WhyWeWork BrianVee
WhyWeWork BrianVee

Episode 27 · 1 year ago

#26 Coach Michael Taylor Entrepreneur, Author, Motivational Speaker BrianVee Whywework

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Coach Michael Taylor is an entrepreneur, author (8 books), motivational speaker and radio and TV show host who has dedicated his life to empowering men and women to reach their full potential by transforming their lives from the inside out. He knows first hand how to overcome adversity and build a rewarding and fulfilling life and he is sharing his knowledge and wisdom with others to support them in creating the life of their dreams. He is President & CEO of Creation Publishing Group that is a company that specializes in creating programs and products that empower men to embrace a new paradigm of masculinity that supports them in being great husbands and fathers and supports them in creating meaningful and rewarding lives. He was featured in the Amazon.com bestselling book Motivational Speakers America with legendary speakers Les Brown and Brian Tracy and he has won numerous awards for his dynamic speaking style. Public speaking is his passion and being on stage brings him tons of joy. He is the host and producer of two TV Channels on the Roku Network, Joy Passion & Profit, which is a show designed to empower entrepreneurs to build companies that change the world, and, Shatter The Stereotypes, which empowers men of color to live extraordinary lives. In addition, he hosts two podcasts of the same names and they can be found on most podcast platforms like Spotify and iTunes. Most importantly he has been blissfully married for 17 years to the woman of his dreams and he is a proud father to three grown children whom he is extremely proud of. When he isn’t writing or speaking you’ll find him checking out the latest movies or listening to old school 70’s and 80’s soul music and contemporary jazz. He considers himself to be an irrepressible optimist with a passion for the impossible and he believes there has never been a better time to be alive on this planet than right now.

Welcome to why we work with your hostan Brian Vie as he speaks to people like you from all over the world, as wetogether dive deeper into our motivations struggles, joys, seeminglymisstepsholds warnings and advice, whichwill be an encouragement to us allto get u get going and keep on workingworking timis good. Now here'syour host to why we were Inrinbingbrihe Vem whene workd. Today I had the greatpleasure of Speeingit Cok Michael Taylorwhen, you think of coach. Youthink of someone who is leading, and Mr Michael Taylor is leading. He is an author of eight books workingon several more. He is a motivational speaker. He not only motivates people,but he gets down to the heart of issues and showing people forgiveness loveingratitude. I very much enjoyed this conversationtoday. It may you clean something from it as we listen to my conversation with coach, Michael Taylor, 'Mbrinvy, andthis is why we work- and I have the great pleasure of speaking with coachMichael Taylor good day, fine, Sir Hello Brn, how you doing my friend I'mdoing well, I just said you must have some things going on. If you, if youhave coach in front of your name, because anyone who has ever played asport, it even has some admiration for maybe their kidscoach or something for you to have coach y. You must have some real thingsgoing on. Well, hers. Here's a thing behind thatworkcoach! There's a wonderful book out called the passion test and theintention of the book is to help you identify that which you are trulypassionate about and after I did that that test. What I came to find was Iloved teaching I absolutely loved teaching how to do things and o I'm anauthor written et book, so that's a form of teaching. So when I started mycompany, I needed a tagline. It is a brand and teacher Michael Taylordoesn't sound nearly as cool as coach, Michael Ta, so so I'm in at lifecoaching space and that's why I use the term coach Michael Talor. I love it. II really love it and knowing a little bit about you from your bioand again, Isay it you and I we met through Linkin. I think it's a great resource, butgoing through some of the things that you are doing and have done. I thinkyou you hold the name rather well so cor great bran, and you know it'sinteresting. What I find really interesting is most of my life. All ofmy friends, for whatever reason, gentlly call me my first and last name:Micaeltatle Taber, I co Harei, don't know why that's stuck, but most peoplehave always called me, Michael Taygler, and so when I came up with the brandcoach, Michael Taler, just kind of fit, you know still its his ter kindo fitcoach. Michael Pala in adds like it seems. Bicataylor is one syllable, butyou got another syllable on there. T there's a few, but it seems like one.No, it works it works really. Well cannot coach. Can You bring us back? Iknow we. You just mention you're an author of eight books. You have podcastgoing your motivational speaker, you you, as you opened up with me a fewmoments ago, you're trying to get through the noise and and resting onthe sure settlement of what's to come. After all this noise, but before yougot here, how did it all start? When did youbegin working? When did you get your first job? How old were you? What wasyour motivation then? Well couple of things. First of all, I've known that Iwanted to be an Onje Cernor, since I was ten years old when I was twoeight years old. This isa conversation I actually had with my GRANDPA I'll. Never Forget. I walked uptil, it was a GRANDPA when I grow up, I'm going to be rich and he asked me.How are you Gong to do that? I said I'm going a Oll own company, he said wow,that's a great goal to have. He says now. If you're going to be riche, I'mgoing to tell you two things: You'd have to learn to be rich, it saysnumber one. If you're going to be rich, you have to learn Ta D. think like RichPeo to he said the only difference...

...between rich people and deplor peopleis how they think. And secondly, he said: If you're goingto be rich, you have to learn to listen. He said because rich people will tellyou how they got rich, it's no responsibility to learn from them sothat you can become rich and it is those two lesso that have really stuckwith me, my or life. Now, when I was fourteen years old, I was walking to school and I hapn't tooverhear this conversation between this owner of this company and his Mekhint,and they were screaming and cursing and fighting because the mechanic didn'twant to clean the floors. He said my job is te fix. He is a motorcycle shohe's at my Dougtis to fix the Dan Motorsike, I'm not here to Cuena. WellI heard that, as I was walking by so I walke into the store I talked to the Ole tsaid, hey man. Iheard the conversation I said, guess what I can clean your for for you and fourtynine years old, fourteen and fourteen years old, sir, I can clean your for H.I said I said: If you hire me, I canclu your Soug, he says: Well, howmuch will you charge? I said I have no idea but hereis to think I said. Let meclean your garage and then you pay me what you think is worth at four forteenyears old, so I had to go to school. I told Hem. Icome back afterer school to cleanest, garage wile. I come back and by thetime I finished cleaning I couldride you could have had dinner on that Foo.It was so clean. So I got Ta looked at me and he kind of smiled itwas reallyimpressed. He said I tel you wat I'll pay. You five bucks an hour. Nowguess what this as nineteen? Seventy four minimum wage was a dollar sixty anhour. This guy is pay me five bucks an hour,I'm fourteen years old. Now I only worked a couple of hours right, but hehad three friends that also owned garages. So guess what I now ended uphaving three other clients at fourteen, so that was my first jumpintohogepenouship. Now a couple of other things that I love e won, I love music.So when I got to high school I started M Y own company being a D J. I boughtmyl equipment I', go around doing parties and dances and PROMS and Suffwain high school. I was making a ton of money. I also love instalid car Tereo. Thatwas a passion, a I had a four hundred dollar car, but a twelve hundred dollarstereo, and so I would install car stereos formy friends and they well tell Erfrey and I had a stady stream of customerscoming in. So I've always had this passion for Entreprenutia and that'show it all begin. I think I'm still stuck in that youwere fourteen nineteen. Seventy something you look like you're aboutthirty five I'll be sickly this year. Well, you'redoing well for yourself so you're talking about the motivation you had oreven the desire you had to be rich, but where did that come from like? Is theresomeone that you knew something that you experienced? What was this? Thisdrive coming for SFROM, ten years old right? Well, here's a thing! First ofall, I believe every human being has a divine purse, there's something that weshow up with thit's inor DNA and, If we're blessed enough to figure out whatthat is, life becomes magical. So I was born in Intercity Crojic e couple sQity Texas, to a single mom with six kid, and we were basically the post ofchildren of povery back in the sixties and you'll, hear people sometimes saythat when they were young, they didn't realize they were poor. I realized we were port and I didn'tlike I didn't like it at all, and I remember having conversations with mymom, I said mom whatever it takes, I'm going to get out in this situation. I'mgoing to buy your house, you know all those things we seit. We hear peoplesay I said I'm going to get out of this Sintueton. I am not going to be poorand my mod used to tell me she said, Michael. If you want something badly enough, there is no one or nothing that cankeep you from having it except yourself. So if you want to get out of thissituation, you'r first t the first thing you got ao do. Is You got to useyour mind? She says you're smart. She says you got to have a positive,mentral attitude and she said if you want a Baina, you can do it so thatfoundation, I believe, is what started this old Othbard murial purposecomfelment for me, because I believe once again that there is a divineenergy in the universe. You can call it whatever you want to call. You can call.I God Youcan Call You you can call it whatever you want, but there issomething that Weis human beings have...

...access to that when we tap into itnothing is impossiblve and fortunately, for me I was blessed to be able to tapinto that, and it is what has allowed me to accomplish things thati'veaccomplased. So far, did you ever buy a house Freye mom, notyet still workng on bithing. Is You brought me way backbecause I grew up in not with six or five brothers and sisters, but when we were younger, I was in thepoorest part of my hometown and I always said to my m mom. I want Ta, youknow be successful enough to buy you a home,probably said a couple of other things, but I always said by her home my mompassed away this February and th. Now I find that you know alittle bit like I fell short there alittle bit, but it resignates with me that you had the experience growing up andyou're tapping into something that you believe is bigger thanyourself well, but here here's a beautiful partabout that, though you know, when we make those intentions, you know and K ow. Wealways love our moths. We want to do great things for our moth but see my mom like most MOMS scary,speciallynd unique and she is the reason I am hwy again. My mom single parents, six kids,poverty, the whole nine y yards, but you know I I really thought about this,and I can't remember a single time when I heard my momcomplaint about a despite our situation. She had this sense of optimism andpossibility. That is, I guess it. If there's resiliency gene,she passed it on to me and I'm so grateful for that. And so,even though I haven't been able to buy her the house yet mhm, I have donesomething that, from her own words, basically fulfills te fulfilment thatshe would have received if she bought the house. For example, when I was inthe eleventh grade, I dropped out of high school. I dropped out of highschoop because I convinced myself that I could get rich selling back you cratE. I optimistic then too. I go to the seminar right in Tisin KnoI' in his onehese motivation of seminars and these multil evelwarkening sell the vacuum. CLEA o make all this money. I just knew. I could doit right well, bad ors, but what I learned from that, even though Inever saw the single vacuum cleaneri learned that I was willing to take risk and as much for obviously that's a hugepart of that taking risk. But I knew intortbly somehow I wasgoing to make it so when I dropped out of high schoolcouldn't find a job for about a year, but I still maintaine his positive Atud.Fortunately from me I landed. Excuse me, I leaded a job with abuilding supplysom at ninety Climbe, the corporate ladder pretty quickly. Asa matter of fact, I became the youngest manager in the history of thisparticular company and one of only two black men, as ever in a eighty sevenyear, history of the coming, and so when I became manager and Ibought my first house, I remember inviting my mom ans in mom. I made it and e look on her face and the feelingthat she gave me when she embraced me and said Babe, I'm so proud of him, knowing where I'd come from and at thebeginning, when I first started working for that company, she didn't believethat I would be able to make managers, because in when I was black number two,because I only had eleven grad education, she said noody's going topay you that kind of money without Onte Greek. I said my Truste, I know whatI'm doing. I knew that I could do it so I climb Ta Corporaf ladder and again Ibecame manae at twenty two, but just seeing her face the pride when sheqwalked into my house for the very first time it it's wasn't buying her a house, butI guarantee the feeling was the same, her being so proud of me. So as you congratulations too. We just bought our house like threeweeks ago and I would have loved to have shown my mom it's one of thosethings right, yeah, absolutely a just so proud of that that she was ev s andand not to mention the fact that whenever I write a book you know she'smy mom's just all over the place with...

...he friends, you know bragging and soforth, and and here's a really amazing story. My Mom is part of thisorganization called the eastern stars. I don't know if you're familiar with itas it's a female, a fraternity, type thing where women get together and theythey do conferences and stuff like that. Well, she, apart of this well, she wentto one of these conferences in Thereou K, ow, probably fifteen hundred peoplein this conference and there's a lady there that she's, agood friend of THY'Rthey're they'R, be friends for years and so for somereason or somehow thes started having this conversation, she's a college,professor and so they're. Having this conversation and the college professortells my mom about this amazing book that she's reaning for black men, and so my mom asked her- was the timeof the book and she said Shattering Blackmil stereotypes and my mom went myson wrote that and the Lady's like no way she saidYeah. She said that's my son and I remember when she got back and shecalled me she's laughing nd she's like I can'tbelieve that actually what a wonderful thing- ey, that's verycool. So how did you go from manager into? You know more of your role now so,after after dropping out of high school getting promoted and then you'restarting to find Yo, not you're, not starting, but you're you're gettinginto your groove of starting to write. Did you write Bev, ther, eleven, her H,here's, here's the amazing story. So at the age of twenty three I'm living theAmerican dream right, I got the house, the wife, the two point: Five kids andall of that by the age of twenty nine, my American Dream Triede to theAmerican nightmare. I went to divorce a bankruptcy, a foreclosure, a deepstated depression. I was actually homeless for two years living out of acar, and so, during the darkest period of mylife, I received a miracle. I was sitting up late one night because I wastoo depressed tosleep and I remember sitting at the edge of my bed lookingacross the room on my bookshelf, when I happened to notice that every book onmy bookshelf had something to do with getting rich or making money. Nowremember what I said about me wanted to be an enthrenau. When I was ten yearsold. All my books on my bookshelf was whatmy grandfather taught me about listening. He taught me to listen andthat's how I listened by reading these books, so I'm looking at these books noticing that every book Ha Oup heredoing geting Richand, Makin money and all of a sudden. This question just popped in my head, Michael. What? If you took all the energy andeffort you've used in trying to get rich and simply figure out how to behappy mm, that simple single question literallychanged and saved my life in an instant. When I asked myself that questionsomething in me shifted, I couldn't explain it in words, but all of asudden, my depression lifted- and I had this amazing clarity that I was goingto be able to rebuild my life and it was going to become extraordinaryantortively. I just knew it. It was. It was a transcendent experience that hadnothing to do with the intellect. It was completely spiritual, somethingjust shift shifted, and so I stopped reading books ongetting rich and making mine, and I started reading books on philosophy andpsychology and spirituality and metaphysics and personal depelirnment,and I want US amazing journey of transformation, and so after a few years because ittook a few years nd, I started t rebuilding my life and I got reallyinvolved with the Anthony Robin's motivational movement. If you will, youknow walking on the hot cold and doing nural linguistic programming, n LP, andso I started putting my life back together and so things were gone well. But therewas something missing that I couldn't put my finger on. It's interesting because gn I hadalways been motivated. So motumation wasn't a problem. Yo K- and so here Iam- were athe robins, who was primarily motivating, but there was somethingdeeper that I couldn't figure out and then I read a book by a guy namedJohn Branchal and in this book he talked about. Hewas talking witbot emotional healing, and he said the key to emotionalhealing was creating an interpersonal bridge with another human being, and he said the...

...fastest way to create that bridge wasthrough some sort of therapy in which you are able to connect with anotherhuman being to Allo you to emotionally heal mm. And when I readthat I realized t it something, there was something there for me that Ineeded to look at, and so I gave a courage to go to therapy and duringtherapy. I learn that I had an extremely abusive childhood asa matter of fact, if you take the worst childhood you could imagine andMultiplyd by ten. That was my childhood. I mentioned that I was one of th inercity projects with Si ski with my mom, but when I was six years old, my momhad to take me to live with my dad for a while, because one of my oldestsisters got really sick, and so I want to live with my bad, who I reallydidn't remember because he had left when I was really young yeah and wemoved in with his mother. Who was actually my grandmother and she wasliterally the grandmother from Hall and she literally hated me. She did shejust hated me number one anytime. She would say anything bad about my mom. Iwould defend my mom and she would get disgoing to these violent rages right. So anyway, when I withistherapist and I'm talkingabout some of the TRAUMAS that I want to as a child, she asked me. You knowshe says well Mike Youow. How are you doing well? I had created this defitsmechanism and that the fist mechanism- Wa everything's great- I hear behindthis mask of Mister neiscat everything's great. But beneath that Iwas really in a lot of pain and this therapist helped me movethrough and heal a lot of that paint and in doing that and doing thatinnerwork that healing work. I figured out what was missing, because when Iwas doing all that emotional, I mean a motivational stuff. I really hadn'ttapped into my heart yeah and my feelings, and so what I was able to dothrough theropy was to connect the dots tha that was and needs to heal somestuff to be happy because, as I mentioned in tha question about stoppedreading boos about getting rich and Jisne go how to be happy. That was thegoal and as a result of going through therapy and some other processes, I wasable to accomplish their goal, which is to simply be happy, and so in doing that work and gettinghappy and being joyful. I said you know I've got to share the lessons that I'velearned with others and that's when I begin. I started writing in my latethirties. I started writing books. You didn't start writing until you'rethirty YEP and I didn't even know that I was a writer. I never knew. I was a rite and here'san interesting thing. The primar reason I started writingbooks was because I had joined toastmasters as a public speaker, and Itell in love with public speaking and I was trying to figure out how to getspeaking gigs well. One Way to get speaking gave this to be an outor, so Iwrote a book. Toit gets quicking GIMES, that's pretty amazing. I I'm justthinking of you know I our pass are similar, Ithink Um, it's kind of heartwrenching to go to say, Um, a parents home where you're not wanted,and you have someone also who who hate you and as a six as a six year old childhaving nowhere else to go and being hated at the same time and not knowing the world that's outthere and how to get out of that situation. It's you know debilitating. It's incapsating, it's you know it's like ajail right. You don't know how to escape and there's no wonder that you wouldn't. Ithink the word would be love right. You probably had the love from your mother and then going to the place that youknow you couldn't make that connection. You wanted to be happy. You had some unresolved issues based on the lack oflove that no one there gave you and they gave youeverything else, but and to for t to be a relationship from Hell. I can only imagine so I appreciate you coming out of that,and you know those are things that you know it's like losing someone ormemories from the past. You'll still remember those things, butit depends on where you're your guideare toward. So I really appreciateyou being able to come up out of that. What was what was your Um?...

You go ahead. Well here, here's a thingagain and for the listeners who are watching this because we've allexperienced trauma and adversity in our lases, its it's just part of life andagain I have um been through some of the darkestdarkest peerde that anyone can go through. But I come back to my beliefand I believe its purpose, no as difficult and a's painful as 'cause, Iwas there for seven years from six to thirteen was when I went through what I calledmy seven years of hail and that's what et was and again as painful and asdifficult as it was. What I can now see in retrospect as aresult of all the deep work that I've done and healing and growing. What Ican see is the perfection even in that adversity there's a wonderful book out by guynamed Tim Kelly, Jim Kelly, called true purpose and in the book he talks aboutwhat he calls the sacred wound, and what he says is that each of us, ashuman beings will experience something that in some way shapes our destiny. In a way he saysyou know it doesn't have to be a traumatic physical experiencees. As forsome people that sacred wool could be your father telling you that they'redisappointed in you m. But what happens is something happens, and then we makea decision that there's something wrong with us that maybe we're not lovable, and he said that won that secret wound.If we can figure out what that one is and heal that wound, it will release us from all the painand all the disconnection we felt, but it will open us up to understanding thedivine purpose in that wound, because in that wound, as a result ofthat wonbd, I became extremely independent. I became my my the fith mechanism was my way of cupingwas by being smart from first grade to seventh grade. When I was there in atseven years, appail I was a complete straight Ay, stuent, absolutely brilliant, because my momsaid the way to get back to her was by doing good in school, so that sacred Woun of me beingseparated from my mom, which psychologists will tell you. That'swhere abandonment issues start well. For me, that's where the abandonmentissue started for me, because in that moment that my mom left me, I made a decision that people who loveyou leave you, and it was that decision for a longtime feeling that was driving all my relationships, and it was the reasonwhy I couldn't fully connect with others inh relationships. It was thereason why I went through a divorce. Excuse me, because, deep down inside, I believed that people who loved youwould leave you, and so what I would do is I would do everything in my power to keep people in relationship with meand the term we would use is. I was very codependent. I didn't know how to put my emotionalneeds first, because I was always trying to take care of others needs tokeep them in relationship with me and so by healing that sacred wound by getting in touch with the negative emotions that were trappedinside of me through therapy, which I talked about earlier. It freed me fromthat pain. It freed me from that shame it awakened in me that divine part ofme that and I'm going to get a little wool herefor on you, but that part of me that knew that all of that pain wastherefore purpose that those seven years of Hail was partof the Divine Plain. And so when I came to thatunderstanding and as I came to understand, what I recognize now is that this divine energy, Tis divineintelligence that I'm talking about is love. Okay, and so my belief is thatthere is, but one presence and one powerty inverse, there's no negativeenergy in the universe. There's no negative beings that causes us to dobad things. There's just this energy of love,...

...and when we connect to that energy oflove, then we can see things through a whole different lins, and so for methat lives of love allows me to see, though seven years of Hail as painfulas they were through the linds of love through thelins of this loving present saying I notice is difficult right now, butthere's a purpose there's a reason behind it. So you just hold on and eventually you'll see why you hadto go through this MHM. Now, at the beginning of our conversation, Imentioned that I believe in the breakdown break through principal and and I really believe that, becauseit's a universal labely and so for me, my breakdown period, thosge, sevenyears of Hail, my breakdown period, where Mi going through the divorce andbankruptcy, foreclosure and living out of a car for two and have ys Doseor,some pretty major breakdowns in life. Right but hat I can say with absolute certainty-is that if I had to do my life over again, I wouldn't change a thing mhm, because if I left out any part of it, Iwouldn't be who I am today. I wouldn't be the man that I am today.I wouldn't be able to do the things that I do today. I wouldn't have thecompassion for others that I have to day so again. I I really believe that, as we look at society as a whole we'rein that breakdown breakfhroughperiod or were in at breakdown period, which is part of the larger divinebreakdown break through principle, our country in our world is in majorbreakdown right now, and it's really uncomfortable for a lotof people, but I'm absolutely certain that this breaknown is preparing us asa species for a major breakthrough. Coach, Michael in your world of love,which I agree with, where is forgiveness, worty o placeforgiveness and this equation of how you're able to look back and how weshould look back n in the world today, whereis forgiveness and all of this.Well, if you'll accept my belief that as human beingswere energetic beings were spiritual beings were where spiritual beings,haven, human, not human beings, having a spiritual experience O at our core atour essence is spiritual. If we're holding on to any negativeenergy, be it hate, anger, frustration, negative if we're holding onto any ofthose negative energies internally, it one it hurts. I it keeps US separatefrom the love that we truly are. So when we learn to frgive learning toforgear, GIVT allows us to release any negative energy that we ma be that wemay be holding on towards someone or something else. So forgiveness is never about the otherperson. Forgiveness is always about us. Releasing negative energy, that'sinside of us, and in doing so we become free now M. I don't remember what Iread this, but it's it's a pretty powerful statement, and so when I was in Tho e seven yearsof Hal that I was talking about with my grandmother, I was actually sexuallyabused by a male family, frank M, and it was that abuse that sort of set allof my insecurities and motion, and so when I started going throughthis healing process, I know I had to forgive it not for him,but for me, and so through a series of processes. Iallowed myself to feel the hurt, the anger, the sadness as a result of hisviolation and someone once said that you know you'vetruly healed when you can go to the person that hurtyou and say. Thank you now I never had a chance to go to thisguy and say that, and I probably never would have said it to him, but I am able to see those eevints and in a spiritual way say. Thank youbecause those painful experiences is experiences actually brought me a gift, and I know that that may be difficultto grasp, especially when you storp...

...talking about childsexual abuse it'.It's a horrific thing. But again, if we can see it through, a spiritual lends there's a gift. There was a gift in itfor me and so learning to forgive and letttinggo of all the negative energy is the way that we become free because Um Wan di you know wair. I do not yeahWandaris an author who, for years Um, I read his work and he passed away acouple of years ago and WAN is t a guy who I would consider my my mostimportant mentor when it comes to how I think the way that I think, becausewhen I was in my early twenties, I started reading Wan, Dyer's books andone of the things he said was as a human being, you have within you the capacity to doanything any other human being hey were done, Ann. If it hasn't been done, you can bethe first now whyn't I I happend to be a white guy that I just admired, butwhen I rent his books as a person who happens to be black, there wassomething in his words that I really really relelated with, and I realizethat it had nothing to do with my micity. What he was talking about was thedeeper essence of who I am as a human being, and it was that mindset that hasallowed me to far exceed what society says: a YoungBlack Guy en onl in eleventh grade education, could accomplish okay. So these lessons that I'velearned that's where I got the lesson aboutwhen you can go to someone that hurt you and SA. Thank you. You W you heelfrom it, but the Wain Dar said this. He says you know, have you ever known, someone that diesfrom a Snakebik and most people say sure you know those people whod dashfrom snake bike. He Says No, he says no one has ever died from a snakeback. Hesays you die from the poisons not to bite, MHM and so healing is away of getting that poison. Out of you, it's a way of releasing the poisons theinitial bite. obvously hurts, but that's not what kills you it's, the poison so holding on tonegative energy is poisoned and that's what t's so important to forgive. Itallows you to release the poisons. I heard someone once say he was referringto marriage, but just the key to marriage is forgiveness, but I'm sureI'm certain tha can stretch for any relationship the key to anyrelationship, his forgiveness yeah. I agree and I've been blissfully married for thepast eighteen years, happily married ie mean been togetherfor twenty years, but, like I saiit's, been an interesting journey to say the least, but through some really deep, emotional,psychological and spiritual healing. I get that and to me the cool thing about relationships onceyou deal with your own stuff is how you can get to a place where forgiveness almost doesn't happen, because here'sthe thing why do people fight in relationships is a simple reason why we always whilewe fight our relationships and we fight because of the need to be right. MHM If that Tru, we igtbecause of the needto be right, MHM, and so one to things that I learn from Wa dire is thewillingness and the ability to not have to be right right. So when my wife doessomething that just irritates to shit out of me, Ou'r just like well see, I don't have to be rightabout how I feel about that to go to her and say by no O. I know you shouldhave done that. You know the one thing we don't want to do. Isthat not how we feel right? So if she does something that upsets me, I canauthentically say how that felt. For me, one wasn't truefor me without attacking her, without having to be right to prove my point,but just by being honest wit, how it landed for me and what I'mexperiencing when you are able to do that in relationships. Relationshipsare amazing, they're heard, but with forgiveness itmakes forgiveness easier too right when...

I's on Os. You don't always have to beright. So coach when you started to Um, write and youere in Toastmasters, andyou started to the incline to your career. What was th, what wasthe most difficult part into getting the motivation into this new form of life they y were entering into the most difheart. My mystruggle- and I still have this struggle today- actually my struggle is the my inability and unwillingness to askfor help it's one of the most powerful lessonsthat I've learned. I'm still, I still struggle with it today for this day. Is that, like a pride issue or is ityou don't want to spend the money you want to just noall at all? It's just apart of me that, and again I C I can trace it back to six years old having to take care ofand defend myself. So there there's a part of me that thatis always in that mode of I can handle anything that comes my way. Okay, so that's a gift and accurse atthe same time, because if I don't allow others to be in Sumport of me- and Ican't truly create true connection, and so to this day I stall work on seeking support. I still work on beingvomerable and just being OK with meat. It's not a. There was a time of my life when therewas a lot of shame that drove that the shave's no longer there, but I can't acknowledge that. That'sstill a issue that I work with, it's something that not ashame ofanymore doesn't really destrumt my life. But if we're talking about growth, it'san area that I'm always aware of, and so I now have a support system,some amazing men and women. In my life who, when I catch myself in that space,I can call hem up ind SAI, Hey. I just want to talk to you about this, whichyou know several years ago, something that I couldn't do, but that that was the real strugglethat I had at the beginning, simply being willing to seek support. Whatwould you say is your expertise now? What is what is the thing that bringsyou most joy in your ability to do whether it's helping men or women relationships speaking?What is the thing that it? It really drives you to keep on going. Well, as I mentiond, I believe, everyone had a divine purpose and oneof our purposes is to find out and discover what or gives awe, because we all have unique gifts intowns within us. If we're willing to tap in to to my gifts, writing and speaking, I am absolutely certain if these aregifts from something greater than myself. My ability to write I've written a book a year for the pastfive years. H. Currently, writing three books. IMULTANEOUSLY! I have this gift,it's it's! It's a gift, Um! When I'm speaking on stage. There is something that takes over methat I can't explain in words it's like. I get out of the way and this energy this intelligence takes over,and I I just light up on a stan and I'm able to communicate ideas and storiesand concepts in ways that people get it and it supports them in transformingtheir lives. And so my my tag line is empowering others totransform their lives from the inside out, because I believe everything begins inmind and if we can change our minds it wecan change our laps and we can't Tang our lives until we change theinterprocess of the thoughts, the belief that we have about whoar in thWorld Rop, and so my my gift is the ability to share information withothers that support them in transforming their lifes. You mention afew times, and I think this is it's a touchy subject, but being black or I'm being white or,however, things are defined. I think I read that you speak to anyone,but also help empowering black men to...

...see their purpose. In your experience,would you say, because you're saying getting through the noise that you knowhow much similarity is there between black and white in US having the sameproblems, an need, the same encouragement and need the samemotivation, the same mentors? How much in your experience? What are youfinding? That's it's similar or it's. It's not similar and there's adifference and we should be m up in arms. What are you finding wellfirst and foremost, we have tounderstand. Let me just put his way mibily. This is Michael Taylor's belief that there are three world ews. Usually we kkin, wilver, byj Kil. Wherever he's he philosopher, Guy, really neep thinkergay, and he said there are three world views as what he calls and ethnocentricwervewd is a human centric roview. It is a cosmos. integorve. Most people see the world trough anethnocentric WOREVEU, which means Dabelin that human beings are somehowdifferent and separate from each other because of Adnissence Oky, that's anetmosetric rebut. You have others who have a humancentric, grovry, meaning they understand and recognize that all humanbeings are the same and were all intimately connected with another. And then you have a cosmocentregrob youwhich says everything is connected to each other. Everything is connectedtogether. No, I choose to see the world through Cosby, okay, cosmocentric review, because Irecognize that as human leaings again we are spiritual beings, haveinthe human experience, Esus humanbakes amly, a spiritual aspearance with thatbeing said. I also believe once again s snottalking about purpose. That there's a reason that I am a black man there's a divine purpose in it, because here in America we still have a media that has thatconstantly betmbards us with negative stories and images about black men, andthere is a belief that we are somehow different and unfortunately, in this culture there are systems that are still inplace that as black people, we have not achieved alevel of equality because of our O r o judicial system because of our media.So there's still lots of challenges out there, and so this current event. That happened toGeorge flord event in which the young guy was killed by policeman for thehead. This cop had his knee on his guy's neck for eight minutes and fortysix seconds and the guy dies basically on live television, tragic, Yeh, tragic and as tragic as it was. There is a awakening, I believe, that'soccurring, because that incident, I believe, has cracked open the heart of Americain in a whole new way, especially for white people, because Ithink there was this since that here in America, because weha chosen a black president that racism sort of just disappeared, but obviously racism hasn't disappeard.It's still a huge issue huge, but the athemist in me says. I see the world through what I'll callan evolutionary world view, because there's this intelligence thatcreated everything it knows exactly what it's doing, and so, if you really pull back andlook at it from an evolutionary world view when it comes to race, as mentionI'm six I'll be sixty this year. So I remember the civil rights movement veryclearly. I remember in an element in elementary school. I remember havingraceriots between black and white. I remember sitting at home, watching a littleblack and white TV and my grandparents and the family been watching TV and wouldnever. And if ever you saw a black personal on television, it was a hugeevent. It was like. Oh, my Gosh Sinney portieson T V, so they're calling each other on the phone Mickin shoot that you'rewatching t m because there's a black...

...person on TV in a positive light, so think about that, and so in my shortlifetime. I've seen this country go from not allowing black people to vote tochoosing a black person to lead the country. I've seen this country go fromnot having black people on television to now having black people owntelevision stations. So I see the world through a verypositive linds, evolutionary limbs, but at the same time I'm not blind. We still have challenges in our worldin regards to race, but ultimately, if you want to get really philosophicalthink about this in a spiritual context, there's a woman named Barber MarxHubber, who run Rodan amazing book called Conscious Evolution and in the book she talks about theidea, the theory that human beings are still evolling now, obviously we're not evolvingphysically, but were evolving in consciousness and so each generation. I believe eachgeneration has a higher and higher level ofconsciousness, and so she predicts that human beings are evolving to whatshe calls Homo universalice homo universal is meaning one human mm.Okay. So taking that idea, when I look at theworld and all a crap that's going on, if this is true- which I believe it is the trajectory that we're on as aspecies is actually really positive, because if you look at race, if youlook at Ginder now, I'm speaking from the context of America and t the progress that we've made as acountry from you know it hadn't been sixty years or so when women couldn'tvote. You remember that so now in this country, if you look at the influx of women inall areas of our society, for example, there's more women graduated fromcollege than men these days, there's more women in the work force than menthese days here in America. So I believe these are all positive trends,because what we're coming to understand is we're moving past. This idea that ashuman beings were different and separate from each other, were evolvingto the understanding that we're all one we're all connected intimately. We have a media that its job is tosensationalize and cause fear, and it's what's what drives the overwhelmingmajority of how people think, but then there are people like myselfwho inject a different point of view Andso by injecting this different pointof view. You can now start shifting the consciousness of the planet, and soI'm a firm believer that one person can change the world, and so my job is totake my gifts and talents and use them in some way to make the world a betterplace. And in doing so I fulfil my divine purpose and I mike o a littlebit better. How would you speak to me? Verses say another another Black Man inthe perspective that I should carry out in in an encouraging sort of way, wlike Thereis, someone, I'm forty three. If someone else a black man- and I werejust together- separate us in different rooms, how would you encourage me torecognize the challenges but also being optimistic about anevolutionary universalism that we can all aspire to together? Well see I wouldn't speak to you anydifferently than I would speak to a black man and that's what I figuredthat's what I was hoping you were getting et yeah, so I wouldn't speak toyou ony differently, and so I could seiten e room with you right and wewould say- or I could say Heybryan how do you feel about this? A I could create a space n which youand I could have a conversation about anything number one, because I'm notgoing to be defensive, I'm not going to...

...be attacking you. Judging youcriticizing you, I'm going to be connecting with you, I'm going to giveyou a space to be authentic in you, sharing your beliefs and your feelings.Okay, that's a really difficult thing to do, because, especially with race,it's a highly charged topic. We have ideas and beliefs about what you knowour beliefe about race, but from my world view, when I see Brian, I see a white guy ardestly physically,but what I know is that's not who you really are. What I know is at your core is aspiritual being that I'm connecting too, and I can connect I it I can relate toyou. I can share with you pretty much anything because I don'tsee you as different now my question to you might be when you see racial injustice, how does that make you feel? No most people will go to what theythink. Well, you know I've heard people say, for example, when Joye Flor waskilled, people were bringing up the fact that he had a bad past right. Sothey're thinking about things versus feeling thecompassion in the watching a person die Yat right. So if we can get out of thethinking and get into the feeling, that's where we connect rather than try to justify somethingsaying you know, this is a fellow human and there was no other words than to say itwas tragic and it should never happen. Yeah, so prequetion becomes as a group, collectively white people. Are you willing to feel the pain that we of black people feelon a daily basis? As a result of our skin color see, there's, there's a woman. I can'tremember her name. She happens to be a white woman. She talks about a race, alot and she she asked this question in her her similars or whatever with whitepeople. She says I want you to raise your hand. I want you to raise your hand if you are willing to move through the world as a blackperson and I'm paraphrasing. That's notexactly the worst as she used. She says. So, raise your hand if you would becomfortable moving through the world as a black person, and then she saysnobody ever raises their hand. She says why is that because, deep down, you know as a whiteperson as a wine person you're not going toexperience the world the same way so collectively as human beings, werecognize if you're white, you may not be able to empathize wit being black, but you can havecompassion and sympathy and recognize that okay, I, since I can see that there are differences. Black people aretreated differently now. Here's another thing that I willinterject and I think this is sort of not the way to go about it. So there'sa lot of talk right now about white privilege. I'm sure you've heard thatturn right. I don't think white people should feelguilty about white priverage. You shouldn't feel guilty about yourethnicity. You shouldn't feel guilty aboutsomething your grandparents might have done. You shouldn't feel shame are guiltabout that. You shouldn't embrace your ethnicity,but you also once again should have compassion for people who don't looklike you and recognize that who you are simply by the color of your skinautomatically makes your life a little simpler rue, but you shouldn't feel that aboutthat. It's it's a challenge like it's, likeyou know, a double edged sword. However, you slice it someone's not going to be happysomeone's, not going to be comfortable. It's, as you said, it's you know it's acharged topic and- and I think there's almost this is myyou know it's O, like you say, hypothetical someone. Doesn't somepeople don't answer hypothetical questions, because it's a hypotheticalquestion and for me to, I think you use e word to have empathy right to havecompassion or it's hard to have empathies it, but to havhave compassion like I would.

I would change my shoes. I would changemy shoes with someone, but we can't do it and that's the part that it makes itso difficult, but it just like. I wish I could do this. If I, if I could dothis, I mean there's something you know: good man will lay down m his life foranother m. If we could do it and all things wouldI think there would be a line up of people sufficient. You know if oneperson could do it right. I think there was to lay down their life for the many, and that would be enough in asking ahuman asking a person to do so. I think there would be a sufficient amount ofpeople to do so, but we can so we have to live. You know and work on it and wehave to engage with one another, an we have to connect and we have to keepdoing and be nd, as you're saying remind whether it's a white privilege or the difficulties happening to black people in you know around theworld or in America as you're, referring I'm from Canada. But you knowI I see it right. I I first came to Korea and they didn't hire people who were not white andspoke English itw. It's not just Korea, China, Japan,all of those countries and 'm like why in now things have changed right. I 'cause. I know there are other cultures and other ethnicities in Korea and O in Japan, so things haveChe er. This is I'm talking fifteen years Um, but I was aware of it andlike so really and it I didn't- have any more talent than anyone else. It'sI happen to g have a piece of paper. That said, I finished something, andthat was it, and so it's so hard to to switch the shoes, but I think we dodefinitely have to work on it and understand and acknowledge. There issomething going on, but as you're saying as the optimist isto get through this noise and acknowledge it and don't you know the media that it it pounds on you,pounds on your pound pounds on someone and it makes people bitter, especiallyif there's no forgiveness, especially if there's no love, if there's nosincerity, there's no compassion and people. Just another reason to you knowbe hateful, so it's so hard, but it can't be pushed to the side. Well again, let's go back to thebreakdown break through prisoer break down his heart. It's tough and right now people arereally really uncomfortable. Um There's a guy named Emanuel ACO, former NFLplayer black eye mmaisen Goy, and he does a show. It'san online show now that it's called uncomfortable conversations with ablack man, okay and he's bringing on celebrities and athletes and so forth,and he's having these really difficult conversations in a context in whichpeople are going. Oh, you know, I never thought about it. Just like you and Ire having right now he's doing this on a national stage andit's it's really powerful and so Um. Are you familiar with Matthew,mcconnaug Hay, the actor Matthew, mcconahey yeah, Matthew mcconna has hehe was one of the first guys on the SHOWP and he said Matthew. So this is o.He says welcome to uncomfortable conversations ging to black me, and so you get the share or ask any question any question that you may have, and sothey had this amazing conversation about. You know this beliece as a whiteguy versus demanus beliece as a black guy, and it's it's a really moving show.He had a series or an episode in which you know he brought out someinterracial couples. Talking about the challenges of interatof couples and andhow you know the interratial couple s how they have to you know: Navigate thedifferences in cultures and so forth. But the show is a huge, huge success rightnow and it's really engaging people in conversations in ways that we reallyhaven't seen before and once again another the reason for my optimism, Umthat show and the conversation that he's having and again from my perspective, what I'm seeing collectively as aspecies, a human species. Humanity is simply waking up because this domine intelligence thatset all this in motion. It knows exactly what it's doing, and it'sintelligent enough to build a system that I believe ultimate ultimately willcreate heamven on earth. I believe that...

...without question, that's the trijectorythat we're on will that happen in my Lafe in my lifetime, probably not, but the trajectory that were on as aspecies tells me that we are still evolving. We are still waking. U, weare starting to understand the oneness, andunity and humanity, and so thequestion we have to ask ourselves is: Are we willing? Are we willing, first and foremost, todo our inner work to heal whenever scars Wewe may becarrying around, which would keep us from being able to connect intimatelywith others, because when we do our inner work and tap into the essence ofwho we are? What we'll find is that we are no different and ot will not wellstop seeing people differently, because that difference is just tha belief. It's just a thought that you think overand over again. So if we can change that belief that we're different, wechanged the world coach Michael. What do you? What do you find yourself doingon a daily basis? How? How does your days look? Well, I'm a firm believer in meditationand silence, and so every morning begins with just that. Silence I'll spend fifteen twenty minutes incomplete silence, just sort of just getting cintered and just being atpeace with myself and then there's a guy named might do d, Lle might do and he sendsout this daily email and it's called notes from the universe and every emailis like imagine having a conversation with the universe, an you can exchangethe word Guy Wen univers Haf you like, but he sends up these notes from theuniverse and are always thought provoking in sightful andsometimes hilarious. But I spen a lot of time in quiet contemplation with themessage that he sends out because there's something in his messages thatreally really resolate with me. So I'll spend a LE W A little time just therein contemplation about whatever that message might be for Thoday. The message may come across and N. Theysay no from the universe and you mad just say you rock. You knows it's a positive thing, so Ijust I I put myself in a mindset of positivity and gratitude. Then Iyou Knowi'll, just kindo, go andand check emails or whatever get that out of the way and depending on if I'vegot a speaking, engagement or Noght I'll get prepared for that, once theday is over, my wife comes home and I love on o levelon her a little bit andkiss her and Hugger and con Mo blessings for having her an alive andgo to sleep and have a good night, so you're a full time, writer a full time.Speaker, that's how you spend your dayspreparing for that coach. A couple more questions. You'vebeen very gracious to me to give me your time. What advice do you have for people,starting in work, people who might be disappointed with their job someone's in between jobs? What sort of advice would you give tothem to to give them sort of a motivation? Ifyou know a flicker of a motivation in some positive thought for ther day I,if you'll buy into my ida my concept that s human beings, we are intergeticbeings, a! Are you familiar with the low attraction? Yes, okay, so if we'reenergetic means which I believe we are now, we don't attract what we want we attract, who we are. So, if I'm in a job that I hate and I really Hatt what kind of Ellegy am I going to beMitty? It's gotta ee, a Ne, it's NOTA be nege, okay, so guess what as I'msending out that negative inter everything around me, it's going to atract that which is like it that negative an so when I go to work, I'mprobably going to a track of boss. That is just a pain in t e Blak, right Anif.I go to work with that kind of energy. My coworkers aren't going to be thefriendliest people around. Why? Because I'm attracting to me that which I am sono matter what situation we may be in, we must be connected to the energy thatwere givin low, so we can do really uncomfortable jobs without beingnegative Andi. I'm gointo share I'm going to share I his story with Hi Boutthat because gratitude is an energy...

...that attracts more things to be graken.For so let me I want Ta Shatter Story So, as mentioned I was home est tore whileliving out of my car and to survive to eat. I would go to what'scalled the Labor Pool and the Labor Pool is where you have x, convicts andHomeless People. They come to this place and they'll get these little oddjobs and they may make you know five bucks an hour right mhmbut. Atleast you can make some money mike to eat. So I go to the Labor Hall to find a job just so I could get somefool toe well. I went several days in a rope and I didn't get Picke to go outon a job, so I had no money. No Food I was hungry and I ha been G had began studying thisspiritual, stup right this Lov attractand whatever, and so I'm sittingup late one night, I'm I'm having a prayer, and I said, Godd. Ok, look. Ijust need a job to day, so I can get my little fifteen twenty bucks arcape. Isaid so whatever job you're willing to give me I'm willing to do it, but Ijust need a job tomorrow. I just when I go in I'm praying that I will get a job,so I go in Te Lagbor Hall e next morning, N Insin, like five in themorning right, so I go into the Leighborhall and I sit down. I wasn't there for two minutes and theguy just points at me. He says Hoy you coming. He says you have a car. I said yes, hesaid great. He gives me a Ticke Borthe job, so I'm driving down the road under one.I realized that God had answered my prayer. I had a job I was going to getsome might so I drofted a job and it happens to be one of those porter pottycompanies. You know those portable voiolet companies hm in my job was the cleaner okay. So I pull in. I look around Igo O te, the guy who I pull up to now. Again.He deals with you know, like I said, homeless, people x, convicts orwhatever so he's got a really negative attitude anyway. So he combs up woth mehe grasp my ticket. He says: Okay theres. What I need to do. He thinks meout that he's giveme gives me this raincoat a hose a mop, a bucket. Hesays I need you, coud clean out these portable twen and he's a real jackatsto be on so anyway, I'm sitting there and I'm going Oh a do. I really needthis money that bad do I risk going to do this and I said Bos God. I promised that ifyou gave me a Chib o ever, you gave right so I'm sitting here, I'm cleaningthese tauts and I'm smiling. I'm counting my blessing that I have ajob. What I HAV won Yeh now, all of a sudden it begins to rain, and I'm not talking just rain. I'mtalking torrential downpor right, so I go inside to the guy I said: Hey. Can Iwait Ntil, it's notright n. He Says No! You need to finish those now becausethey have to go out very quickly. That's why I gave you Raingo B, im in the rain cleaning out a freak ingportable toiletwith a smile on my head. Thank you. Thank you for Thisjagratitude. Did I like it course not, but I was grateful. I was grateful for the job so I' deatthat for eight hours right and it Raine for probably five of those hours. So I go back to work. I get my little Cheqk, it's like fortyfive dollars or whatever I'm smiling an the one I get to eat. I sleep in my car. I get up the next day to go to theLabor Pool. Again I sit down the same guy. He said: Hey you gottaHar, Right You'! Go You Gota Cyeah. He pois me because a lot of the guys don'thave cars right, so they get no e. So he goes come here. He dives me take it.So I now inoted his job and is in this really fancy of office building attheir building brandew office. Building Right, so I go in complete opposite experience. Theforman comes over. He says Michael Welcome. He says here. This is what Ineed. You to do now, it just so happens that my background is in buildingmaterials and Electrom MHM, and so here I am, I'm supposedly cleaning I'm supposed tobe cleaning stuff, but one of the electrices needed some help and I justhappened to walk over and I said O. I...

...know how to do that. He says: Do youreally? I said Yeah, he says great, you do so. I I helpe this guy all day and the guy was so impressed that theelectrician hired me full time just like cleaning the garage back whenyou're fourteen. I can do that. So my point here is for that person whois in that job that they hang the first thing they've got to do is clean upthat inege. The first thing they've got to do is learn to find something to begraceful for no matter how much they may may not like being there, becauseuntil they shift that energy, nothing is going to change tit. So an attitude of gratitude is thesimplest way to begin shipting that an begins shaking who you are becauseagain you only track what you mart. You attract who you are so a lot of peoplesay I want to make more money. Well, if you don't resognate inside with the, Iam good enough to have more money. I Love Myself For who I am I desert Oknow. If you don't have that energy you'll never attract more money toyou'll, never attract the better position. It all begins with you. Itbegins with the attitude of gratitude, so be graceful for wherever you arewhatever you are, whatever you're doing, and the more you're grateful the moreyoue attracting to be gratefulful forgiveness, love and gratitude thereyou go coach Mikao. Where can they find you siblaswas coach, Michael Taylor, dcom.You can find out all about my work and books and everything right. There,coach, Michael Taylor, dotcoc coach, my cotailor one more question: you've already answered it Whi. Why doyou work? Why do I work? Because I believe that I am simply a divine manifestationof the infinite intelligence that created this amazing Universi that welive in and so as this manifestation, as this divine expression of theuniverse. It is my responsibility to share my unique gifts and talents withthe world to make it a better place, and that's why I work and I believethat you're doing that coached Michael Taylor. I appreciate you and I hope youall the best, and I would like to talk to you again sometime, thank you, but Iappreciate it.

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