished doing six videos. So I'm writing for for other people, um, working with other people, collaborating almost with everybody in Atlanta. No one commercial skills. I'm doing this. I'm starting a little Cuban restaurant over here. Um, Cuban sandwich and pizza. Commuter. You know, the black men and rise and all that stuff. So I'm a scholar off life in itself, just like then a woman is pregnant and it's about to have a baby. She starts preparing everything for that child. The room. Hmm, The crib, everything that he would need when he comes into this world to make his life comfortable. Where we feel as men our parents prepare for are coming in. But we don't prepare for are going out. And you're going out to start not just when you die, but for that here in life, when God says once a man twice a child where you might end up having campus again as you did as a child or somebody's feeding you again as you did as a child, we have toe ourselves, become our own parent and start preparing ourselves for that time. If not, you might end up in a nursing home or some other place because your kids become what you are father with families in a home that was built for their family, not you. So there's no extra bedroom there for you, you know, unless this was a mansion or something like that. So you're spaces in there, and that's when your kids has a big mansion with 20 you know, 10 bedrooms. Yeah. Still, you're not. You're not there, you know. So you've got to create for yourself a life that will allow you toe pay someone to come in in and be a nurse or two Come and clean daily or whatever, so that you can stay within your own environment on God. Gracefully. So you've been preparing. Well, you've been preparing. Well, it sounds like, um, life houses set back. How much are you prepared? There's something that's preparing to tear it down. Always. Yeah, always. You're pairing up somebody preparing now. Great. So you got toe? Yes. Speaking of speaking of that, Joseph, what's what was difficult? What has been difficult about being life in the music industry or entertainment industry, or just in what is difficult? What is the...

...challenge? One of the biggest challenges for you. The biggest challenges for me is E, I guess exposure, exposure if you we're able to be exposed to be marketed, um, given even time, I think with I'm not a egotistical kinda Oh, me, me, me, me, me, man. I got so much songs I don't even know my songs. I got I got some with music tracks when I heard him say o E I got because I'm constantly, constantly doing things. I got some videos when I run across the My God, he looked to see if that's me, you know, because I'm constantly doing things straight. Truth. So, um, how I were able to get the exposure or that that much, I think that I'm everybody but no Josiah. So you're saying the challenges you not need, but it's hard to get more exposure or trying to get exposure. Yeah, exposed while exposure comes with promotion, promotion comes with a company behind who's got the money. You become an investment. They put this into radio stations, and it is in the TV, and it's a formula. And if you don't get in the pipeline, you'll get become a part of formula. Then you don't get market properly. Now, with high with social with technology, it's open more doors because younger people have different our bodies and ways and form groups where one guy has 20,000 followers and his friend got another 30 and then if they hook up together the five. But I'm gonna give you a million followers, you know what I mean? So all these kind of things is, uh, it's a new era in terms, off music and in the industry. Now do you think me? It's sweet. I love it. It's challenging and new things every day. Well, before there was one guy in charge off your future, you're saying your cdn. He listened to it for five seconds. If you don't like it next, but now the chances are you could put on YouTube. You can put on this thing for the MTV you put in this and the guy who didn't like the first time and said, Oh, whoa, man, I listen to that man a few weeks ago because now somebody else, this guy and they're playing it. He realized he had in his hands. So the world has opened up more now in terms of opportunities. True, like what we're doing right now. It's hard to, though, because now so many people get exposure. So the whole the idea of exposure has been a diluted a bit because it s like the idea of if someone had, say, a million followers 30 40 years ago, like there's a there's a have a solid base of a million people. Now there's a million people with a million followers. So it is being Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can get that like that, you know, do anything. And they hooked up in blue way. I was like that. They're professionals who do that. So, um, I just keep on doing stuff, man writing, creating that. Just stuff. Junior Marvin from the Whalers. Um, after I sent it to you, I did a track for him. He promised Bob Marty years ago that he would continue the band and you continue fighting. And I did. The song recorded, and I just finished the video. I sent it to him today, and I'm waiting for his, um, nod and say, Yeah, it's cool on. Then I'm I'll send you a copy. Okay? It's a great track. Great video that hopefully something can happen for for him, one for myself, in terms of this over this work. So what? From my point of view, if you better to just give it to them and let them work it because there ain't no avenues here. Yeah, in terms off working or doing anything. You know, this is like the creative spot, and then you got your man of avenues. Yeah. Promotion, promotion What? In all the years of four decades of being in the music industry, What is the satisfaction you get by doing the work that you dio? Um, my status function is when I get eight. Pleased. The usual satisfied audience. People really showing the sincerity. I've seen people crying man,...

...in Santiago, Cuba. You have to bring ominous people are feeling, I said I took over $10,000 ring off his finger and gave it to me. I'm crying. There's off. What you're doing is things that you can't even imagine that the response from people sometime that you get based on. But they feel from what you what you're doing. What you what you're sending what they're feeling sometimes It's incredible, man. It's probably a little bit like comedy as well. People who stand up on stage and perform comedy, and it allows people to get outside of their life for a little bit and enjoy something on a different level. And they can appreciate some of the finer things of life while taking the time to be with you and listen to your music. And then they could just forget about that bothersome world out there just allows me to get outside myself. You know, um, well, I've created I got the regular look regular regular ready, and then they got the the mad Max. Look, man in the helmet. You know what that I do That I make it with regular on as well as ready. That's the P phone came when I when I'm when I when I went in that like, I'm gonna wall man, I put on the helmet. And when When that puts you in that frame of mind, you know, when you get on the general cap, you in the regular, you to field marshal, you know, and your attire place a pot in terms off what you're feeling, your dressing, the part of how you feel and you're ready for the about it. Josiah, what is this skill that you've over the four decades that you've been in? The music industry is something that you've been trying to attain work on to perfect a skill that is something that is most essential in your industry. You know, um, I'm trying to tame not well, it's maybe something you've perfected already, but it's something that if someone else was getting into the industry, they really need to work on this skill. Uh, it's all writing, man. Some writing is expressing. He's telling that story that you see that you feel that your dream that you see through the eyes of other people that you experience that you see other people experience and you can tell it anywhere where people can cry. Women can put it on when they start feeling low when they get lonely. They put on the body wide or this song because it creates a mood. You know, when they want to get right up, get up, stand up, stand up a certain song. Come on. Based on the mood off what they wanted energy to be like they put on that song as a rallying song. You know, the motivate people ought to get him up. So, um, I think that that is, to me important. One of the most important things is when you can write, express what you feel and write about anything at all. How old were you when you wrote your first song? Uh hm. Okay, um, my voice on was what? Mhm. Um, I don't remember my first song. You would have been in your teenage years, though. Yeah, it was around when I first started playing drums. Yeah, I started scribbling. You know, Josiah, thinking of people like yourself first starting work, maybe around the age of 12, whether it's a bus boy, bar boy or what you said is preparing for your life of doing different jobs. Do you have any advice for people who just start work, no matter what work they're getting into, or maybe into music or they change their career? Do you have any advice for people who are just starting work getting into the work industry, the field of work For most people off, a lot of people, the body comes with a gift. And if we realize that give, we don't have to work at it because become mastering it like a guy who can run. You're gonna teach them phone. You can't teach him speed.

He's got the speed, you know, so you can teach them how to perfect it so he can flow. But he could have run from he came on the court. I mean, on the track. So once you find something that you like to do. You do it. Well, you enjoy doing it. You won't feel that their work. I go in the studio in the morning, and then if I leave the next morning, I don't feel like because I've been working at it, man. What time is it? What? Let's get out of you. Uh, I suppose toe man is true. God, you know, this time to go So is like that. You got to choose something that you like to do that you do well and that you can make money off because a lot of things you like to do, we can't make the money of it. So it has to vote. What together? And then you'll find your work being very easy. Become fun, you know, becomes a challenge. What I can do today. When I got to regulate Andi, everything becomes something to write about. Do you? Do you find it's difficult to turn off your work to turn off and thio take a break and relax. Or do you have a good Do you? Are you able to do what people say Is work life balance or work life choices? Or are you constantly just working. Yeah, I'm constantly just working because it's what you love to dio. I don't go. It's time to do work. But sometimes when I go inside, work comes. You know, he just comes, man, like you be doing this and all of a sudden, Wow, that I am makes you know, it's it's work. So I guess you always attracted to things that you like. You know, Josiah. In the music industry, entertainment industry, there's there's lots of challenges. There's lots of temptations, but do you see there's a top character trait that's required to be successful in this industry? Um, depends. Um, we got the one hitters I never got the those who become legends. Hmm. So repeat success it was keep you in the one hit miss take or somebody put money into something to make it popular. Um, quite different consistency, I guess. Yeah. Being consistent. Hard working. Yeah. Consistency. Josiah, do you have a goal and over a big, overarching goal for your music or what you're doing in the industry? Um, yeah. I like to feel the success, I guess. You know, you know, the guys that are compulsive lottery ticket bias, their main goal is the one day man hit the lottery. So when are mine? I think all musicians is a is a closet lottery ticket bio. You know, one day we were hoping for that song Dio blob or this will happen on something like that And we we win and we hit my recognition. Yeah, we can follow the path. So now, before the path that takes us to slow success are you guys doing And before his own success? So it has this ways based on your connections or your your God giving, um, chance of life or what it's supposed to be, you know, a premonition of what you're supposed to do. What happens? Destiny is everyday heroes. Your Is that a new song? Everyday heroes that you have? Yeah, I was reading about now everyday heroes that's happening in this. See what we think And the school teachers has been there for years. Has not seen on the TV every day as a hero in this, there's a there's a bus accident. Yeah, most of the heroes, we don't see them, and that's there's a negative problem. We don't know what see them for the positive situation on the job that...

...they're doing e hope that gets traction because it's a pretty good upbeat, and it's very fitting. It's a very fitting song for nowadays. Did you see the video? Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Is there anything Josiah that people do not understand about you that you would like them to understand? So they could have a better appreciation of the work you're accomplishing and what you've done for 40 years? Is there something that you like people to understand about you? Um, basically, when you are Mr to me, and then look at me, especially my performers, you don't understand me cause the two of them kind of, like, works together. You know, you look at me and said, Okay, yeah, you hear me, and then you'll see the connection of what I'm trying to do or what I'm doing. So what is very satisfying And, um, well received both places ago on and it's been a It's a blast. Man, I still enjoying this. You're saying I only have a couple questions left for you? Have you faced any adversity, or is there some adversity that you have faced that it's either helping you drive uh, it's a help motivating. It's a helpful motivating drive in your life, something that that was difficult to get through. But you're working through it and it's helping you in your work, I think, um, working in Cuba 40 because for years it's been a great experience for me because I mean able to provide a lot of work for a lot of people. And I've been able to exchange with a lot of people what could catch that's so talented and broad guys along got them in the stuff I had impersonate these guys who wanted to be like me, and I didn't run them. I accepted them, you know, And, um um, just being I think that country has really growing me up because I'm able to be around such great great, great, great great talent of anything on affordable where not cheap but affordable where for what I do things I can do on. Then everybody's in the art. When you get a dance group, they got costumes. Mm, they could do rumba, samba, mambo, this dying, dying that any type of style you want, you know? And then every place is catered to music, so you could go here is a bad stand. You can go ahead and said you go ahead Is that and people work with you for a few blocks? Of course. And you're never gonna get a new where on this side of the world, everything is a new you're fighting for. Yes. You gotta know when you're walking up, see what? No, I e Whenever there's brothers. No, but I take no. And I turned it around and oh, is all. And for me, when you say no, I say, yeah, it's on. Yeah. Josie, is there anything that we haven't touched upon or talked about that you would like to add? Now, that's great. Man, This has been a great conversation. Um, you are great questions. Um, I have have one more than Do you have any encouragement? You've met some people from all over the world and people from all over the world. It doesn't matter what they're doing. They face adversity. Do you have any in in terms of work for people who are struggling with worked on not having work, not sure of their own talents or skills or what they would like to be doing or they're like that guy like, Oh, it's three o'clock. I gotta get out of here. And they're just really hating what they're doing. Do you have any words of encouragement for people in their work who are facing adversity? Um mm. The hardest thing you do is to do something that you don't want to do. Are you being forced to do? And where is he? Comes...

...more than appealed. People can criticize you want Today they're gonna talk good about you haters. Gonna hate you. Wonder like is gonna like you. But it's easy to do those things. I supposed to do the good thing. So that's part of the challenge. Right there is changing the minds of those who used to or remember what? I didn't like the guard. You know where he's okay. Now, you know, to change in the minds off those that didn't to those that do mhm in. I write everything, play every style I ain't afraid of. No, no collaborating or fixing it or mixing it. I can do reggae with salsa. E did the voice reggae, cabaret, big cabaret band is used to doing the cabaret and I just regular fight it, man. And they're like, Whoa, 40 dances in a Latin cavalry, dancing to reggae Rectified it regular, regular regular Find it. I like that. Yeah. Once everybody keep thinking positive stay positive. Don't let the things that you hear and see each day influence you because the things you see each day they change every day. Mhm. So your mind will be changing Like the things you see and hear every day If you follow the things to see and hear every day. Josiah also, you have a good sidekick. Besides, you too. Yeah, She's your manager, I think. Oh, yeah? How can people how can people reach you? I'm getting contact with you. I'm on YouTube. Uh, Teddy JoJo. Desire just cannot. I'm on all the Spotify eyes and all that. And for now, that's basically it. But we're looking in terms off growth. We're collaborating with some other things and people in their future. So, Andi, people in that yourself thanks so much. 11. This opportunity. I don't know how much or what the exposure is. What? It may be someone on this who sees it. Wow. And next thing you know, I'm going tactic to do something Because of this opportunity, each opportunity creates an opportunity. I have one more question for you, Josiah. And that is why do you work at work? Because if there was no work, there'd be nothing. Work is building a house, working, fixing your car. When one stops, the world stops, man. So Baba said, you gotta work. You gotta work, man. Um, but sweat of their brow. So now we great on with work comes fruit. Things happen. If you don't work, what you're gonna you're going back or you are fortunate enough to, um have inherited something. But with the average person, work is the way of life. Work is what we're supposed to do. There's so much working on Earth for us to do. There's work that we need to do this work that's not for money. Let's work that we do, because we care. It's work that we do because we're forced to. So there's all different types of work, but the work that you give freely because you can't to do it are the most meaningful work that and started trying. But I think you will get your best results in feelings from what you're doing? I agreed with SIA. Josefina Teddy Kinloch. I have appreciated the time that you have given me And I certainly appreciate the work that you dio Brian. Thanks very much. I appreciate it. Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, Follow and share with others so they too can be encouraged in their work. E hope that you have yourself a productive, joyful day in your work.

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