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Episode 89 · 1 year ago

#89 Brenden Kumarasamy - MasterTalk - BrianVee WhyWeWork

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Brenden Kumarasamy is a well spoken and thoughtful young man, which is why he is the talent behind MasterTalk. Brenden's MasterTalk Youtube channel has gained traction as he has harnessed his speaker and facilitating skills to help others overcome fears in public speaking and begin perfecting the art of communication.

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About

"If there's one word that describes myself best, it would be impact.

I'm passionate about helping others achieve rocket level success, whether it's helping others overcome their fear of public speaking, helping startups with their pitch decks to raise capital or my current role at IBM, helping clients transition to better technology HR solutions to help them do business better.

I'm also an avid learner, listening on average to 10 hours of podcast a week and watching many different educational shows on YouTube in my free time. I've linked up my top 50 videos for you to enjoy and learn from in a playlist called "Inspiring Talks".

Please feel free to reach out if you're interested in helping others succeed. I love chatting with like minded individuals who are equally passionate about making an impact on other people's lives.

Accomplishments and Personal Skills/Attributes

• Coached 100+ individuals on mastering the art of public speaking having spoken at organizations such as Next AI, Technovation Montreal (@Microsoft's Montreal offices), UpstartED and Front Row Ventures

• Sold 100+ copies of consumer pre-orders for Scott Harrison’s Thirst (New York Times Best Seller) as part of the book launch team

• Led a construction SaaS deal during time in venture capital leading to an investment of 25,000$

• Languages: English (Spoken & Written), French (Spoken & Written), Tamil (Spoken)

• Competed in 40+ case competitions across Canada" (LinkedIn, 2021)

Welcome to why we work with your host Brian V. As he speaks to people like you from all over the world as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which would be an encouragement to us all to get up, get going on, keep on working. Working is tough, but working is good. Now here's your host to why we work. Brian V. I'm Brian V, and this is why we work today. I had the great pleasure speaking with Brendan Komara. Sammy Brendan is a business transformational consultant at IBM, but he's also the founder of Master Talk, where he helps people speak with others to communicate. To get our message out there, he shows us how to get over the jitters, how to gain confidence in what we say. And today I want to find out how he does that, how he can help us all communicate better. Join me in my conversation today with Brendon Kumar Asami. I'm Brian V and this is why we work today. Have the great pleasure Speaking with Brendan Camara. Sammy. Good evening, young man. Good evening, Brian. How are you? I'm doing wonderfully Well, catch you off guard. Your young man should Usually people don't say good evening. They just go. Yo. Yeah, I know this is I'm sure this is my tag now. Like good evening. Good morning, young man. Or young lady. In your case, young man. Brendan, there's a lot on the Internet about you. I could find a lot. I found a lot and I'm learning a lot. And the more I learn about you, the more interested I am. Can you give us a snapshot of who you are? Not too much. Just a little bit of what You're what you're doing right now. Yeah, absolutely. I'm the founder of Master Talks, a YouTube channel. I started to help people through communication skills. So I guess that's the snapshot. Well, that's perfect, Brendan, What was your first job? What was the first thing that you did? Even as a young teenager? The first job, very first working like you're at a Montreal, so I can't pick something making poutine. I'm not sure, man. Don't make me hungry, man. I haven't had a patina like three months. Quarantines been tough to me, but no, the first I would say the first job ahead. I guess I'm one of those privileged people. Even if I grew up impoverished is, uh my first job was actually in government. Okay? I had a couple. I'm like, What s So your first got job was in government. I actually saw some of your bios. Very interesting. So what did you do? And how old were you? I waas 16. I believe that's what that's what I mean, It's still young. It's still young. To be working at 16 is pretty good. The difference is working in the government. Most people are McDonald's or delivering papers or something. So what was this position? Yeah, I got lucky that I guess that's one way of putting. I worked for Correctional Services. Canada s so basically the it's like the department in Canada that manages the jails and the But I was on the bureaucracy side, like I was on the admin side. So it was like there was an office in a suburb near Montreal and I just did paperwork all day pretty much just listen to Korean music all day and and that's it. That's funny. Why did you get that job and I guess. How did you get that job is? Well, so why? What got you out of the house at 16 toe work in. And how did you get that position? Yeah, for me 16. It was mostly just to do summer internship. You know, it was graduating from high schools, looking to go to see Shep soon. Which is college. No, it's...

...just the first year. First year? Where is that offered? Ontario and Montreal. That's actually just came back. So it's just just come back, You got it. So you get in additional year, so it's almost like an extension of high school, But it's pre college or university, and it prepares you thio whatever path you may choose. So at 16, you kept that job right up until you went to see Jeb. You got it Actually, only had it for four months. It was just a summer internship. They wanted to keep me for the part time, but I was like, No, I gotta study so So why? But why did you get it like this is probably why we work. Why people do the things they do. Was it a family influence saying Okay, Brendan get out of the house and get some money or you had your own desires. Toe work. You were starting to think about your career, then, Yeah, you're absolutely definitely the second. I wanted to go out there and started making money because my parents and that's what's fascinating. I guess about your show is everyone's got different cultural values and how they live in men, their house. So let's say a lot of American families were like, We're gonna kick you out of, like, 18 Or as my parents were like, You're not allowed to work until you have a degree. It's kind of like the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Well, you mentioned Korea and your enjoyment of Korean K pop music. That's that sums up Korean culture in that mode. And it's not all. But most students are not allowed or are discouraged of getting a job until they're finished university, which from you would understand in Canada, from my perspective, some people who live in that's very foreign. The idea like What do you mean? I need to get a job at 14 or 13 or do something or get out of the house to keep sanity. But in some cultures, it's It was very much, um, appointed for people toe on Lee. Get their first job after they've graduated from university. Absolutely, man. Yeah, it's It's It's very interesting to see how different cultures operate. Like it's wonderful to Oh, yeah, Absolutely. In your case, Yeah. Eso In my case, like, even today, I have a pretty good job. My day job is very good. I still live with my mom. Nice, right? I never moved on. I don't think I'll ever move on until I'm married When I'm, like off, like, 7, 10 years from now. How old are you, Brendan, if you don't mind me asking? No, of course I don't mind. Just such a nice guy. I'm 24. Well, yeah. So you're You're pretty young. And that's what I was thinking. And I didn't technically move out of my house until I got married. Like it. No matter. I had many jobs before that, like before, getting married or from my youth. But I really didn't break away from my mom until late my late twenties, like almost 30 when I really first moved to Korea and got married. So that that's how that works. So what did you take in university? I took accounting. And why? Why did you take it? So it seems for and I think your story is encouraging because not all people have a plan. Not all people are getting government jobs at 16 and wanting to go work and kind of, ah, less bumpy ride on how they choose things. And then you're picking accounting. Did you have a plan like you mentioned Master talk? Is that part of the plan? Where you thinking that early about your career, or are you still trying to figure that out now, which is not far removed courses. So the answer is a bit of both in many ways, so So Definitely the plan was in place when I was 12. I made the decision to be an accountant, and the reason and this is advice I would give for anyone who's looking for a job in thinking about the career path is I call it the process of elimination. It's a lot easier to figure out what you don't want to do in life versus what you do dio. So if you go through the all the careers, you can figure out exactly what you want to be focused on. So in my case, it was an easy decision. I was good at math, and I was bad at everything else to being accounted bait. The both sense. And I just never changed my mind for a decade. So as you're and you went to McGill, did you know I went to Concordia? E did get...

...accepted to McGill. You did get It was one of my choices as well. I really wanted to go to Montreal and go thio to go to school while you were in school. Were you thinking where you wanted to go, What you wanted to do, What was what was on your mind and again for listeners? It's three idea of the thought process of people from high school to university. For myself, it was it was not so clear. Cut. I switch degrees. But what was it for yourself? Yeah, absolutely. So I'm kind of a crazy person. Like I knew I wanted to be senior executive of a company when I was 19, right? So when I went to university, I said, Okay, I need to be a senior executive at IBM at Mackenzie at a at one of these big companies so that I can have the income to retire my mom and be in a position that when I have kids in my thirties that I don't have toe, I don't have to struggle in the same way that my parents did so And so to answer your question. Essentially, Master Truck was never in the picture, right? It was just I never wanted to be an entrepreneur. That's the last thing I was on my mind. I thought entrepreneurship was for crazy. People couldn't get a six figure corporate job. I was like, No, no, let me get get into corporate So that was the rash, not the beginning. And, of course, as as as the story unfolded, I changed my mind. So what is your title then? Or what is your present job? I know you have it listed as a business transformational consultant at IBM. Is that what you're presently doing as well alongside with master talk? That's correct. So I'm a technology consultant. They're essentially implement tech for different clients, and that's my full time gig. Okay, so how long have you been working there. I'm going almost on two years in April. So obviously you have a career. You have a job, you have a source of income. But where does master talk and how did that start to develop? And what is your plan for that, or even that side of your communication business? Yeah, absolutely happened. Expense. Essentially, what happened was when I was in university, I did these things called case competitions. It's a lot like professional sports, but for nerds. So other guys my age were playing sports like footy or cricket. Or, you know, baseball or basketball. I was never into that stuff. I did presentations competitively and a lot of university, especially in Canada. Since you're from there are big case competition schools like Dalhousie in Nova Scotia and many of the other Canadian universities. Would you go up against each other in presentation? So I know this bizarre was a K T. And was in a shadow to a Katie where I went. Was Katie in any of these competitions, of which I obviously missed the boat on? No, but I am familiar with the university. But no, they weren't. It was mostly mostly uh, it's always a competition between Tallinn. Arcadia. Yeah, it's mostly It was Del Insane effects, Yes. So? So those people would compete in those things. So I was I was I was crazy. And the reason I did these competitions was to get a job in consulting and business out of business school. I wanted to work at McKinsey. I want to work with these. Censure the consulting firms once again. No, no master talk here was really just let's get this corporate job, get out of poverty. And if I got that job, I would be successful. So after I did a stint at PricewaterhouseCoopers and I realized I didn't want to be an accountant anymore, I went after that corporate job in in Consulting and I got it. And that's when the idea for master talking because after I got out of poverty just said, Okay, so what do I do with my life now? I'm going to climb up this ladder. I'm going to make the money that I need to sustain myself. What's next for me? And what I realized in the three years that I was obsessing over case competitions is what happened or random set of experiences has ended up becoming the youngest professional speech coach of the world. That's a that's a good title. Brendan E. Heard. Or I read something about you remembering putting your first video. And as I just mentioned, I went to a...

Katie University, where I remember communications one on one, you know, communications, one class and us having to present, and I do not remember. I wasn't a very good student, maybe apparent. That's quite apparent, but also in high school. I don't remember doing any presentations, and so when university came along and we had to do a presentation, I was absolutely mortified. I was terrified. And I recall to this day, and I've said it on here a couple of times, maybe at least just once, that while doing my presentation, I think I did it on Alexander Keats. Those who like it like it a lot beer. Just They give you any topic so you can learn to feel comfortable. And my legs my knees were shaking and I look Oh, I looked over to Kathleen Martin James, who was my communications professors. My legs are shaking. There's 40 people. They just keep going. And I recall at a red where you we're a little fearful of doing your first YouTube video. Can you bring us back to that? And e, I guess Answer the question of why do you think people are so fearful of communicating and talking with people, which is one of the most common things we do. Natural things we do absolutely. And the short answer to this Brian is it makes sense, right? And the reason it makes sense is, if you think about it, all the presentations we begin, our lives are mandatory. We don't wake up one morning and say, Hey, Brian, you wanna get some breakfast and present all day? I think I'm probably one of four people in Canada who says that right? So because of that, when we see presentations, three things happened when we do them, one we never get to pick. The topic in university in college in high school were always presenting to students who don't really care, and three were always presenting to teachers who don't have time to coaches. Unfortunately, this behavior gets repeated on and on until we're led to believe that public speaking is a chore It's like doing the dishes or mowing the lawn when public speaking in reality is about making a difference is about sharing an idea that matters. But because our frame of mind us off, we start to shake. We start to get worried. So question I always like to ask people to reflect on is the following. How would the world change if you were an exceptional communicator? Mhm. You can find an answer to that question. You'd say, Wait a second. If I became a great communicate, I could have better relations with my wife. I could be a better podcast host. I could have better conversation with my friends. And that's when you start to think of communication and more as something you need to master rather than an afterthought or a chore. And that's how you reframe your perspective. And that's what happened with me With the YouTube channel is Well, even if I had so many presentations under my belt when it came to putting myself out there in the public eye in a permanent way, kind of freaked out a bit, I said, Oh, I don't wanna put up videos, So why did I do it. I did it because there are people out there who can't afford communication coaches like 16 year old girls or 15 year old boys that nobody is making video content for on communication. So I wanted to be that person for them and then kind of things just kind of went crazy after that. So I guess depending on what you want to talk about, what you prefer to talk about, whether IBM or master talk, what is the process that you go with through with these one? Both of these positions that you have so in a week? Or maybe Cove, it is a little bit different for you. So you're not doing all the things that you normally would be doing. Maybe with IBM. I'm not sure if businesses a slower, but what is the process that you go through because you have a lot of content on YouTube channel and I urge people to go check it out because...

...it looks very professional is well, so it's not You're not just throwing things together. And as I maybe I heard you mentioned your first few videos that the production was not as good, which I didn't see it. Just something you commented on. But you seem to have revamped it, and you have yourself a really good channel there. Now, I appreciate that. And that's why I recommend people think about at the beginning. There is no process. You really just got to get into the habit of creating. Like, the first year I didn't edit a single video, I just took out a phone and just did videos, and they weren't really good. But over time since I was an expert in my in my field, I eventually got good on camera and I was able to bold my thoughts much more effectively on video. And that's what led to to what I do today and the outcome that we see with master talk. Yeah, I'm happy to walk you through that process. So for IBM, pretty simple client comes up to us Tijuana system to be implemented. That we spend the next six months to 18 months depending on the situation, implementing it. So how you host workshops for people? You figure out what they wanted? The system. You fix it. You Rita, right? Until you go live. Pretty simple, actually. Not that simple. but it gives, you know, review. But for master talk, there's kind of two angles. So the first angles, How do I create videos in the second angles? How do I coach clients? So the angle for the YouTube videos is I outsource everything. So essentially my best friend does everything from the production. He films me and I give him a big chunk of my personal salary from to do that. And then I optimize the video, and I just sit there on the camera. I look pretty, and I and I and I present that's the first part for coaching. Clients have a whole framework that we go into, but the general idea is you want to get them one win, and then as they get more MAWR wins, the mindset changes, and they think they can be an incredible speaker. And once that barrier husband passed, that's it than that that they think they're going to be the best and they become the best. What is some some difficulties that you may face in the work that you do in some satisfactions that you get from the work? Maybe more so on your your master talk side Yeah, for sure. Happy to comment on this? I would say, For me, the most satisfying part of the job is the impact. You know, I think I'm kind of like Robert Hood in many ways, you know, to get coaching fees from the top 1% of the people who can afford me. So I could make better videos for the 99% who can't, right? So I think that's something that I that I'm really passionate about, that I really care about, like conversations like this, you know, people have access to me. They could listen to the this knowledge base without paying anything, and it helps them get better and improve. That's one part challenge. There's definitely a lot. I would say The biggest challenge I had at the beginning was getting coaching clients because I was very young at the time, actually, still am. But when I started, I was 22. So it's really hard to get executive clients who have worked at a company longer than you've been alive and you giving them advice on how to improve. But But I got lucky with a couple of relationships that I built, and I was ableto gain that trust. But I would say the advice I give people is show. Don't tell, don't tell people that you're coach. Don't tell people you're podcasters. Show them the result. So what I used to do when I started, I used to email people I wanted to work with, and I wouldn't email them saying, Here's a YouTube video. I'm a coach. No, no, I would say, You suck like I watched your keynote and I found on YouTube, but I found 48 mistakes. Here are the mistakes by So they always replied with How much do you charge? And then they fix those 48 mistakes for them. Is there a skill that's that's great. I like how you approach that. Is there a skill that you've had to develop over the last four years to be in the position? You're in that Well, you know, letting us know what this skill is will help listeners start to develop or work on the skill, regardless of how old they are. Yeah, absolutely. Do you mean like a life skill in general that, you know, I think, is important? Not necessarily life skill, A skill in in the art of...

...communication? Absolutely sure. So here's one skill is how do you practice for presentations? Most people don't do it well, don't know how to do it in the right way. So let me kind of explain it this way. Public speaking is like a jigsaw puzzle bright. You know those pieces you kind of put together in a puzzle? Mhm. So if I asked you, let's say you're doing a puzzle with your wife or your family or something. Which pieces would you start with first and why? And I'm going to answer this question. I usually start with the elder border, so I have. I know where my my boundaries are. Absolutely. And that's the right answer, right? It's easier to find the corner pieces. So the question to ask ourselves is, Why don't we do that in public speaking way? Have a classroom, boardroom conference room. So what do we do? Well, you start with the middle. We shove a bunch of content, get to the presentation, we ramble through the entire thing, we get to the last slide and it sounds something like this is, um yeah, eso. Thanks. That's probably 97% of all the presentations I hear, but there's an easy way to fix this. Treat your public speaking presentations like a jigsaw puzzle. Start with the edges. First, practice your introduction 50 times, not three times, not five times. Do it 50 times 50. Seems like a big number. It actually isn't your introductions a minute thinking our to do it. Same thing with the conclusion. What's a great movie with the terrible ending? Last time I checked Terrible movie. Same thing 50 times. The conclusion. In two hours of practice, not two days, Not two weeks, not two years. Two hours. You look at your presentation. Go Wow! Makes you really good at this introduction, this conclusion and then with that newfound confidence. Then you die for the and then after you die for the middle realized that if you're working on her 2000 piece puzzle, why would you do that alone? Work with the team, get a community together, get some people who are excited to learn This may be joining Toastmasters Club and master the puzzle. I've heard of Toastmasters a couple times in the last time I heard of it. I was going to ask the person Thio, Let us know our delve a little bit further. Could you let us know what a Toastmasters classes? Yeah, of course. Toastmasters are clubs, so every in every city in the world, pretty much there's Toastmasters. They're so it's such a what it is. It's a gathering of people. What? You practice your communication skills every week, and it's also very cheap. It's like 80 bucks a year or something. Canadians. So that might translate to different currencies across the world. But but it's relatively inexpensive in general. And what's great about Toastmasters is because of that. You you have that community. So if you don't know anyone that wants to practice communication with you, you just go to the club and figure it out. But then, of course, if you have more budget and you want to get there faster, the results, then you hire a coach. But for most people, I generally recommend a start at a Toastmasters club, so there's no other connection between the people. Accept that they want to be better communicators. That's correct. And then the the end of building a bond together. It's like being a part of like a ah sports club. It's just for public speaking. Brendan, how are you staying so productive? So you have your full time job. You're also doing this which you know, editing and producing. And all of that is a whole other realm of it. How are you staying? Productive. What's what's getting your feet on the ground? Yeah, absolutely. So I would say for me, the biggest thing is understanding how to prioritize your goals and then prioritizing your time around those goals. So I have a rule where I can't have more than three goals at any given time. So I know where my energy is, where I need to focus. So one of those goals, of course, growing the YouTube channel right? Another goal is, you...

...know, doing something else, building a business, whatever. And then from those goals you prioritize your time and your activities around that. So that's the first part. So that way you're only focused on activities that drive the needle on those three things that when those goals get knocked out, you can replace them with a new set. That's the way that I think about productivity. The other thing is that understanding that balance means different things for different people, right? So for me, a balance is something that's very different from everyone else. What I encourage people dio is to really define that for yourself. Does that mean three days with the kids? Does that mean one day with the kids? Does that mean three hours of Does that mean three date nights with your significant other? Does that mean once a month, like I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here? E. Just think for me and my stage of life just because you know I live with my mom, A lot of my at you know, a lot of my things they're taking care of for me, and I'm really lucky. I can just focus on working all the time in executing what I want, because that's my priority. So it's about figure out what your priorities are and aligning the activities around your day around those three. And that's how you stay really productive. Brendan. How How proud is your mom of you? E. I mean, when I was 24 years old. Not that my mom, my mom would have been proud. No matter what I did, but you're You're 24. You said you started this at 22. You were working for the government, 16 e. I mean, I'm sure you have your faults in your quirks or and your mom's like Brendan, but I think she's probably pretty proud of you. And I think you let your mom know. I said she's doing a pretty good job. Ah, you're too kind. Yeah, my mother is a sweetheart. I'm really blessed to have her in my life. So So, Yeah, I I love a lot of my success to her, honestly, thinking of people who are getting into work, you're getting into the government position at 16. But other people get another positions, which are perfectly fine, and people change careers as well. Do you have a tip for just getting into work? And the hope is to encourage people to work. But as they picked that first job, or maybe they're hesitant, they're scared to change the position that they want to change into, or they're just a little nervous about getting their first job. Do you have any tips for them? 100%. The biggest mistake I see people make with the job search is, they think it's a single player game. They go, I need to get a job. So I need apply to 50 places and then hopefully get something. I think that's the wrong approach that will exhaust you and won't get you a job. Most probably the most common way people do it. Correct. Here's the tip that I suggest this is the way I've navigated because a lot of the jobs I've gotten a mother for extremely competitive, maybe 2% of the talent pool actually get an offer a torrent at PWC or IBM or any of those other companies. So here's the advice. Thea Vice is treated like a team player game partner up with three people who want the exact same job is you. I know that sounds very counterintuitive. That's pretty part. Yeah, it's part of the challenge. That's a challenge, right? And I'll explain why so I can prove my point. So, people, because some people can can see what I mean here. So pick three people that you care about, that you trust that your best friends like you do or dies. People that are just as motivated as you that want the same job is you, ideally or just people in general and go after the jobs together, apply to the same jobs, interviewed the same positions and train together. Why do I recommend this? Because any person who treats the job search process like a team player game will always beat anyone who's treating it like a single player, because single player means you're one mind working on your own. The other. The other teams got four mines constantly coaching each other, and they're keeping each other motivated. They're eating pizza together. They're having fun. And you know, the best part...

...of that group is if I'm in that group and you're in that group and two other people, you all get jobs. Except for me. Most people think that's a losing game. They're like Brendan, you just helped all these people. You didn't get a job, but here's what they miss Bryant. Who are you going to recommend the next time there's an opening? Are you gonna recommends? Are you going to recommend some random schmuck? Are you going to recommend the guy who stayed up every night with you? Bought you pizza? Encouraged you? Bond, That's why I'll never be unemployed, especially if, in that case it was just a numbers game. They're only hiring two guys, but the next quarter they're gonna hire two more girls. But here's the best part that I would love to encourage people Anyone who's applying the strategy, almost all of them already have jobs. Which means if you apply this, you have no competition. So go out there and execute. Can you say that again? Think that was good Course. The great news of this is you're not competing against me in the market. I have a job. Yeah, right. Which means if you apply this, you won't have any competition because everyone who applies this rule has a job, almost all of them, right? So that's the benefit. You work together, and it does. It's setting you up even in the business or company that you're working for as a team player. You didn't do this on your own. You don't getting this self righteousness of this is Look what I did. And I earned this all on my own. You were working together with a team where they were helping to show you your faults and areas where you could improve. It's a I've never heard that your your wise young man to kind. You might not want to hear Young, but still still why? It's fine. It's fine. I like it. You know why I like being called young? Because it always reminds people are listening. If I could do it, What's your excuse? True story? Yeah, I read somewhere else. Don't don't let people forsake you because of your youth, so keep that with you. You're so Canadian. I love it. So you're too kind. What is it in in, regardless of what industry people get into? What is the top character trait that you believe people should not morally. Just grab this thing, but just think about in their day to day work. I would say for me as if you're in a in a career, if that's what you mean, like in an actual job. I think the biggest mistake people make when they have a job is they don't think like an executive. So what does that mean? It doesn't matter what role you have. You could be an entry level admin. You could be a consultant. Always think like an executive's whenever you do undeliverable, whenever you do something, always ask yourself what does the person three levels above me, What would they do in this situation and why would they do that? And the other part of that is to meet those executives for coffee. I see very little employees taking the initiative to meet people who have been in the company for 5, 10 years and just getting to know them. Those are the relationships that save you and recessionary periods, those air, the relationships that protect you from job loss. So I'd really encourage people toe to build relationships with people are much more senior than you, so that they're on your that you're on the radar. They know you're thinking of them, and the more you talk to them, the more you condition your mind to become like them. So that's what I did When I started IBM. I just met seven executives for coffee, and then they all went, Oh, yeah, Brendan's the type of person want to keep around so that would cover it. Hit? Uh, I was just sleeping around, you know, just doing nothing and life is good. Is there someone in your life that has influenced you too, to at least beyond the path that you're on. Maybe it was your mom, but Thio have such a level head about yourself too to be so. I don't want to use the word inclusive but thio to be so level killed just thio. Is there someone in your life or is it just you learning on your own? Yeah, I'm happy to talk about a person, but then I'll give you the real answer.

So the person is definitely Scott Harrison. You know, he's I have hundreds of heroes, but is probably my biggest one is sort of charity, water love his book. I love his work and I love his quote, which is the goal is not to live forever but rather create something that will, I think that was really powerful. But I say the biggest thing that influences me the most is time. I think what I realized is I'm not gonna live for very long, but sick or anything. But I think there's anything I've learned from the people are older than me. Whether it's you or everyone else is, time is of the essence and especially people the bigger. That's the biggest mistake people make in their twenties is they think they're going to live forever. And I'm a big fan of this idea of skipping the line. What is the insight that you know that I could just implement right now? Like, and I'll give you an example That sounds crazy that would sound crazy to anyone is 20 for listening to this. I literally listen to podcasts about divorce lawyers and how to avoid divorce. Even if I'm not even in a relationship let alone married. That's funny. I'm always thinking about what does the future me look like? How do I research someone who's 10 years ahead? Okay, this guy went to Korea. Oh, why did he go to crew? Why don't you say in Canada, there's like Putin here. I don't understand what I'm always. I'm always an unpacking other people's lives that I'm optimizing the remaining life. Whether I have five minutes left to live or five years or 50 I'm always optimizing to make sure I'm always making the right decisions so that when I died, the legacy I want to leave behind us left. Speaking of legacy, Brendan, what is your overarching goal, whether it's for master talk or for your career. If it's a different sort of corporate world position, yeah, that's it for me. You know, it's fascinating how kind of my life goals have changed over time. It went from being a government employee to being a senior executive at a Fortune 500 to being a youtuber, which is which is weird. But I would say for me, the biggest thing is I want to finish with Dale. Carnegie started. You know, Dale Carnegie, For those who don't know, is the author of How to Win Friends and Influence People. He was an incredible thought leader. He's a prophetic and in the in the area of the communication, public speaking. But since you didn't have the mediums of technology that we have today like podcasting or being on a YouTube channel himself, he couldn't teach public speaking in the way it was supposed to be taught, which is like this where you actually see me speak or you see me in a YouTube video. So I have this opportunity just because of how young I am at the time advantage to democratize the entire ship so that the next genius of our society can learn communication a much younger age. Think next. Elon Musk. But who's 15 right now is probably a girl in Cambodia. Can you get access to me today? Learn communication When she's 25 or 30 and she's dominating and building billion dollar companies? She could move the human race forwards. That's the goal. It's a pretty good goal. I was I was probably trying to get five bucks. 24 e gotta pick up something I don't know. Is there anything Brendan? People don't understand about you that if they understood this, they would maybe appreciate the work that you're accomplishing. Yeah, I think people think I'm dice. I think that's so wrong. You know, people the really nice like man. Brennan's like the nicest guy Look at him like he's actually cut throat. Yeah, I'm pretty cutthroat. I'm pretty cut throat. But I think the big one that that people need to get is for me, giving back isn't about being some philanthropist, right? I hate people, call themselves philanthropists. It's just such a weird mentality. You like, become rich. Hard name to pronounce, So give things. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. you went through the trouble Productive, but last name like that? Yeah, So, yeah, every time, you know, because I'm sure that people are going to call me this in 10 years when I when I'm donating...

...more money, given master talk successful, they're going to say that is a philanthropist. He's such a goat giver. I'm just like guys like, Let's relax here. Like the point that we need to understand is like the only way we could become successful is because of the society that makes us successful. If I wasn't born in Canada, if my parents didn't immigrate to this country, if I didn't get the chance to have free education or pretty much free education Canada, you know that's about and and do and have all this opportunity, I would not be the person I am today. So the way that I see it is giving back is not something that I want to dio. It's something I need to do. It's a moral obligation for all of us as human beings, and it astounds me that most people don't see it that way. So I would say that's the big thing for me, that so you're not nice, but you're giver. I'm not nice, but I see giving as a responsibility rather than something I should dio. It's just part of who you are. You have a gratitude for all the things that you have. Absolutely. Yeah. Brendan, Is there an adversity that you have faced in your life that if, uh, not so much to dive into your life, but a new university that affects your work but for the encouragement of others who are also facing adversity? Yeah, of course. I mean, there's there's a bunch of mean there's a huge laundry list. I mean, dysfunctional family, alcoholic father, uh, challenges with master talk challenges, getting the job in consulting. There's a lot of adversity we could go through, but I would say the big one for me is rather recommendation. That I have for people is to ask more questions. You know, I think Tony Robbins puts it best. He says the quality of your life is solely determined by the quality of the questions. And I will add that you dare to ask yourself questions like, What are you pretending not to know if you had all the money in the world. How would you spend your time? And if you die tomorrow, what would your funeral speech say about you? These are the questions that lead to insights these air, the insights that lead to truth. And this is the truth that you need to follow toe live your life in the most authentic and real way before your life is over. So once you're really clear on those questions, regardless of the adversity, you'll realize that somebody else has been through the same situation as you because of trust me, there's many have still achieved what you wanted to achieve. And once you realize that by asking yourself a set of questions, I think that you could move forward regardless of the adversity. You're right, and there are a lot of people that face adversity. I mean, everyone faces adversity, your laundry list, my laundry list, everyone else's list and and it's good Thio to know that people go through difficulties and they get through them. They may face some other ones as well, but for people not to be too discouraged and say that they can't, you know, I heard someone said, You just got to try you gotta get up and you got to get going. And then the idea of this podcast of working, keeping going even though it's difficult help getting our team around you some some help is also a good idea. But knowing that, Ah, lot of people out there that have gone through the same universities. Brendan, is there anything else that we haven't touched upon that you might like to add about people in their work or some things you have experienced in your work? No, that was amazing is a great summary. But I think the biggest thing I would say is really focused on the team player aspect of job searching. And not only will it be more fun and entertaining, you'll be a lot of great friends, and you will achieve what you set out to achieve. Brendan, how can people get in contact with you know, master talk is is growing and doing very well. Is there some points of contact people could make with you? Yeah, absolutely. So So. YouTube is definitely the best place you could just type master talk in one word and you'll find me right there. And if you want to get in contact or anything like that. It's all on the YouTube channel.

One final question, young man. And that is, Why do you work? Mm, That's a good question, and it's something I need to reflect that. But if I would give you my immediate answer right now, it would probably be because work is about contributing to society in a powerful way that hopefully, if you have a powerful enough gift, can can change the very course of people's lives. And for me, that ends up being democratizing the world's information on communication. So So for me, I work because it's important because it serves other people and makes me wealthy in the process. Brendan Kumar Asami, business transformation consultant at IBM, founder of Master Talk and a young man making an impact on the world. I thank you for your time, and I appreciate the work that you dio Likewise, Thank you for listening to this episode of why we work with Brian V. Be sure to subscribe, follow and share with others so they too, can be encouraged in their work. E hope that you have yourself a productive yet joyful day in your work.

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