WhyWeWork BrianVee
WhyWeWork BrianVee

Episode 7 · 2 years ago

#7 Eric The Wandering Waiter

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Eric talks about his wandering through the fields of work as he comes to terms with some of his hindrances and begins to face reality at 50 years of age.

Welcome to why we work, with your host, Brian V, as he speaks to people like you from all over the world, as we together dive deeper into our motivations, struggles, joys, seemingly missteps, hopes, warnings and advice which will be an encouragement to us all to get up, get going and keep on working. Working's tough, but working is good. Now here's your host to why we work, Brian V. This is Brian B why we work, and I still have the great pleasure of speaking to Eric burial. Is that correct, sir? It is. Good Day, sir, good day, and your day is just beginning. From what I understand, you're only you're enough for about five minutes now, though. We thank you, Mak, you for accommodating the schedule, but you're not an easy guy to get a hold of, you you. I mean, we'll get into this and a little bit, but you you work late nights, right, is that? Yeah, that's fair to say. So, Eric, you have been you have a little idea of what this is about, about why we work. Can you tell us a little bit about you? I mean you and I know we known each other since, I think, two thousand and five yeah, but honestly we could probably say we don't know a lot about each other, even though we work together. We know you know, superficial sort of thing. What can you tell us about you, and especially in terms of work? Well, I'm a waiter. That's my joy. I mean I love working in restaurants. I've been a waiter and bartender for many years as well. I was at before I went to Korea. Well, what about when you in the in your we younger days and our younger days way back when. We'll get into what you're doing now, but when did Eric's journey begin? Well, my first job, I'd say they I was fifteen and it was as a pack boy in a supermarket. Where is it you're from? Getting No? Quebec, right next to Ottawa, got no. Yes, is that? They got no Uge, the Quebecumder, the the Quebec major junior team. What is that? The GATIN? Know, the get all of them. They got no Olympics. The Olympics. Okay, I thought it. I thought they had are an end. Well, this is where. This where the Casino Luck Limi is as well, because, you know, one can other. They keep talking about it's here in Ottawa. Well, in hall is where? Yeah, you're an Ottawa now, though, is it? No, I mean I'm in getting no row. You are audible. Okay. So yeah, so at fifteen, you why did you decide you wanted to pack some was it groceries or your packing groceries for the was is a packborn a grocery store? And why? Because, well, my mom wanted me to get a job and it was one of her friends that opened a supermarket. So they got me to work there and that didn't last very long. I've never been, I've never been a really big worker. That's it. Why did your mom want you to get a job? She was, she was always helping me, and she says, you know, you want your own money, you need to you don't get a job to buy your own things. That lasted maybe a week, week and a half, and then I still got everything I wanted for my mother, because I'm an only child. What. What? Why did it all? I I forgot totally that. I think I pack groceries at Ida back in the day. Why did it only last a week? I didn't really want I didn't really like it. I mean I have some of my friends have been working since they've been eleven and twelve years old me. My first job was at fifteen, last a few weeks and then I didn't work again until a few years later because I'm gonna I'm an only child and my parents are divorced. Therefore, they felt really bad because I always got everything I want. I never had to work. But then when I got to my early twenties and then my mom sit cut me off. Well, that made me mad because now I says I have to start working. I'm in my early twenties and I've never really worked in my life, but I have to work now. Is it was there? So in kind getting off? I don't want to get too personal, but in cutting off, did that mean you're out on your own? You had to find a job? You did? You have new bills to pay that you never had to pay before. What was the the awakening? That said, this is real ice. I had a had a fancy lifestyle, like many things, like guitars and many, many things, and spend a lot of money, and that's why my mom said I need to get a job, because she was sick of paying for all these things for me. She would buy me something, I would use it once or twice sell it, buying something else. So you should like that. Mine always buy and selling. Mom, will...

...you buy me this good because you won't give you the money, and then you guys sell it, then you get the money, exactly. And then she caught on to that and she did not like that I was doing that. So what was your what was your furst when you woke up to the idea of work? Thinking back now, can you can you think of I mean maybe the hindrance it gave you, maybe the downside that it gave you of not like your friends working at eleven and twelve and understanding maybe a greater importance? Can you appreciate it a little bit better now, like what do you see in hindsight from what what you were doing? And don't get me wrong, I'm not pointing at you. I melted my mom a few times too. Well, look at it, describer. Mean I'm forty nine now, I'm going to be fifty next year. I have no day job because, like the restaurant business is going down a lot. I have to find a new job. I have no pension fun. So in hindsight, I think I said, yeah, I mean it was all fun and Games. I mean I traveled the world from one thousand nine hundred and ninety six to two thousand and eight, on and off, and I never got a real job and I'm paying for it now. So it's I mean, it's good to want to travel and have fun, but future wise, believe me. I mean I have kids now and I know it no pension fun and it's not easy. Okay, I mean that that's a really honest assessment of what what happened and because I find with just few that I interviews I've done, it's hard to for people when they have a job like so, if I asked you, how's your waiting job, it's hard to say the full truth about jobs. You don't want to get in trouble. But I think that's a really good assessment of in a warning to people not to play around. Oh No, because you will pay for it. You will pay for it later. I mean, it's all fun and Games. Like I said, it was twenty five and I was working at the government. They offer me a full time job, very high salary, and as is no, no, I want to go see the world first, and from that day, I mean I was never able to put my foot down somewhere stable to have, like, you know, solid future. So yeah, I mean to have a good job and make good money in that. But, as I says, it's the future I don't have, and that's always when you have children. That's always not good. Yeah, and I like to be, you know, trying to find the sunny side of things. You're only forty nine. If right, you're only for forty nine, you have, from life's experiences, another a good thirty years of working ahead of you, if you really want it, a good fifty, seventy years of life ahead of you. So it's not all gloom and doom. You could find something if you wanted to. Would you not agree? Well, yes and no. I mean I know that I have many, many years left to work. I mean that's what I'm trying to find right now, is a solid career to they can have leak a little pension before I retire. Yeah, but there's not much hope because, I mean, there's not many companies for good jobs and want to hire a fifty year old person. Companies go for younger people because it's less training for them. The staff is going to give them me more years. So it's kind of hard you're like. For you, if I want to work in construction, while I go see a construction company and they see what, wait a minute, this guy's almost fifty and this kid here's twenty three. He's been working in construction for a few years, he's got his cars. Who are they going to hire? They always go from the younger people. The same thing, like in office buildings and that. So there's it's getting tougher and tougher to find a job. When I came back, when I came back from Korea in two thousand and eight, is when I should have really looked for a career, when I was still in my s and I still had, you know, time for government jobs, and that even the government. I've been trying to apply to the government. I get passed up many, many times. I'd have to see that's because of my age. If I had a business, Brian, I would do the same thing. It's not that I don't want to hire older people, it's just that a younger person is going to cost me less money. I can train him just once and have a maybe work twenty more years, which will make the business go up. But see what? For me, I've always thought, like you, know working in that it's all part of the game. It's just, you know, as if you have a good job. It's just you're just part of the game. That's all you do. You just contributing to the actual game. Because to me there's no amount of money that is worth being away from my family for so long just so I can say just I can bring the money back to me. It's we're all playing the game. So if I have to play the game and be away for my family and all that just to have bien more money, I rather make less meant to play the game. Well, at least at least you're not saying and not make any no, no, if you have to make some, you have to make something, because, I mean, I don't understand like some people they say, well, we'll live on the government checks and that. I don't want that. I had this PCU to the Canadian government help. I had that for four months and now it I you...

...know, I can't work going and off. I don't want to go back on the PCU. I want to try to form things my by myself. It kind of gives me that sense of accomplishment. Absolutely, yeah, but, like I said, I mean it's just, it's just, it's just, I just want to be back in the game. So Eric, on a on a side like what would you what would you prefer to do? Like just like, I think in one way, I don't think you are, but not to think too much of age. But in an ideal situation, what would you like to do? Would you, you know, like to get into government? What would be your ideal position? Now, just with the insight that you have all firefighter, but I can't, I mean I'm too old for that, you know. But firefighter has been the job. I had my opportunity when I was young, when I was twenty two. They came and got me from from college and I could have gotten there and I chose not to because I was a lot into the drug scene when I was younger. Yeah, I mean smoking a lot, and I just I just to do that instead, which was, in hindsight, will not a good idea. Is is the the military and option? Yes, same thing, tool and with my knees I can't. I mean the military. The good thing I'm compared to say the American military. Canadian military doesn't have an age limit. They have an age limit as long as you're able to finish your contract up until retirement age, which is, don't quote me ever, like fifty four fifty, no, maybe sixty four. Fifty four fifty is one of those ages. You're within the time frame. So as long as you can do your three to five years or whatever it is that the contract is, you're not to the American military is you need to be thirty nine right, even regular force, I think is I younger than that. So I've I look every once in a while and the military, the Canadian military, because they won't they'll find a position for you right. That's the good thing about the Kenney and that's a good thing about Canada. To you and I were having a conversation a moment ago thinking about what I ever go back. I have no problem personally with Canada. My dear wife, just with family situations and just her experience, prefers Korea, but I don't have a specific problem with Korea and I could work in any job if I was to be hired, and I have looked several times in the Canadian military. It's I think it's it's it's a form of the game that is willing to pay you as long as you know you don't have any. You mentioned your knees, or they real problems or just your personal o'w my knees hurt, like did you ever get them tested? Well, I see, I mean one. I mean I've I tore out of my mdl twenty years ago. Yes, so the fact that that's done and that's been repaired right there, that's enough to not be accepted because I tore my mdl. Okay, but I know it's like I said. I mean I wouldn't go into military right now because I said like I said me about being away to the family too, just to join this this gain, this ridiculous rat raise that we're in, to be away from my family and all that, it is not worth it for me. I mean, I'll go on my line of Credit and be the same thing. Yeah, and I don't mind, oh, I don't mind, you know, owing it, but to me it's not worth it. Like money, there's money is not everything, and too many people money is everything. The people will, so many people will sacrifice everything you got for money, but it's only paper. You can't take it with you can't do anything with you. I mean I I my mother has, she has a lot of money. I always tell her mom what's more important, money or family? To meet. Families more important than money. To her, money is very important, but I would say listen, if you're in trouble leader on in life, your money is not going to save you, your family will. Your family is going to help you, you know, and not your friends, not your family is going to help you. So if, if you join it, if just to fit, to fit into this planet, you go away, you separate from your wife and kids many, many months a year. What's the point? You miss out on the best things in life to have something that you can't take with you and you can't remember it's only money. You can't take it with you and you can't look at what you're going to do. Put on your wall and look at it. I mean it's likes to some people, and I know some people here. This is they'll get some job. Okay, they're going to go up, you're going to work in James Bay for a month or two, come back here for three four days, go back to work for three, four months and they'll do that for a few years and they see, well, I know it's so we make good money. I know you make good money, but you don't see your kids, you don't play around with your wife and your family and a lot. You don't get to know all that for money, at the end of the day, is it really worth it? Because, as they see, like, time is money. In our time is important. Our time on this planet is short as it is. MMM. So I think that and the important things in life, like I, like you, would say, I'm you'll quote like your g you believe...

...in religion, don't you? Yeah, well, there you go. It's the same thing as that, you know. So I say believe. You're like believing in your family is the same thing as for those who believe in jesent stuff like that. Like Jesus, did you work like a son of a bitch all the time? Now, he did. They didn't work like crazy people a time because they were there for law and family and togetherness, and that's what the world is lacking today. Yeah, I think. I think that's why the world is in this state, because people are going too much after the all money dollar. It's always about money. I don't get me wrong, I like money as well, but you know, their money is only paper. But now you're touching on something that is there is certainly a balance, and you probably may have met some Korean people where it actually you and I were talking about this as a business proposition a few months ago. Who Father's? The Korean fathers live in Korea and they send their families to Canada or another country. And I know of families who have sent their children for ten, twenty years and get to see their child a couple months of year out of the year, or maybe be not even that. For for me, I would never do such a thing right, you know, like yours, and you know what they're trying to do is get but for their reasons I would have to give it to them like so. For them, they think Korea is too difficult for their children, so they're trying to get them out of there. But there's no place for the father to work in Korea or in Canada because he doesn't speak the language and he doesn't have a job skill in Canada or would be too much for him. I know one in particular. It was just too much for him to transfer his Korean skills into Canadian skills and he would have lost before he would have gained. So he stayed here while his for daughters lived in Canada and they still live there and that was when I first met you. They were just leaving then and they're still and they're still there. So I see there is a balance and there's a something that I wouldn't do. But I also have friends who work on oil rigs right or work out and the oil field or what you mentioned up north. So you're talking about up to an oil to. Well, not like James Bay. That's whether they all the hydro dams are like, you know, the big James Bay, Hudson's Bay and James there. Yeah, well, you're for Quebecca. Mean that's where they say all everybody to work up there for the hydro and the hydro lines and stuff like that. So they work on that like. Well, I know many people who work on hydro lines as well, the install the lines, that they get paid really well. But that's another thing. I mean they're gone for weeks and months on end from their family just to go do this job. So when you say it's always about it's, like I said, it's always about money every times, about if you can't do the thing you'd really like, your dream job. Like I would like to be a fighter pilot, but I get sick on elevators. So I don't think I could be a really good fighter pilot, or at least a pilot with no bombs on it. If you couldn't be a firefighter, what would you like to do it? Because you mentioned that you're doing something in it. It is not as stable as you want it to be. What would you like to do? What would you like to reach out and try? I'd have to say, just like my good buddy and office space. Do Nothing. I think I watch that the other just know that I would what I would like to do, Brian. Seriously, I would like to have money so I wouldn't have to work, and but I would work every day, but I would just go volunteer. That's all I would do if I had if I had money, that's what I go. That's what I do. I'd go work in volunteer, give my time to all sorts of organizations in that. But see, we have to earn money so we can pay for everything. If I had money to pay for everything, I would give me time to people who need it and see the and that's the thing. I think that's the way the world should more look at it, and in this way we'd be lesson shit, because everybody would help each other. I mean, like I said, me like good. Well, right now I wouldn't go working in a senior's home because of this covid nineteen thing. I see his home have it. You have it a lot, but you know, I mean a couple all these week I'd go work in a soup kitchen. You don't go go serve, you know, go serve food for the people. You know. I'd I go help with the with some organizations here. They have a people in wheelchair. I go give the give them all good help. Have you ever tried? Have you ever tried Eric to go to a hospital to work as like an orderly or any of those types of positions? Those, those are great places. Like you can see the people who are in real need and they appreciate people who are helpful. We'll recilate. Like say, I was telling my wife this last week. Is, yeah, I know their jobs in the hospital fields right now. Yeah, and I know the P well, but that's where all the covid nighteen things are in the hospitals. In that so I mean I says, yes, I don't mind helping out,...

...but I'm not ready to risk my life in my family's life just to make money. HMM. So if I go work in hospital right now and I'd get covid and bring it home, I endanger my family just so just for the Almighty dollar, and to me that's not worth it. Yeah, and I don't disagree with you, but I went to a restaurant today and in some way or from they're putting themselves and I guess you, as a waiter, putting yourself at risk. Yeah, we were like the face leg, the big plastic face guards. Yeah, to wear those in their restaurants. Yeah, and and I don't I don't know how it is in Korea, but in Canada there's nothing on the tables, nothing at all. So when you come, we bring you everything. You're napping, your will bring you every thing. So customers don't touch anything and they're separated as well. There's a distance between each table as well. So I don't know how it is in Korea. I don't know if I remember what the restaurants are. You going there and all the little tables like one foot from the floor and everybody's sitting together. And I was, I was at once tonight. Yeah, smoking in restaurants and you have their dogs in the restaurant and hey, it's an experience now, but there is no docts today. Hey Smoke. There is no dog and no smoking today. They got like dogs are well adored here in Korea now, I know, I know, and they eat the freaking things. Many they got there. It's there. They're changing their perspective on the dog. It's become a new idol. Do you remember running the first dog and I bought where? You're there when I bought that dog, I think I was. Yes, I vaguely remember, but I do remember. You and I were leabers here. Were yeah, next door neighbors. Yeah, he lived for one week and then he died because he was a street dog. He was a eating dog. You were selling this dog to eat it. But you know what, Brian, I'll always remember the first night that I met you. We went to kiss, kiss the kiss and kiss the pub. Oh, no, with I might have to Sarah, I might have to edit this out. Okay, all what I but I was just a good night my we had a good time. Yeah, anyways, and just said what I was saying that project. It was saying to you like last month, you know, working for the English camp thing. Yes, to me it's because, Brian, I see this, if you do this two people and it's done right, it's between fifty and seventy five thousand dollars each for three months work. You got nine months off of the year. That's what I want to do. To me like that is more working, because I'd have time in the year to do what I'd want to do. Because at the price that they you can do and means you're only open for you only open for ten weeks in this some we only got two camps of tow three weeks each. So you're only there for about eight weeks, plus two weeks prepare preparation before and a week after maybe. So if you make fifty or seventy five grand a year nue salary, you make that in three months. You don't have to work for the rest of the year. Well, that's why would that's why, when you were telling me what you were thinking, are you'd like to maybe come back to Canada. All dependent work in that you want to get out of teaching. I says this is a good opportunity because this is not only teaching. This you're playing with the kids. You're their camp counselor for the summer for two different camps and then you go home and you have a lot of money in your pocket for the whole winter. So I think its seasonal jobs where you do that for three months. The rest is off. So October to May you do nothing besides just you can prepare a few hours for the next year's camp, but that's it. I've already even I already have a place here and I think that they're the ones that to hear the cleaning in the food and everything. We just you know, they and we can have up to two hundred kids at that camp if we'd want. They have the lakes and they have everything. So that's why I want to do that. Brian, it was just because it's something that's fun. I liked. I like teaching and that that was fun. HMM. I love and I'd love being a camp counsel because do things. They go kayaking with the kids and you'll playoffs. I loved, I love doing that and the money would be good. So to me I don't see very many negative points. That's why I burned up to you, because it's absolutely a good thing and I've heard of people doing it and my dear wife has had that. I mentioned that to you and our in our emails. My dear wife has that thought of doing something like that. We're just we're just not in a position to do anything like that, or I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. But if someone listens to this and they want to invent do that adventure with you, how could someone contact you, Eric? How would how would do? Do like instagram or obviously do facebook, because that's how I got you. But yeah, I've got some many Spook, I've got the I've got msnwich. The thing is that Brian has to do this. I mean I'd want another person that's with me, that I know well. I mean that that I die. I trust interest. I mean even know Bryan. We didn't really know each other that for some reason. I don't know why, but I trust you. I didn't even leave my life in your hands. That seriously, I mean, and we don't really know. We know each other, but not that much. But from what I've got it, from what I've picked up from you over the years and what you were talking about, things you went through and how you came out at the end, I just have more trust. I mean even...

...my friend Mike, that was over age still my friend. I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that with any of my friends I had over there. You're the only one I would have done this with because I don't know I trust you well, you never know that the I appreciate that immensely. Are Can I do like you and as I don't think we said it during the recording, but you you were at my wedding. You one of the very few. There's another one actually, Chelsea. She will be interviewed on Friday. I don't remember. There's a few way Gukins, as we say, foreigners, at our wedding just because the lack of them. But you were there front and center and I truly appreciate that. My dear wife appreciates that and you never know, that offer may become of use for some on in some unknown time, but honestly, every yeah, it's a good idea, I think. anyways bright. I think, no matter what, it would not be before two thousand and twenty three, with everything is going on right now. It would not be before two thousand and twenty three. And he sort of camping camp is is booted to the curb. I think for the next couple of years well, see that we have a trailer. We went camping and it's different this. It's like, you know, like the many things that they can down that's not open. You have to you this distancing. There's many some slots are not even open. Yeah, so, I mean it's not going to be the same. So that's why I'm thinking maybe two thousand and twenty three, two thousand and twenty four, but it's something that it's so I think that if I could do that, why I'd liked it. I'd like it because I would enjoy it, I think. I think it would be fun. So are city would go ahead? Yeah, it would give Oh, I think it's like I said, it would just give me time to do like the other things I'd want, like, you know, volunteer and stuff like that, because I'd be able to do so what is it dot with my height, with your family? Yes, yeah, what is it that you do? You're watering. So is this a pub? I don't know if you call it a pub or bar, or is it a restaurant? It's it's a restaurant. Mean it's four star restaurant. You know, I think I bring to the food and something that I used to be a bartender as well. Yeah, but now I'm looking for government jobs or, you know, like different options, and I hope, I hope, I mean all duel. I was trying to get in with the the the waitering position, but then you switch to the government job. So one knowing. I want to know what you do on a regular basis. But also if you're switching gears so quickly, how active are you with trying to find the job that you're you're hoping for, the government job? I mean you're bilingual to so you have like you can click those boxes that I can't click. Right. Yeah, so, I mean that's a great asset, regardless of your age, especially nowadays. I. So are you active? I mean I always say like be full time getting a job. You know, if you don't have the job you want, be full time trying to find it, you know, full time working towards it. Like when you're up, you have free time, you're revising your resume, you're looking online, you're going, you're knocking on these places. I mean, Eric, you got jobs out here and that's not easy. It wasn't easy. Right, you got job. So what are you active and trying to find a job? Are you really actor. Yeah, I am, like you mean, I guys are waiter. I mean it's Nice job and all that, but I want the government because, as I said, like waiter does not have a pension fun. Yeah, do you the government? I will have a pension fund. That's a thing, and thing like having six days and holidays and, you know, like being a waiter net, like I get my two weeks location off and I fintique time off. Eat isn't paid. If my see, if my kids are sick, it's harder for me to stay at home. See If, if I work for the government, of my kids are sick, I could stay home with them and still get paid for my work as a waiter. I'm staying home and I will not get paid. You understand? So for the last four months, you mentioned about not working or you got the I'm not familiar, PCP. Was it core? Yeah, we were in a quarantine. We got the PCU, which is the two thoms a month. So how active were you during that time in trying to actively seek out a job by going to websites and doing whatever possible? Were you were you diligently doing it, or you're just like I can still just do this other job for now. How active was not. I didn't really I didn't really search because but one, I mean like the country is on hold right now. No company is hiring, everybody actually lates. Now this and I'm sorry to interrupt, but I listened to a guy named you should listen to him, Gary V, and I have a different, I think, view from him, but he's like this is if there was ever a time for you to switch gears in life, if there was ever a time for you to flip the boat over, flip the table over and do something different, it's because the world seems to be on hold, like Korea was on hold before, Canada was on hold. And the thing is, if you're not like, okay, do you know what, for lack of better terms, like screw them, whoever they are, and I'm gonna I'm going to get my resume ready, I'm going to search these...

...sites, I'm going to email them, I'm going to call them, I'm going to walk up to these people's door and I'm going to say, listen, sir, in the back of your mind, just say I don't care about who's making what money and what game. This is and Almighty dollar and all this. I want a job for the next twenty years and, sir, I'm the man, or, ma'am, I'm the man to have this job. This is the time to do it right, because a lot of people, a lot of people, are sitting back on their there ares and saying, well, you know, this is just the time and whenever know, no way. I'm taking every advantage of this opportunity, and I'm not just saying me, but lots of people are. I finished, and I don't want to say what I do. But the thing is, Eric, you are a man that I know you're very smart, but you and I would stay up late at nights and have a bottle of wine and talk the talk, the talk, and you're smart individual and I know you do what you do for whatever reasons you do it, but also you have the ability to get the job that you know that you need to help support your family. So what's holding you back from switching the gear to be like you said, you talk to your wife about it, so obviously that's a conversation that you guys are having at the table right yeah, so what's what's stopping you? I heard you so many times say, oh the mighty dollar I know all that stuff. I understand all that. But do you know what? We got to work where people? We got to work. We have kids, we have a wife that we have to stay that be please. We have, you know, things we want to do and all this, and you don't. You already learned when you were a kid that you can't just live off your Mama's stuff and then you can't live off the government stuff. And so when is it you're going to say, you know what, I'm going to be active. I'm a waiter. You know I don't have to take my work home with me. You know, it might be I might be tired, but I got the morning. I can get up, I can look at this, I can look at this, I can reply to this, I can get on Linkedin, I can get on social media, I can get and then what's holding you back from doing that, rather than say, you know, I'm fifty, my knee hurts and and I don't want to just chase the mighty dollar, but at the same time you want the mighty dollar because you know time is running out. What's was holding you back? Hold on there, I'm sending you the little texture that telling you what's called you telling me to shut up. Where's my phone? Oh, here's my phone. I don't know where my phone is. Is that your children or your daughter? Your Wife? Well, it's the kid. Is it's a she's my daughter. She's watching TV in the living room. That was a great answer, Eric that I can't repeat that right, I can't. You know that's why you want. You sent it to me. But I get it. I get that, I get I experience that. Oh, yeah, I know, I that's what I was telling you earlier, because we talked and about the past and that, and I know where you came from. All you understand. Yeah, and I know where I have to go. And it's just, I mean what I do is not bad, but it's just say, it's kind of a you become like a procrastinator. Everything slows down and is you put everything off and off and off, and to me, I mean it's, you know, it's it's a big problem I find. Yeah, you know, I'm thinking this is you know, it's not that bad. I mean it's not like it's not like this is going to cull me. No, it's just that it's slowing down, it's it's key. It's holding me back. So what but what is it? So why? Whatever it is that you do, whatever it is that's holding you back? Why is it holding it? If you don't mind me ask me, like what it? What are you afraid to do? What it? Why? Like, I love work, I mean I love you know, work is top. Don't get me wrong, right, work is you work? Last night it was tough. I did work. Today it's tough. Whatever it is, it has difficult to in it. But what is it that's I mean you said it's several times, which, honestly, I didn't buy it for a minute. I I nodded and I smiled and, okay, the mighty dollar. I heard people say stuff like that, but it's the fact of life, right. You could end life and say I'm done with it, but I think you can look across your table or and wherever your kids are and look at your wife and say no, I have too much of responsibility on my shoulders to do that. Therefore, when, when are you going to say it's enough to to pick that load up? And I'm all for equal rights and women's rights and I'm not saying you have to carry your wife's load or any of that stuff, but when are you going to say, listen, this is time that I'm going to be active and not make an excuse, because if I'm not asking you how much time you put into it in the last four months and you're like that means you're not willing to carry the load, you're not willing to step up. And for some reason I don't know, I worked with a guy recently,...

...in the last couple of years in Canada and he was fifty nine at the time and his mother had money and he always talked about his mother having money and he always joked about when his mom dies he's going to get the money. And I'm not saying that's what you're waiting for, but he waited. He's waiting for but he loves his MOM. He's waiting for the time that like this is this is going to be his payday when finally, okay, I'm going to get I don't want my mom to die, but I also don't want her to spend it all before she dies. But that so he was like I'll just drift through life, and he was. He's now sixty one and he's getting his pension and it was just he gets like, I don't know whatever the pension is eight hundred bucks a month, right. You think about that. In ten years, that pension that you get is like eight hundred. And he was able to get two pensions and, as he said, it was going to happen, and it does happen. One pension pays for the tax of the other, something like that. It's not enough. So I know what's hold you back. What sound? This guy sounds like me, man, that's that's me. Well, I'm not gonna introduce you to because no, no, but I mean it. This guy sounds like me. It is it? What you're what you're just saying with this guy said, that's me. I'm the exact same way, then. I'm waiting for that day as well. yessing, you're gonna yell at me and say, how dare you? I'm just saying it. How it's true. It is true me, you like you know you, you know you cross the tea perfectly there, and I'm waiting for that day as well. It's because me and my mother, we've always had you, always had issues and arguments over the years, always about money. It's always about money. We have we've never had a good relationship. I mean we have like a fucked up relationship with me. It's horrible relationship we have and it's it's even the years I didn't speak to my mother. I remember this like ninety six and I was I was in London and we can speak. Me had spoken for years, and people would ask what about you? More I says, listen, I'd rather have my mother, even if I don't speak to her, and to have her money. So you know, there is a part of me that I like you all these other guys, I prefer. I'd want my mother there because she is my mother in that. But then again, there's another big part of me. It says, well, once we're separated, it's going to be good to be able to find peace both of us, her her way and me my way. And it's the money is just, you know, it's just a bonus. But sometimes, you know, I feel like just telling you to keep your money and go away. I understand that. Eric, you know what I said this. I mean, I'm going to hopefully say this till the day I die. In you meant I didn't. I don't think I realized, but you probably told me years ago that your parents were divorced. My parents were divorced and I never lived with my dad. Never, not that I could remember, and from the stories I was told they were divorced around the time I was in my mom's belly. My Dad was probably around for a little bit and then they just had enough each other and then they were done. I could and I did have resentment towards my mum for many, many years. I could, I could. I can say I remember probably two thousand and nine when you asked me if I was religious. I became Christian, but this is not a religious sort of speel. Is the first time I remember telling my mom I love her. That's pretty that's pretty crazy if you think that's only eleven years ago and I'm forty three. That means I held resentment towards my mom most of my knowing life. I think when I was a little kid I didn't know any different and I didn't have any problems with my mom. To be honest. I took, you know, one, two, three, I'm to baby. I'm like yeah, whatever, four or five, six, but then I, you know, just start seeing some things and I didn't like some things that I saw and then I became rebellious and then we didn't have a good relationship and then I got chipped off and I came back home and I got chipped off again and kicked out again and kicked out again, and then I just kind of hate it. My mom right, but it wasn't like now, looking hindsight, like having kids, life stuff, and can you imagine being a single mom trying to work? I mean, you know you can pitch your mom and I don't know your mom, so maybe her stories different, but my mom growing up in the S, you know, being an adult in the s alone in trying to find her way and after having to been divorced, she had a pretty tough life. So after me saying, you know, what I'm saying that you should look at is forgiveness right for whatever wouldever woever harm or wrong that she did. And I say you can't know forgiveness unless you've been forgiven right that that's the major thing.

If you've not been forgiven, you can't forgive someone else. But if you can look at for giving your mom, like Eric, my mom died in February of cancer and it came pretty suddenly. There was a year or whatever she was battling all this stuff. But I am so unbelievably grateful that I reconciled with my mom over the last few years and every time we talked to each other it's I love you and we're we didn't see each other much and even when I was in Canada we didn't see each other lot. She had her own life and that's where I kind of disagreed with your idea about the mighty dollar, because my aunt pinned my mum. Well, my mom was a hard worker. She worked two or three jobs all her life, but that's where my mom socialized. And I bet you, if you think about your work at the waitering you probably socialize well there, you kind of it's like a maybe I'd all the hate it right. I worked in bars and that's like where you socialize, whether it's with the customers or with, you know, the other wait staff or chefs or it's just a great place for and that's where my mom thrived. She didn't thrive when she was by herself. That's where she she did the most harm to herself, her most harm to me. Right, not intentionally, but it just indirectly harmed me in some way. But Eric, it's your mom and I know in all of in all of her dreams, she never planned to hurt you or to spite you or to make whatever happened in your life the way happen. But it but it happened. But then what I do is I look at my own self, I look at how badly I fail, without the fault of my mother, and say, well, wow, I'm pretty bad. I could understand how her faults are bad. I would hope someone would forgive me. So I certainly need to forgive her or anyone else that does me harm. So think of forgiveness, because I mean that's just one way of not dis waiting for her as the final ticket, but also enjoying the time that you have, because my mom was only sixty six and she's gone right and you know my I mentioned to you at the beginning with you, I think you already knew, is my wife, sister, thirty seven dead. Grandmother died last week, Ninety one, and you said it. We don't know how much time we have. But you don't want to. You know, want unforgiveness. You don't know. You don't want them forgives, even if you're if it's just you reaching out and saying mom, if it was me, I be I'm an idiot. I am an idiot. I am I fall short of any sort of standard. So I don't know why I hold you to a higher standard than I can reach myself, because it's if I can't read that reaches stander. Why would I hold someone else up there? I failingly do it to my children, like, why didn't you do your homework, meanwhile I'm not doing my homework, or to my dear wife, why didn't you do this when I'm not doing that? We do it all the time. So, Eric, I forgiveness. I heard it once said it's like forgiveness is the key to marriage. Like you're married, you know. If we don't forgive each other, we're doomed right and and for a mom if you don't forgive your mum, it's it's you don't want her, you don't want to you don't want the last thoughts, the last words, her last breath to be. I have a son who resents me. She No mother wants that. Oh, we do speaking. Everything is, you know, is, it's okay, but it's just just like it's like a toxic relationship on mine. You know, it's well, it's true. Is I mean I find that I when she will not want to walk around or you know, all walk on eggs, shells, and I put on a different mask. I did that too. I did that with my mom. That's how exactly I sorry, that's exactly how I explain my mom, and any relative of mine that's listening knows that if you walk by my mom, you're walking on eggshells because you're going to something's gonna Happen. Yeah, well, I say you like. My mom was a psychologist and I always says it's like it's like that staying there and order the cobbler, put the curtiff, the shoe in there on the callbers wrong foot or something like that. MMM, you know that ex well, there you go. I mean she was, she was one of the best psychologists around here, no problem. But when she got out of work and around her her own child and her grandkids and her family and friends, I says, what the fuck are you doing? That's not you. You can't be a psychologist, man, you cannot be that fucking stupid and be a psychologist. And the word is like, you know, that's a pretty that's a French word, is it not? That stupid? Yeah, well, so, I mean I don't know, and I told it is to her face once and she I guess she didn't like that when I told her to be I think seen in English.

They like the shoes on the wrong foot. Or how do you yeah, yeah, the shoes on the wrong foot. But yeah, something we say. I started to do with a cobbler as well. Yeah, I don't don't turn the tables on me or I don't know. Anyways, don't be a hypocrite. Yeah, I told her want this is. You're an excellent at your job. I have no doubt about that, because she knows. She's a psychologist with the police and everything. But it says, but when you're outside of your work, you're not. And that's where we'll have a problem, because me, I'm more family oriented and she's more money oriented. See, to me, like you know, money is we just need money to pay for this. But money is not. Is Not important. It's not important like family, because family will be there always, money will not. I agree to an extent. I agree to an extend that money, I mean people always miss quote, the quote that says money is the root of all evils, but that's not the quote. The quote is the love of money is the root of all evils. So that's what trips us up, and so we need it. In the end, the family would be there, but you know what, that family is gonna have to eat lunch. So money is going to be there generate to the very end. We just we just buried too family members in the last two weeks. And you know what was needed. And do you know what's actually you know what lasts longer than family money, because we're still dealing with money matters right now, as of today. Course, right, with course, but but you can be like the richest man in the world. When you die, are they're going to stuff your coffin full of money? No, you're still gone. Your money is here and your money is going to keep causing problems in going on. You're dead, would your money keeps going? So when you say, like why we work? Well, we work because we have to. We were because that's the game on this last we're all puppets in the same sick play and we have to work in order for the people ahead of us to get ahead. But the human being, I don't think the human being was made. I have a question for hours a week. What we were made to work for? You hours, we're made you know, like like so, should be working the lands. We should be working like the Indians used to work. You know, you work for each other, we help each other out. That life would be so much more fun, so much better for everybody. I think we do. I think we do. I think that happens in all societies. It just it doesn't look the same always. Because ink, I can go to a farm land and people are trading apples or whatever for caring. Course it's happening. Right. The planet should be like that, I mean, but you know, we've sweet this. The planet has surrendered to has surrendered this this fault, this false God. There this money, which is a false God really, because money seems to be the God on this planet. Everybody wants money, everybody craves it, everybody wants it, praise for it something. It's like a God. It's a false God and I think that it's I don't ever said we were. We work because we have to have a question. I have a question for Eric, if you don't mind me asking. Do you think, when you're a younger, and I'm not a psychologist, a psychiatrist, do you think that your mum traded off relationship for money and then in that sense, you feel that she went the wrong route rate from the beginning and you were longing for that relationship and she never gave it. That's why she well, money was always important. Look at this way. I'll give you like one one scenario here. It was my third year of high school. It was a it was our first music concert and all the kids, all everybody had their parents there and I wanted my mom to come more than anything because my dad, when they were divorces, have been too so I didn't see my father very much and my mother she chose to go to her sports club tennis tournament instead of coming to see me at my concert. So you know, it's always was always about money or social things. That was more important, and that's I don't know. I don't know if that's where I got pushed off from wanting to work. I don't know if that's where I pushed I pushed on like that message I sink. I don't know if that's where I pushed off to go in that direction because of that. But it's the same thing. Like like they it's the same as you. Like when my parents would divorced when I was too so I never lived I never really remembered him. With my dad, I was supposed to see him once every you know, every two weekends, but sometimes he wouldn't show up because he was playing golf. So I was pushed aside. It was always left. You know, I was left on the side, raised by my mother and my mother had two jobs, one day and one night, so I had a babysitter until I was fifteen. She didn't trust me because the first time she left me alone. Says no alcohol, no friends. where I do. I had friends and had alcohol. So I always had a babysitter. I didn't really see my mother very often. I can count on my hands a number of times we traveled in my life. So we never really had a relationship. Yeah, because she wasn't there in my father will he even though we get...

...along super well together. We speak every day and my mom says I should be mad at him because he pushed me aside when I was young. It's more at her and it was always about a lot. A lot was about money as well, like when I got into my old years, like you know, on my late teens and early twenties, it was always about money and that US so much tension. So this thing why we work. We work, we work for this money. That causes tension to so me my what was what was the tension with the money? Was it that you wanted more from her and she didn't want to give it, or she was just trying to tell you it's important to work? No, no, the first thing I wanted more from her and I had to replace this. And I remember when I was seventeen, I was living on my own and she wouldn't lend me the car, the car one night and I had to go meet my friends in that so I moved out and I moved in with my dad. So I changed schools and everything, and when I did that, it was my first last four months before the end high school. By doing that, I change school. Therefore I never got my high school diploma, which I still don't. I got a college degree, but no high school diploma, and that's, you know, because I lost all my friends. If I would have stayed with my mom, I would have graduated, probably went to university, you know, had a steady or more fast career, but no, I went the other way. And then that's what I jumped into. That text I sent you and I was there with my dad. Man, I was hog free. I didn't have to work. Give me twenty bucks every morning. Says here, you know when you need some cast some gas today. So why would I work? Brian, I mean I was twice, I was nineteen years old. He would give me twenty dollars a day. Yeah, and I worked at the Ski Hill anyways. I still I still work part time, and he gave me money every single day, evening, on the weekends. So why would I work? Do you want to make it right with your mom? It is Yo, yeah, I love to it. I mean it's quite okay, but you know, there's still that lot of tension in the yeah, but with, as I said about without the forgiveness, it's never okay because you guys never really got to the depth of the issue. It's just kind of like you're okay today with walking on these egg shells. They seem good today, right. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's not like you didn't dig under the egg shells to get to the Goopuiti goop that's in the bottom. It's just your your rate, tippity towing along and just doing your you know what. Other common greetings and stuff like that. Hey, well, yeah, how's things going? Yeah, yeah, I was true, basically like so, so when I see my mother, it's like I become this fake person, you know, I'll give her a smile on all that, but at the end I think that the problem that we have it cannot be fixed. It can't be fixed. The only thing that has to do it has to be money. Like I mean she's helped she's helped me and my wife out, and I mean I owe about thirty five grand, I would say. Now we're making payments. She doesn't need the money and she just wants me to pay it, you know. So it's kind of out of principle. Really, HMM. Right now she knows what this thing I told us is. Listen, to stop for a couple of years to get back on my feet. Shit my three weeks later I go buy a brand new truck. I saw your brand new truck. I wasn't going to bring up any brander truck, but that's a nice truck you got. Yes, it is about a two thousand and nineteen. It wasn't supposed to go like that. It's what I don't know, Bing, bing, Bang, I don't know. I woke up and there it was. This is not like a small truck either. This is a fullblown truck. Well, see, a thing is that because we had we had we had a Santa Fe I v six and we have a hybrid trailer. Now the Santa Fe was enough to pull the the trailer, but it was just borderline. So I told my wife, was his listening? We need a truck. So I was. I was allowed. I was allowed to go spend Sevenzeros for a truck. I who? Who allowed that? Well, MOM, my wife's they all seven because we were going to sell the other truck. It was the two thousand and twelve. was paid for. We sell them for a very good prices. It's seven man, okay. So I started looking and I go to Mombler for the dealership, and my friend is a sales manager there, and look at this. They got big shiny trucks there. Who would have imagined that? Well, I'm sorry, we're seeing this sus. He's so he says, well, there's a two thousand and ten. You know it would cost me to he says he will, cause I'll give it you for ten seven taxes in. I says that's good. So I went to the bank, got the money, gave him ten seven cash and left with the truck. But he was rotten underneath. And usually when you buy use truck from a dealership, it says is you're stuck with it. HMM. So I went to see him two days later. I say, listen, it's run. It's completely finished. I went there at their body shop and will be for five hundred to fix it. I says, you know, what can I do is as well, you know, when our game we don't take him back, and that so he, because he was my friend, he took it back. I looked at what else he had. He didn't have any. So I says, okay, I'll take that one there and it ended up with thirtyzero parents, but a nice friend. So yeah, so there I me. You know, I see, it wasn't supposed to be like that because,...

...well, it's good and it does the job. But, like I said, now did this other problem mention you about this money thing? Yeah, we have that now and that, see, that's hidden. That can't come out because if that comes out there is a pick, pick a pig efficat. Yeah, it's so let's let's listen, let's let's hope that your mum watches this. I don't know, it's not going to happen, but I would hope so. Well, what would your what would you like to say to your mom, because, I mean, look at you say your dad was always doing what? Golf? If someone's always golfing, that means they probably have a pretty decent job generally. Not In yeah, in Canada, maybe not. I mean golf is not that expensive, but Korea's very expensive. But your dad would probably had a middle called middle class job at least to be golfing all the time and to give you money for no good reason. And then for your mom to, as you said, have the money that she has and going to tennis court things with her friends, and so she's probably middle class. If you can look at your parents work ethic, not their parenting abilities, could you at least give them the credit that they were actually pretty good workers? Oh, I know, I have to see. I have to say my mom was excellent worker and my father as well. He worked for INTAG INSURANCE FOR THIRTY THREE YEARS. There's good workers, both of them. So and same thing like my wife is very good work as well. She working been eleven. Me, I'm not a good worker. I've been fucking around since I've been eleven, basically. So I do very much. But your sad. Like your wife must be very patient, as she's in there making maybe some break. Oh, yeah, she's. She's patient with me. Hello. So, if you Korea, hello, nice to virtually meet you. You must be a very patient woman, I think. Yes, I am. I have in mind job, having my life. So do we? Do we have some hope for Eric? Yes, of course, good, and I think so. So we're going to get him and his mom together one day and have a good heart to heart. You think that's possible? Well, he does time, I think then, pop, you can't run, you can't. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. And their boats, tuber. I think that I'm getting there and they're like, it's we're the same the the same one, and the same birds in that feather flock together. YEA, so I'm calming the game. It's kinds yeah, you're in between, the mediator between it, between both of us, because well, when my mom comes, I mean I have a tendency to pick out her like to take my night and I kind of pick out her and understand, because you asked me. You said, what would I say to my mom? Yes, well, what would I say to were? Exactly would be, mom, I love you, but I hate your fucking guts at the same time. It's it's just like that. I love you, but I ut you. You better be in the middle of that conversation, you see. So, I mean, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have that conversation with my mom because I don't know, like. Do you think? Yeah, we've had conversations before in the past, but do you know like? You know, like do you know anybody that's you know, like the people? Some people have a lot of money. They're different noses up there and they think you're better than everybody. You know people like that, rich people that are never wrong and it has to be like their own way to get they're in the restaurant, they'll complain because their fork is crooked and he and stuff like that. Yeah, Ain't know people. I'm well, I'm guilty of thinking I'm I was right too. So I mean it the richest in the poorest of people. I have all of those qualities. When I start to look at people and their problems. This is why I really love the idea of why we work, because I could see myself in any position, doing any of these jobs and having empathy, sympathy, compassion and and just a love for what they do and the difficulties they go through. So, to answer your question, yeah, maybe your mom has all of those horrible things as an example, but I know I I have those horrible things and if I was your mom right, I would probably be the same. I wouldn't probably be. I would be the exact same way because I grew up in her shoes, her proverbial shoes, to go through what she went through, what she went through before she had you. was she went through to be with the husband that she was married to. And I don't know, but I know marriage. Ask You and your wife. Is Marriage Easy? My marriage is not easy and we fight easy. Whenever are you well, then you guys, whoever are you, you got it made. So I do. We do, and if I'm...

...in someone else's shoes, I would do the same thing. So what I'm learning? What I'm learning is not putting it past that if I think that I'm better than the other person because they act the other way it what if I feel like I'm better than that other person because they act a certain way, then I'm always going to I'm always going to feel better about myself. I'm going to justify my own shortcomings, for the faults in in the wrong things that they do to me or that they do in general, and then I'm going to feel better by saying, yeah, they're never going to do it. I'm going to say, yeah, I love you, but Fu well, that's not real love. That's not a real love. Right. What I would do is think back, like what your mom went through, what your mom tried to do, and you know what, what your mum supported you through for many years and she still supports you at fifty. She just bought you a new truck indirectly. So she does love you, but she's having her own difficulty. Maybe her parents were unkind to her or you know right, but it just like just try to say, Mum, I don't have much time left and I don't want to say few I want to say mom, I love you, and please forgive me, because I've been, I've been something not very nice to you my whole life. And do you know what, Eric, this is what I did with my mum. My mom got in her way, my mom did what she did and any time I knew my mum was doing what she did, and I how can I say it without disrespecting my mum, if I knew I had an advantage over my mum, I would take that opportunity like that, anytime that I knew, and I think you know what I'm talking about, there are times on eggshells when you can walk on those egg shells and you knew not to mess around because you definitely weren't going to get what you wanted. But if there was a particular time that you knew if you danced on those eggshells just right, because the moon was right, the sun was up, this was going, this was there, you could get exactly what you wanted if you ask the Nice Way and it was the right time. And I always knew how to play my mum. She knew she is. She knew she was being played though, too, because she longed for that moment that we could have that bond. But because everything was so screwed up, that's the only way we could do it and it wasn't into. Do you know what, Eric, I didn't kiss my mum. I didn't kiss my mom until she was dying on her death bed. I don't remember kissing my mom except, as I said, when I was a kid, my mom, you know, give me kiss or something like that. I I I didn't kiss my mom until she was like the last couple weeks I was with her. Then I start kissing her and saying, mom, I love you, mom, I love you, and don't let that be you. I know what I know. It's such a weird, toxic relationship. I mean, if you'd say, like it's only Tisic, only toxic because you're in it. You did. If you'd ask me, I'd give me one word to describe my your mother. No, give me one word to describe you. ME. Yeah, not your mother. She's not here to defend herself. ASSHOLE. Okay, then work with that. Say, MOM, I've been an ass please forget told him. It's always listen. I mean, I'm a piece of but you just I'm an ass. F You PROB see you go mean like I mean. I am. I mean, I am. I'm an asshole. I've been I've been a piece of shit. I mean all these things that had happened to my mom, well, the majority of them are because of me, because for some reason I've always had this this thing in the back of my head that, well, when I was growing up, I mean she's she got to be a psychologist, she made her money on my time. I wouldn't see what that. She'd work during the day, she'd go to school at nights she can get her bachelor's, I mean her master's, to be a psychologist. So the years that I was growing up, I didn't really have a mother because she and she was work. She'd worked one weekend ever out of two. So she'd have basically two jobs and she went to school at night. So that lasted many years. I always, I always had this feeling that she made her money, unless she has everything, because she took it on my time. The time that I was I didn't have a father. When he wasn't around, she was around, but he was trying to support you, though. I told you my mom had three jobs's like you just said, it bright. She was trying to support me. Therefore, I'm here right now fucking support me. Keep doing...

...your job then, no, but now with maybe she will, but maybe she will, but wouldn't you love her to support you in a loving relationship? Yeah, of worst one. But, like I said, I mean Brian, I mean I'm forty nine now. We've always had this. It's always been toxic eye relationship and it's always been around money. You understand, for the last thirty years it's been around money because you want it and she doesn't want you to learn how to live like that, though. She will not see her mistakes. She didn't help me out. I mean, I needed something that my parents would buy for me, they would. So they didn't help me out really at all. You know, whatever I needed, whatever I had to be done, whatever trouble I got into. Well, I can't agree with that. They helped you out, but they also hindered you too. Well, yeah, like exactly. They helped me at that time, you know, for that moment, whenever I needed but he hindered me more in the long run. It was you know. So I don't know. It's hard to say. I mean I don't know if me and my mom were ever going to have a peaceful relationship. I don't know either. We we do, and then when when I'm in front of her, I mean I know I have to. I'll be honest with you. I'm fake. I'm fake the vast majority of talking around their help. I'm fake because really, I mean, if you'd say, give me one word to describe your mother, to describe meets. Also, my mom is anal. That's the one word that I could say was annal. You know, like I said, those rich people that complain that the fork is set crooked. She's one of those people and she said some comments about some people and some things that are so freaking embarrassing. Bryant's not even fucking funny one. I was in her golf well, it's it's a rich golf club. But before you say that, let's try to keep let's try to keep yeah, it's true. On the word respect for your mom, yeah, it's true. It's like did I've said so. I mean this is the worst thing about this culture nowadays, and you're not part of it. We're not part of it. This new culture that comes up looks back twenty years ago and says this person said something. You and I probably said some foolish things in our lifetime that we regret saying. So let's let's hold your mom at a respectable standard and say she's my mom, she did the best she could and let's try to. You know, I'm not trying to solve your relationship. I'm just saying your idea of money may have come from the way that she may be mishandled or she overcompensated. My mom would give me money anytime I ask. She wouldn't give me as much money, but she would give me money anytime I asked at the right situation. Did that help me know? Because I also had friends who were working way harder than I was and right now are making way better money than I am. and was some of that my mom's fault? Indirectly maybe, but it's my responsibility now to make up and do whatever it is I want to do. So the question is, what? What are you going to do? Not What? Not so much would she did. You may have come to some of your conclusions based on some of the reason things she has done. Those are your experiences. But what is now holding you back? She certainly isn't holding you back. She's kind of keeping you afloat in some ways, as she's keeping you and drive at least with that Nice Shiny truck. So what what is holding you back? Your Wife said go to the hospital. I think you would do a good order the you want to help people, you get yourself a job. The hospital keep you till you're seventy, though, wheeliet of there when you die. That's true. So, I mean it's a great joy. Went in the hospital with my mom. was there in the the whatever they call it, the when people are dying, the what's that unit called? Hallett Pelletti of care, hello, pialeontology. I spend most of my time talking to nurses, the the pastor guy, so the people who clean up there, and just seeing how they do in other patients, other patients, parents or relatives. I love the hospital, I love any of those types of things because those people are there to help you. And if you want to help people, go to a place like that and get a dollar and then you can give that to your wife and let her do with it whatever she want. You say, I don't need the money, I'm just here to help people, and she'll take your paycheck. So what's stopping you from doing that? Something like that right now? Right now it's just covid. Nineteen things. Don't say covid. Like I said earlier, you can, you can, you can work around that. You can work around that. Well, the thing is, that they mean. There's so much in the hospitals right now. Why are you afraid? And that's why you Eric you're come on, man, thats no, no, brother, man, pajamas and and say, listen, you're afraid of covid no, I'm not afraid of it. Whatever. I'm not afraid. I don't give a shit if I catch it, but if because to go work at go help others, and that I do go work, I bring it home and I give it to my wife or to my kids. Your kids aren't going to get it. Your Wife. Ask Your wife is do. This is what I would do.

Ask My wife. I'd say, honey, is it okay if I try to go get a job at a hospital or not, as an example, something like that, whatever job. You would say that you'd have a risk and if she says no, you keep doing what you're doing and if she's happy with that, then I would do it. But if she says no, honey, I think you could do it because actually a hospitals are probably pretty safe place to be. You say you're at the waiter, the the restaurant with the mass thing. They have pretty good masks at a hospital and gloves. I brigually. Some bright, I know, but to be like to me, or right now, if people would ask me, okay, did to go work and old and his seniors home or to go work in hospital? And that to me right now. The says it's not the money thing. It's like playing Russian roulette, but instead of having just one bullet in the gun, you have between three and five bullets and you play in Russian Roulette. That's to me, like that's what it is. You're going is going to lions then, and to me it's an unnecessary risk, like I said earlier, just for money. It's not. I'm not going to risk my family and that just for money. That's not worth it. There's other ways to make money, the other ways to live. I've done it for for nine years. Yes, my mom has helped me. Yes, I've, I've listen, I've given you know, I've given back my mother, peterback forty five granted my life so far. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before you toot your own horn, that means you spent forty five grand of your mom's money. It's that. It's that. The paid back right, hey, I paid forty five grand. Yeah, but you spent it. It's I mean, that's that's that's the thing, though, is is it really that much or I don't know. No, no, it did not. It's not about that, I don't think. I don't think the value of the money for your family is a big deal. I think maybe your mom is hoping from her mistakes that you learn some some valuable responsibilities, and I don't know. That's kind of getting off course and I think it would be nice if your mom saw this, if you had a heart to heart with your mom and not I'm an ass and Fu. What would you really want to close this part of it? What would you really want to have? Like, think of your as a kid. You must have hugged your mom or kissed your mom or just wish that you guys could walk hand in hand and go get an ice cream or something like that. Like, not Fu mom. There has to be something a little deeper under the egg shells you think. I think seriously, will be to great to just give my mom a big hug and lift her up, you know, and yess in say I love you mom and you know, not have these frigging worries anymore. But we're always going to have this problem as long. I said, I think that was a good thing for you to say and rather than jump off the bridge of it and say, well, I think we're going to have a problems, how about I would love to just maybe your mom's much smaller than you or something and you just want to pick her up and say I love you. How about you work with that? How about? There's my challenge, the Eric Challenge for today. It's like like yeah, go ahead, I'd like to give my mom like a big hug and say, mom, I like you to be my mom again and I'd like to be your son again. Let's have a normal relationship. Perfect, you know. I'd like to I'd like to tell us I'd like to have my mom back perfect seem that I had before I was ten years old, before all the major problems are started, perfect like you know. I'd like to get that back. I mean it's a long time and I think it's you know, and I tell this is you were psychologist. You know how to do this. You would get your clients in that talk about the problems he had with their parents. How come we can't do that with me? How can we can't do that together? But you did with everybody else. That's that's what I was saying. That the cobber thing there, the shoot and wrong food, because she did it perfectly with everybody else, which you can't do it with her own son. HMM. It's like the switch turned off when he when her work name was done, and then she became the same normal person, which gave us no relationship. And that's to me. That would be more important than money, than anything, would be have a relationship you my mother, even if from them, even if it's five minutes before she died. Just that, to me, that would be it would be everything. Yeah, I said, I've always said, it's it's about the family, not about money. Money is important, but families will always be important. and I wonder about this though. You keep saying the cobbler with the right I don't know that, but I think I know what you mean, like so the shoemaker made it and they put it on the wrong foot, or something along those lines. Is that? You say to her you were a doctor and you could help all these people, but to me it seems like you were looking at her as the doctor who is trying to fix you and not being your mom at the same time. And then you, you might have been going into that relationship saying I'm not one of your patients, I'm your son. So maybe going into the conversation with the attitude of that she's going to come at...

...it the wrong way and not the right way, even though you know so, even though she might have been the cobbler with the shoe on the wrong foot, you might have been the ass coming in, no, the dog coming in first with that, you know, with the wrong attitude, and then both of you are clashing. Well, see, I hear. I'll just give you one, like one small example here. How would you feel? I rememb horrible, no matter what you say, it would be horrible. I haven't nousy and horrible stories. I'll listen, but I'm sure it's bad and it put was. I mean I was twenty six, I wasn't I know. I was twenty twenty seven. I was in London, England. I was cool, owner of a bed and breakfast next to Victoria, next to Buckingham Palace. That's you know, I was pretty good man. I was making a lot of money and I was co owner manager of a hotel. And I got I was on the phone my mom and she says, yeah, well, so how you do it? Is, I'm doing okay, and I get a job. He said. Well, I all my friends here. You know, her son is a lawyer and her son is is is studying to be a doctor. And then they're asking you what your son doing, and what was your answer? He's just driving around, he's just all you, just floating around. No, no, I was a hotel manager in London, England, but no, no, he's just floating around. You see, because I didn't fall in that rich Man's category, doctor or whatever. I was a part and it's always been like that. I was always been compared to her rich friends and that did their kids and all. He's a lawyer, he's a doctor, and I'm me. Yeah, I have two children. I have two children and I know the temptation of comparing my children to other children, don't you? I know, I believe I know that. I know that as well. Right, that's what I mean. So it's not like it was the rich, that's just who she was hanging out with. Right with me? It's the Korean kids, you know, like the Korean kids of my kids, while are they smarter, and it's there's the temptation and the reality the boy, I mean, people mess up all the time, but the reality is she just wants the best for you. She didn't care what you were. He didn't care what you became. Meam but you were drifting, because you drift. It right and it wasn't. Maybe she meant it as a slight, maybe she didn't, but you weren't anything in particular, because you're still not that thing right. Those those guys established themselves as careers, which at the beginning of this you said you wish you had done, and she just wants the best for you. There's no doubt about it. My Mum would encourage me and say I just want that. You can do anything, you can do whatever you want, and I was. You know, I'm just kind of still drifting. I'm in Korea right or it's and in some ways I feel like I failed by not being fully established before my mom died, and I think that's unrealistic because I'm working and do you know what, maybe I'll change a job five times before I die. But I think you should look at the attitude that you bring into reconciliation and let her deal with hers and start off with mom. No, no, no, French words. No, no, curse words as well. Well, I know say and just mom. I went on Brian Va, why we work, and I realized I haven't been holding up my part of the bargain and I've fallen short. And Mom, all I want to do is to have a mother son relationship and let us try to put everything beside to the side. And will you forgive me, regardless of what she says, Mom, will you forgive me? That's true. Okay, that's true, but anyways, basically, anyways, yeah, main question of your show of Brian, Brian V, why we work? Yes, my answer to that is I think that we work because we have to. It's not something that we want to do. We do it because we have to. It's part of the game. You everybody wants to play in the game. Everybody? Well, no, no, I think you're proving and we both know not everyone wants to. Well, not. Is the thing is. It's not that everybody wants is everybody has to. See. That's the thing. I mean, like like this game, whether you want to play or not, we have no choice because really, when you think about it, Brian, is it really really that important? You think the human beings have put on this planet to work like this and to be away from your families for everything. That's just two part. That's a two part question. I would say yes to the first, second, to the know, no to the second. No, because I mean like things are done, because it's for all these little things that we have, like these computers in the laptops and forms and all the things that we don't really need, and they're being put ahead of the important things in life, like food. Like, Oh, how many people are dying in food in that okay, so I know these sort of talking points, but these to me, are there legitimate concerns and legitimate points, but in reality it gets away from the core issue. So one is our own know, our own family.

So don't worry about so much. I was told this, and I said this before, my brother in law was a little bit perturbed upset about people who, you know, do social media and do big political like federal posts, like Oh, this president or prime minister, because we're Canada, president is so bad because this and he is American. He's like, I don't know why people do this. Why don't those people spend less time saying these talking about these big problems and spend more time with the smaller issues, like in your local municipality, right in your local government, like something there. So he's just talking politics and I'm changing it to talk about work. So, yeah, there's problems with computers and cell phones and how many poor people there are and people that don't but do you know, all of those are legitimate concerns. But what about you, in your family, in your future? And you know what your question was? Well, would you think we were put on this Earth to work? And the second part was to to think about the mighty dollar is that was what it was, whatever was. The answer was no. But yes, I think we're put here to work because work is good. Whatever work you find, maybe different than the work that I find. The work that you find productive and satisfying, maybe different than the work that I find productive and satisfy. But what I appreciate is the work that you do and I could appreciate the work that your mum did, just the work, not the personality, the character. Separating those things and say, do you know what, at the end of the day, it is good to work and I'm going to teach my children that is good for them to work in whatever capacity that they're able to do and I'm going to teach that from a young age. And maybe you and I didn't get that right. Maybe we were hand at things, maybe you more than me, I don't know. Maybe I was given other opportunities that you didn't. You weren't given that maybe hindered me also in a different way. But either way we have to live now and still work is good. Work is a good thing and I want to paint the picture to say work is good and we all have different motivations to do it. You might your motivation might be like if you can't get over for giving your mom, I'm going to prove her wrong and I'm going to be you know, I'm going to be successful at this particular thing. Well, fine if that's your motivation, but you should find work in and of itself a good thing. In a good thing for you to be able to get up in the morning, whatever, work at nighttime and produce for your wife or your children and in twenty years say, do you know what? I did? Something good and it was there is a direct connection to society. I may not be a farmer who hands over a potato to and pay him me a carrot, but I worked in the hospital and I wield people who were getting surgery down the thing and those people who are going through tragic events where, whether it's something internal surgery or like a major operation or something like that. I'm helping in my society. And all of these electrical things and things that you're trying to refer to there, they're useful. They're useful things for us to do. So I understand what you're saying with the big but the small is we need these things. If we don't understand, if we don't need them, try try living without it. But even then, in the beginning you said I like money, you know, I like buying these things. I like a nice shiny truck, you like the telephone that you're on, you like the House that you're living in. Everybody likes money brought everybody likes money. But I think there's not. There's not one person I know, all right, there's not one person I know that if they didn't have to work, that would work. I mean, if I didn't have to work, I wouldn't work. I work because I have to, I have to to pay. I work. is you see, like my wife would works if she didn't have to sea. Anyways, I would work to that. You gotta beat there's sixty six percent right there. We got you beat. Well there. I mean like they like to me. To me, like life is important to me, like our time here short. If I didn't have to work and I could enjoy life and all that and had the money to keep me going in that why the hell would I work then, when there's more important things to me in my life, like my family, my kids and doing stuff with them. To me that's more important than than to bring tables at to people at a restaurant. I mean it's more important to me to be with my family, to be that because I'm here for such a short amount of time and when I'm going Wednesday, it's over. It's over. The work is still going to be here, but my family will not, but work will always be here. So to me it's more important. To family is much more important than money. I love money, of course, and love to have a whole bunch of it, like everybody else, of course, man, and for that the only reason, the only way for me to get that if I have to work, and I'll work. But, like I said, if I didn't have to work, I wouldn't. Your point is valid. I would rather do your point is well either. Important thing. I would help. I would help a lot of people if, if, I, if I, like I said, if I would help, I would go help, like in a soup kitchen or that's what I would do if I didn't have to work. But yeah, I work, not because...

I want to, because I have to. If I could be a firefighter, I would do it because I love that. To me, that would be an exciting job. Or construction. But other than that, any other job with its government or whatever. All I'm only doing it for the money. I'm only doing it for the man so I can give back the money to the man put the money back in the economy. That's it. I'm just going to be a good soldier like everybody else. I'm going to be a puppet like everybody else. So I will get my job. But other than that, to be as a person. For me, for what's important to me, it's not work. Work is not important to me, man, because work, if I'm in trouble when I'm seventy five years old, work is not going to help me. No, you're right, workers are going to help me. My family is going to help me. Well, you're right, and I totally agree that family is more important than money. But like even but then you said at the end, well, at the end, when I'm seventy five, who's going to help me? Family? Well, how are you? Family going to help you? Because they work? Right, right, I mean because they work, they can help me. They CANNA help me because they're coming physically to help me do something. You know, yeah, but now I think it. You can't. You can't separate work or the money that I may come to work. I know you can't separate because, listen, you need work to have the money to be able to do all these things in life. You have to work, unless you win Loto Max. You have to work. You have no choice. You know, everybody, or I agree the premise of what you're saying is it. It would be nice, as you said, in the office or office space, just to do nothing. But I think the majority of the people, a lot of people do that. But I think you wouldn't even do that. If you had the money or you're enough income, you would, I see, you would get bored after a while when I see do nothing. I wouldn't stay it on my couch and do nothing when I see do nothing. I wouldn't do like what is supposed by society. I'm supposed to be doing, is supposed to be doing. There's no I would do nothing. I would do what I want to do. What I want to do. It fine and simple. If I want to go help you, if I see like you know, like you know this old couple, they're they're having problems, they're moving stuff in their house, Hey, I'll go help them. I don't mind if it's thirty five degrees. It's the right thing to do. You know, and I'm not saying that, if I would need help, I would want somebody to come and help you, and I know most people would not. But it doesn't mean that that I'm not going to help people. So I'll help people as much as I can. Yeah, I don't disagree. I don't disagree with any of your points that you're making. Is it's just that what it is important to wark though. It is. Yeah, yeah, and I'm not. You asked my question and then answered it, so I understand the kind of the perspective you're coming from, that you're saying family is most important, and I don't think any no, I won't say that most people would agree with you right. Most people would agree that family is number one. You get other people who think money is number one, but usually they're they're they're either ignorant or they're just off balance for a little while. Or, as there when you said, when you're seventy five, they're slapped in the face. In reality, that says. Do you know what all of that was for? Not Right, it was all in vain, it was all meaningless. I was jogging today, I think I was jogging or in my car, and there was an older gentleman. I yeah, I must have been in my car and I was waiting at a light and there was a man, he must have been eighty five years old, and he was going as fast as he could, which was not very fast, walking with a cane. And I said to myself, I was jogging today, trying to keep myself fit, and this guy is walking like a turtle and he knows that all of life, of the things that he all the many things he had done and worried about in his life, was for no good reason. And I think that's where what you're saying makes most sense, that at the end of the day, what did I value. Most, not not necessarily, what I did each day, because we have to we have to sleep, we have to you know, we should work, you know, eat take care of ourself. We shouldn't. You know, what is your motivation to work? So if your motivation is to take care of pay for university for your kids, if that's what something you want, or to go on a vacation or to buy a new truck or a new house or something like that, then your motivation is intertwined with the work that you do, and that is perfectly fine. Right. If your mom, for instance, was working to help pay for you know, to buy you a house or buy you a car, and you can see all the time and it wasn't a struggle for you to get the money from your mom. It was like, my mom keeps giving it to me, she just won't stop, She just going to can give it to me, just like your dad that you speak highly of, but he wasn't around, but he gave me the money that you wanted. If your mom like directly gave it to you might be like, wow, my mom really work for me and but maybe she had things off kilter. But what...

...you're saying boiled down, is perfectly fine. Families should be first. Families should be you know, people should be for is maybe not even family, because someone may not have family, they could be all alone. But what they do is they go to soup kitchens or they go and help the poor, they go to do all these things. Those are wonderful things to do. But even people who work, if they're doing it for the right reason, then their motivation is right and what they do may not be for you and what you do maybe not be for them, but at the end of the day, I think work is intertwined with the things we do and we can't live without it. So again it comes back to you at fifty two thousand and twenty in two thousand and twenty one this year or next year, when's your birthday? Two Thousand and twenty one, April three. So I mean there's nothing wrong with being a waiter. Like I wouldn't even knock that. If you wanted to be a waiter until you're seventy, eighty years old, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It might get physically demanding, but there's nothing wrong with that. You might you dislike some of the things that you can't get a vacation because you don't get paid. That's just the nature of that job. But what, what? What can you do right? And and I'll leave you with that right like, what will you do? My suggestion would be to reconcile with your mom. Have a different view of the value of work that you can bring to it, because you are young, you're a strapping young man and you have a lot to offer whatever job that you do right. You have a lot and I think that the issue could be just your view on it right. What am I going to do? Because you had, you have sour grapes. You have a sour taste to work because you saw how it split up your family and how the end result was you not you being neglect it, you being left with a babysitter until you're fifteen, you not getting the things you want. It, which is really small in your view, but it was the only thing was either you get this little bit of money or what no one valued you. So you had a skewed, an offset view of work and now you've carried it. You said you've carried it all your life. You said it right from the beginning of the interview that you've had it your whole entire life. So my advice would be to reconcile with your mom, to reconcile your your view of work, because I think, and not saying what you should do, but what you could do if you really wanted to. And you look, you know, across the Living Room and look at your wife and see what she wants you to do, or look at your kids and how they would like to see papa doing a job that he likes, he enjoys, that he's secure at, because eventually, you we talked about doing it for our kids. We're going to do this. We play. We don't always maximize our time with our kids when we can. And guess what, my kids are ten and seven. They're going to be out of the house in less than ten years. And ten years and then what are you going to say in ten years? What's your excuse? You're going to be with your wife and then you're going to be like playing. No, if I don't know your phone regiment, but you're going to play on your phone or she's going to play on your phone, and then you look back and you're saying, Hey, I just told the world that I'm going to maximize my time with my family and not work. But really, we don't maximize our time with our family and we do what we really want to do. So what are you going to do? Think about that. I would like to talk to you again, Eric, and in maybe for your fifty birthday or in a month or two time, whenever, whenever is good for you, if you have some update on I'd like to hear some update on your mom and you can tell your mom. What's your MOM's name? First are Claire Utell, Claire, Claire Bonjou Claire, that I would like her and you to have a nice new, turned over leaf relationship, one built on forgiveness and a hope on the future, because there's there's little time left for anyway. We never know, both of us. We can your you know, we can get in a car accident tomorrow and life can be over, and so just don't let that slip away and try to separate your life, experience of work, the sourness of it, and look at the future with the the responsibilities you have, and see if if you can stop wavering around or floating around. Okay, well, anyway. So what do you think? What do you think about that? Are I can give me some advice or some some encouragement for people. What do you think we should do? Well, one, one you should work in something that makes you happy. That's for that's...

...for sure. You can't just settle for the first job because, believe me, I've been there and that's changing jobs all the time. And but I think it very important when, yes, get along with your parents, because they're here for short time and when they're gone, believe me, I mean the same thing. If I didn't reconcile it good with my mom, if she died morew I'd feel like crap. I'd get her money, but I'd still feel like should because, I said, it's like the booking closed, not at all, and there's nothing that I can do to close that book, because you need I need her in my presence to close the book. So I think that, yeah, while you still can, I mean like talk to the people that you love in that fix everything you can while you still have that chance, because once they're gone and once you're going to they're gone, it's that's it, that's it's done. So I think, yeah, relationships are very important with your family members and all that because, yeah, life is short. And do your question. A run and why we work. My answer to that we work because we have to, and I think that most people would not work if they didn't have to work. I think that most people would not, not all, but I think most would not if they didn't have to. Would you work if you didn't have to brine? If you were millionaire? Would you work? Yes and yes. And you know why? I think your wife said affirmative to she said yes. Is because that's her job, though. Right, and and I so I would if I would agree with you if you said that most people wouldn't choose the job that they have. They would prefer to do something else. Right, a dream, of a desire. You Play Guitar, maybe you would like to be a musician or you know, something different, or you know you'd like to be a hotel manager or something like that. People would like to do different jobs. I would say most people would like to do different jobs, but they're afraid to do it. They're afraid to try, they're afraid to jump out and reach out and do that sort of thing. But I believe, as you ask what religion is, that we've been put here to work. Right, Adam and Eve were put in the garden he said, till the ground. So there's work, but the problem is sin. The problem is sin, and in sin it makes her work hard. But even though it's hard, we still do it. Man, I love see. I don't love seeing anything more than like a man's hands who's been digging in Grease and fix in a car with the rent, you know, like that hard work, or like a wood chopper, you know, forgive my wood logger of sorts, or someone just doing some hard labor work, or a waiter right so on their feet, as you know, for a long periods of time, having to deal with certain types of people who you know, you have a lot of orders, it's a busy time, or it's not a busy time and you have no orders and you have no tips or you're getting laid off. It's all hard, but you know that we find some joy in those things. So I agree that not everyone would do particular jobs, but I disagree. I think I would certainly work doing something I love doing. This was it if it's a job you love. Like my mom, she didn't have to work, but she retired down. But if she didn't have to work, she would work anyways because she loved the psychologist. If I was a firefighter and I didn't have to work, I would still be a firefighter. Yeah, but most, most people on this planet work at a job. Just want to pay bills and stuff like that. So really, I mean if you didn't have to work, I get know for those who work in the government. Do you know any people that, when they were youngest is I want to work for the government? One, they want to be a clerk. Korean's well, okay. Well, in Canada then, do you know many comedians? I would say I want to work for the government? No, I want to work for the no. So I think that those are jobs. Like people are work in the art. Like my best friend, he makes some people do. Some people do government's pretty secure positions. He makes sixty seven thousand dollars a year the government and I'm if he didn't have to work, believe me, he would not work because that is not what he would he chose to do. He want to be like a social worker. Look what he's doing now. So most people, they want to be something and then the end up doing something else because we settle and you said, yeah, well, don't want change. But because if you've been in a job for five or ten years, where you've got vacation build up, you've got penching all that, and if you quit to get something else, you're starting from scratch again. That's what's scarcely scary. It absolutely it scared me a lot as well as I'm a wait a minute. I've done waiter for a long time and it pays very well in that. I'd love to get another job where I can have a pension in that, but I'm scared, man. I don't want to start from scratch again, you know, like you know, after so many years at a job you're making higher money as well. You start a new job, you're going to make less money. Yeah, so you have to meet New People. So I think it's more the fear. But yeah, I think I'll correct myself. If people, if people didn't have to work, but the work in the job that they always dreamed of, the most people would work. Yeah, I think that most people in the planet work in...

...a job, that it's just a job to pay for their bills, cars and it isn't that. And I think it when you just working in a job. I think if you didn't have to work, but it's and it's not your dream job. Most people then would not work. Absolutely I agree with that whole hardly. Yeah, like my like my wife, she's a special at teacher in school. She loves it with a passion and she didn't have to work, she would do it anyways. My mom was psychologist. Me, if I'm a waiter, I love being a waiter. If I didn't have to work, I wouldn't do it. But, like I said, if I was a firefighter, I would be a firefight on ninety nine if I could m because I love that. You can be a volunteer file firefighter. Couldn't yet they always take volunteer firefight. No, it's with my knee and my my compressed lower back, I can't and it doesn't. You know, they're the physical for the the CSST and they had the national enjurance here that started. A driver or would hook hooker or something like that, just to go get her just, you know, hold the dog or something in the Fire Department. I know the volunteer. I mean just as a volunteer to get that itch out of there, you know, clean the fire truck. You know, brother, I know I've thought about it and I know I'd like it all that, but I think that first I'd like to get my life put in order, get myself, you like a regular, you know, everything put in order for a jump that phase. I agree. Volt here anywhere. What? I don't even have a steady full time job right now. Yeah, because the rectant business is going out. So, yeah, whatever I need. You know, I need money. I need to survive. We need to pay for all these things, like the truck at all that. I have to pay for everything. So, I mean I need I have no choice. I need money. But yeah, if I didn't have to be a weirder, I wouldn't be one. If I was you, Eric, I can see you. I don't know why. Maybe it's something that you said, but whether it is seniors home right working, and I could, and I don't have any vision the special visions or anything, but just get your resume ready and throw it out there and in your free time you're not working twenty four hours a day, and and just go to some of these places and even if you have to start, I mean you said starting at the bottom or starting lower. You always start the bottom. What is better? Making the money you're making now, but in a couple of years it's stops or starting lower and then working for the next twenty years straight, lower over the next twenty years. I know that. I know that. But saything going to a senior's home. I can't do that. I mean, Brian, would you have it? Would you be able to change a senior citizens diaper? Christ and pub changing my own kids diapers? You originally mentioned the senior says I. So I thought that was kind of a thing. But what, I'd help it all that, but I mean like changing your diapers something that I mean, that's something that I can do. I can do anything else for them, but I mean, I cannot change your diapers and that's what you got to do in senior's home. I couldn't even do it for my own kids. Well, there's a lot there's lots of jobs in a hospital right. You could work in a cafeteria, you could work in laundry, you could work as I don't know if it's orderly whatever, but you could be transferring people from one place to another, not necessarily doing diapers. But just a hospital is a place that's never going anywhere. Restaurants are up and down right, but hospitals are not going anywhere. Just like the government's not going anywhere unless it gets right right now. Right I mean I'm doing on applications and that I'm going to apply like I'm going to apply many jobs at the hospital. I've thought about it already, because the hospitals are hiring right now because of this. Absolutely and there's people on the one side. Some people are saying, I don't, I can't do it now. But I'm trying to tell you or encourage you you can do it. If that's if that's something you want to do, you can do it. Eric, get off the phone with me and look at your resume and see how you can direct it towards a hospital. I mean hospitals are great. I just think they're great. And then start something like that, you know, and there's no I mean I think your wife would. I don't think she would say, oh no, Eric, you're going to get the corona. I don't think she's gonna say that. She's she's the wonning. But it's easy. I'm the one that minds about that, not for me getting in, like I said, but if well, listen you, you text message me something a little while ago, so I think you're you're a whole plan could be predicated on that and then every excuse that comes out of your mouth is actually based on that. So this is why I'm not following the the whole corona thing. So it could beat it. She's but I mean like there is a part of me that is, you know, if I get a job and that that's not a problem and if I get the coronaverruse, I don't give a shit about that because I mean, you know I'm more likely he is going to pass it. But if, because of my job, I get it and I transmit let's say, to my father, and my father dies because of it. But about the restaurant, how do you know what's the chances of you getting a not even chances, because you're going to say higher, but how do you know that you're not going to get the coronavirus at your job tonight, at the restaurant, at the guy who you serve to food from? There's you don't. They don't have it a hundred percent quarn team. So you're at...

...just as much risk there as you are as we notice. The thing is that the thing bright no where. That's a hospitals. Hospitals are there the hot beds for those things. Not Anywhere. It's a hospitals. The warning getting there's so many cases in hospitals, people that start working there. Yeah, more than half of them. They end up with the virus within a week because there is the hospitals are full of it. Not The restaurants, that the stores not there, because there's none. Basically, there's none around here, only in hospitals. Yeah, so, therefore, when you try me in my wife tell me, yeah, you should go then get a job there. Get it up now. I don't want to hear it, Eric. I don't want to hear anyone this. Like don't mind being a lamb. Like being a lamb and go sacrifice the lamb. Wolves. No, sacrifice the lamb. Go get a job in all and come on, come on, Rag taburn active. Isn't that what they say your French? Come on, yes, that text. I sense it has a lot to do with it as well. Does. Well, then, get it out. Just just go to work. I don't work here. Don't try that this up here. You're wearing green right now. You look like a guy that I would see going down the thing pushing the sea ur ECO. What are you? Go get that out of your system. That but a green share with a little chain. You're ready. You speak the French to the ladies that the English, and there you would be all right. You would have a great old time. and He Kavala, Espagnolan PUKITO. No, there you go. Well then, and he can speak a needle unders. I could speak Dutch as well. So there you go. Hold on two seconds. Whom? Wells are winning anniversary today? Oh, he's gonna go get a job with that. I forgot. Happy, happy, at wedding anniversary. His gift is coming in a Shallot to be ten in next month. Nice to meet you. There you go. There you go to next year. Two reasons. When the youngest one, she's seven. She's going a great too. She's gone camping with her friend for three days. Your kids are the same age as mine. Yeah, well, my she's going to be ten next month and amy's going to be eight in the November. So yeah, they're about the same. COASE enough. So Papa is going to go work in the hospital. They're going to love you and I've been married since two thousand and nine one year. Well, you got, you got, two thousand and seven, seven, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was two years after so, Eric, this has been great. I don't I think you beat a record. I have been speaking with you for two hours and twelve minutes. The first time I looked at the time. But I think we don't want to keep repeat. We don't want to repeat what we've said, and I think we've said a lot and you've said a lot and I truly appreciate this conversation. But I also want to challenge you to use this time to look for a job. I will do unless, unless, I don't get me wrong, unless you're satisfied with being waiter. But I think you're having difficulty just because it's it's they're not getting enough work stable. It's not stable job. So a hospital, I mean, or military or all this, but in. But if you can't get in any of those, you don't. A hospital is a great place. It's, you know, respectable job. I don't care what your mom says, if you didn't like it or not, it's a great place for someone to work. But we do. We care because we love our moms. And so reconcile with your mom and say, you know, start by you know today your wife is gone, your daughter's gone, you got other daughter's gone. Look for the job. Start today. As I said the guy that I just there's no reason why people should be stopped. It's not like all the world stopped. Don't watch the news, don't do any of that stuff, don't pay attention to any of those things unnecessarily, and get your gear, get that truck going, get yourself and in drive and and throw away anything that's hindering you because it's not going to do you any good. And if, at the very least, you put whatever is hindering you in the back seat or in the back of the truck or just put it off to the side and get yourself going and then, if you still need it, if you still want to whatever you ever do or need in life, then and then bring that with you as well. But in the meantime just pass it off and and work for your family. Right. It will do. There's no no other ways. I have this, this job situation. I want two percent. will go back on air, I mean you were. Then will talk about the new job. Did you hear me? I want my ten percent. Yeah, I know, ask Mrs Lee. I'll take five maybe before call you on and ask you if you can talk to Mrs Lee and actually, do you know what? She offered me a job in her new Hoguan after that. Really? Oh Yeah, she started another one, Mrs Lee, she was Nice. Oh yeah, I think she...

...was Nice, very nice. Listen, do you remember? Do you remember when I were for be careful when you ask me. Do I remember? No, I did a runner. You remember that? No, we don't remember that. We don't remember anything bad, Eric. We don't remember anything bad. All I remember what you all listen is. I remember doing that, doing a runner overnight. Nine months later, calling him again, they gave me an they give me a job, more money for two years, and it did a runner on them. MMM, Eric, fifty, forty nine, close to fifty, going to start looking for a job in a career, and you're going to do your Mama Proud. Exactly. You're going to do your Mama Proud, because your Mama did a lot for you. Yeah, I know, even though she failed you, just like my mom. But we fail our chick you can't tell me you don't fail your daughter. Hey, yeah, I do, we all do. We do so when we realize we're all in the same boat, we're not going to be trying to check one another off, because we're all on the same boat here and we're about in the same position, in the same shape. So go call your mom, go have a meeting with your mom, take some time to think about it, get a clear head about it and reconciliation, forgiveness and go start a new career. Why? Why not? Will do okay, are stay in touch at I'll keep your post on on. I updates. Eric. The day you get a new job, I want to talk to you again. We'll do maybe the day you start it. I not that they offer you the job, you just let the day, the day after, you say Thirsday, maybe a week after. I start of the job first. Okay, I have a tendency to get a job and leave within the week's Si. No more, no more. That was in your s. You are the first fifty years. You can say that, and now here after. This is like I've took things seriously. So, honestly, Eric, you think about it, you can be an encouragement to other people, other kids, other people know who are twenty, thirty, fifty, and say listen, I mean I can do that for most of my life too. Is a kids people doing. This doesn't work. And you know what I had to wake up to the reality that it didn't work, regardless of what. You know. What like a philosophical view of the world, and you know everything is bad and I'm so I'm just going to just hunker down and be stubborn about it. Rather than living like that, just live for your family, don't live against the world, because the world don't give to tur what is own. Front ails that I'm married, unmarried, right, they know Ra if you yeah, go ahead, friend, you would say Lemon Soa, allies, leaman, say CALLIS LEMON SOC collies. People don't give her shit. Like people don't get it's not coolies. They don't care. They don't care. I know people don't care. People don't care about you, Eric, sitting on Your Sofa. No one here listens, cares specifically. So you can be mad as you want to be mad and no one cares, because people are going to go get theirs. So why don't you say I'm not going to worry about them, I'm going to take care of mine. And you know what, in my day to day operations, I'm going to help that old lady across the street, I'm going to go help put out a fire or something over here and I'm going to do these things because that's what's important to me. And that puppy dog right there. You want to say hot. Right. So those things. So I want to I want some progress. So we I do care. I do care. I want to see progress. I want to see progress however you want to say it. Okay, well, I will keep you posted and your wife will hold you accountable in your children too. Yeah, and now I'm going to go see my wife, because we was our waiting anniversary and every yeah, that's teller. Tell her you left the present and in the new truck. No other that. The present is the truck. I just bought it for your early that's what I said. I told you that, sax. I'll try, but anyways. Yeah, so, Brian, let's say thanks for speaking to me, and I'll stay in touch, man, to let you know what's going on. You're going to let me know when you get a new job. Yeah, that's let you know. Yeah, what's going on in the active be act and anything else, don't get me wrong, anything else, but be active about it. No one's gonna come find you for a job. That doesn't happen. Ryan, will stay in touch because it's that was in Korea for three years. You're you're one of the people that I spend the least amount of time with, but you're the only person I still speak with from Korea, even though I still got friends over it. We don't speak has been years. You're the only one I still speak to. Well, Eric, I did like you then and I do like you now and I hope the next time we talk we have some news to share. Yeah, well, one day when we're not on are we can talk about that first night they're at kiss and kiss. That was fun, but that was fun. But anyways, yeah, we will will speak again, Ryan. Well, Blah, I'm sure. Eric. All right, mercy, have yourself a good day. Say hello to the family by, I will see by, see later. If no kissing kids.

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